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Title languages[edit]

should titles of Pratt's work be in Italian, French OR in both languages? User:wathiik

I'd say Italian, since the original works are in that language. User:Ror77

I'd say both since the French-speakers take better care of his legacy ;) —MURGH ^disc. 01:23, 3 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say it depends of the first publication. When Hugo was in argentina, most if not all the titles were in spanish, when he was in france, the titles were french... As a matter of fact, I don't know if a lot of titles were first published in italian. All the Corto Maltese were published in France first and translated in Italia years after. User:Parlook 00:23, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is ridiculous that the article says his paternal grandfather was english. Another one of those thousand of chauvinist anglosphere articles. Paternal family origin was France (not England). In fact his family had to escape from Cornwall back to France because they're catholics and England authorities persecuted them. How is possible the article says part of his family was english? No mention about his rich genealogy, maternal side were sephardites (Toledano family). To consign that rampant manipulation would've be better to say Pratt nationality is italian and nothing else.

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Replaced with one with rationale. Murgh ^disc. 23:28, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Is ridiculous that the article says his paternal grandfather was english. Another one of those thousand of chauvinist anglosphere articles. Paternal family origin was France (not England). In fact his family had to escape from Cornwall back to France because they're catholics and England authorities persecuted them. How is possible the article says part of his family was english? No mention about his rich genealogy, maternal side were sephardites (Toledano family). To consign that rampant manipulation would've be better to say Pratt nationality is italian and nothing else.

It should be mentionned that a lot of the things reported about the life of Hugo Pratt are merely author's legends. I don't mean it pejoratively, but Pratt was a storyteller. In his biography, he declares : "I have 13 differents ways to tell my life, and I don't know which one is true, I don't even know if one is truer than the other." (sorry for the bad translation).
He loved fables and legends and one of his favourite game during interviews was to mix truth and lies. He also loved to make people believe to the authenticity of his characters: he wrote a fake letter mentioning the "true" Corto Maltese for the preface of "ballad of the salted sea"; he constantly telled that he had met lieutenant Koinsky, the main character of "the scorpions of the desert", while this is a fictive character. And of course, some real historical characters appeared in his comics : Jack London, Gabriele d'Annunzio, Soukhé Bator, Ungern-Sternberg, Enver Pacha...
I own a magazine dedicated to Hugo Pratt, with interviews of about 20-30 differents people who knew him personally : friends, wife, authors, drawers, colleagues, publishers, and so on. What they say about Hugo Pratt is inter contradictory. For instance, about his Marrano Jew ancestors : one of his childhood friends say it's true (even if Hugo denied it thereafter) while his ex-wife Anne Frognier says it's pure invention. This is juste one example. Basically it's like they're not talking of the same person. Hugo Pratt was a man with different faces.
Some other thoughts. No pun intended but Hugo Pratt was a "huge" man on differents aspects :

Huge worker : he wrote and drawed a hundred of different comic-books, some of them are barely known nowadays. And to achieve his works, he used to do a lot of researches, in order to be as historically accurate as possible.
Huge traveller : he travelled in numerous country all along his life and could speak fluently in venetian, italian, spanish, english and french.
Huge reader : he owned about 20000 books. Books are a very important part of his life, he lived among them and a lot of different authors or books are mentionned in his works.
Huge seducer : it might sound a little bit trivial but it's also a part of the character. He loved women, he was an early bloomer and, according to him - and this part is probably true, had affairs with more than a hundred women even before the age of 18. But he was also a seducer for everyone who met him. I don't mean sexually, but he knew how to make people comfortable, he was described by some of his friends as a "snake charmer". He had also many many friends.

Last thing I'd like to tell about is the fact that Pratt is often credited for introducing the comic-book in the "adult" world. The comics were - and are still often nowadays; considered as juvenile art.
The comics of Pratt, especially the adventures of Corto Maltese, are full of historical background, culture and even philosophy or reflexion on life. For that matter, Corto did not get a tremendous success in the magazine for children "Pif-gadget". While "serious" authors like Umberto Eco have praised Corto Maltese. The expression "graphic novel" was coined for this comic.
It's just a few ideas... user:mzon,eo (talk) 20:40, 13 August 2011 (UTC))[reply]

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Early years: "was sent back to Italy" or "were"?[edit]

Was he returned to Italy alone, or together with his mother? (In the latter case, it should read "were".) I don't see any references in the paragraph that may throw light on that point. The Crab Who Played With The Sea (talk) 02:10, 4 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

French Wikipedia entry says "La mère et le fils sont rapatriés par la Croix-Rouge en 1943.", so both, but no citation either. Which to believe? The Crab Who Played With The Sea (talk) 02:17, 4 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]