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My Life, My Rules[edit]

Seeing as how this dvd has been confirmed on the WWE website, shouldn't we put something up about the dvd? It comes out in less that two weeks (from the time i write this) 75.187.106.251 (talk) 06:42, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

But the question is that is it really useful to contribute to the article?--Pookeo9 Talk If you need anything 23:59, 27 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think it should at least get a 1 sentence mention on the "Other Media" section, along with the other WWE DVD's he's been in. TJ Spyke 00:05, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, any DVD or autobiography with sources should be mentioned. DVDs are certainly helpful.--WillC 09:26, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from WrestlingProdigy, 26 May 2010[edit]

{{editsemiprotected}} I Just Wanna Write One Of His Other Names Itchweed


WrestlingProdigy (talk) 07:14, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Question: Do you have a reliable source for this name? {{Sonia|talk|simple}} 07:18, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. SpigotMap 12:20, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply] 


 According to the Jeff Hardy DVD My Life My Rules, He states the he is known as Itchweed because of his intenet sensation personality. He is also called the Rainbow-Haired Warrior. Thanks for reading this. Dezibailey (talk)DeziBailey 02/21/2011

Peroxwhy?gen[edit]

Should we have a seprate page for Peroxwhy?gen (Chrispowellathome (talk) 11:24, 15 June 2010 (UTC))[reply]

If you check the logs ([1]), you'll see that it has been deleted on several occasions for asserting/showing significant notability. I personally don't think there's sufficient notability to warrant an article. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 14:05, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from L1fel1ker, 12 July 2010[edit]

{{editsemiprotected}} I want to change Jeff Hardy's written weight, cause at the last TNA PPV (Victory Road, July 11), he has been announced as a 232lbs wrestler. Please change his weight from 215lbs to 232lbs. Ok, I have uploaded the cut video file from the pay-per-view. And yes, it was a live event. http://www.mediafire.com/?cjldzjfyniiwuly —Preceding unsigned comment added by L1fel1ker (talk • contribs) 22:47, 13 July 2010 (UTC) L1fel1ker (talk) 23:01, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Someone else will need to verify this. The citation templates {{cite episode}} or {{cite video}} appear appropriate for citing this source.  Davtra  (talk) 02:53, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It'll be difficult to verify this; L1fel1ker, was this a live event? Is there a recording we can look at to confirm the source? GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 18:55, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from THEKEVINBRAND, 7 August 2010[edit]

{{editsemiprotected}} On August 7, 2010 through The Hardy Show You Tube channel, Jeff announced that he and his longtime girlfriend Beth are expecting their first child together. Jeff said he wasn't going to provide the due date nor the sex of the baby. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S1svCRzJ6U&feature=player_embedded

THEKEVINBRAND (talk) 23:12, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Youtube may not be used as a source. --ANowlin: talk 01:06, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Since when? ⒺⓋⒾⓁⒼⓄⒽⒶⓃ② talk 15:20, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff and Beth, soon to be parents.[edit]

Jeff confirmed on youtube a couple days ago that he and his girlfriend beth are going to be parents.

Link to video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S1svCRzJ6U&feature=player_embedded —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bbr411 (talk • contribs) 08:08, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

im sorry but youtube can not be used as a source.--Steam Iron 08:24, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Since when? As far as I knew, if it was from a first party source and could be confirmed as being from that source (say, for example: An official Facebook page, or an official YouTube page), then it could be used. Also, according to this, YouTube can be used as a source... as long as common sense is exercised. I'll just point out WP:ELOFFICIAL as well, since we're on the subject. ⒺⓋⒾⓁⒼⓄⒽⒶⓃ② talk 15:14, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If you'll actually look at the article, you'll notice that this information has already been included with a reliable source. Thanks, ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 05:27, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Might I point out that said reliable source bases it's findings entirely upon said video linked above? I digress, however, as the point is moot, as also stated above. ⒺⓋⒾⓁⒼⓄⒽⒶⓃ② talk 15:18, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from 74.109.43.4, 23 August 2010[edit]

{{editsemiprotected}} I think if possible, You should update Jeff Hardy The Wrestler's Wiki photo, If I may give you a suggestion here is the photo I think will be more up beat to the Jeff Hardy Page

File:Live 0807.jpg

Thank you for reading.

74.109.43.4 (talk) 00:10, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Welcome. That photo does not appear to have been uploaded yet. Please upload the picture using the upload link in the toolbox on the left. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 01:02, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, that photo was deleted several days before the ip's request to add it to the article. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 04:59, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anti Christ of pro wrestling[edit]

Jeff hardy now claims he is the Anti Christ of pro wrestling it is now apart of his heel character. —Preceding unsigned comment added by The ripper11 (talk • contribs) 03:51, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from Bbremer283, 29 October 2010[edit]

{{edit semi-protected}} Please change The Antichrist to The Antichrist of Profesional Wrestling

Bbremer283 (talk) 21:50, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Thanks, Stickee (talk) 23:53, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Heel Turn[edit]

At Bound for Glory, Hardy turned heel with Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff and with their help defeated Angle and Anderson to win the TNA World Heavyweight Championship for the first time. They were then joined by Jeff Jarrett and Abyss, revealing the group that Abyss had been referring to as "they" for several months.[155] On the following edition of Impact! the stable was named Immortal, as it formed an alliance with Ric Flair's Fortune. Meanwhile, Hardy debuted a new dark character, using cryptic messages as he explained the reasons behind his turn.[156] At Turning Point Hardy retained his title in a defense against Matt Morgan, a replacement for Mr. Anderson, who was sidelined after suffering a concussion during an attack by Hardy.

Daughter's name[edit]

Is Jeff's twitter account a reliable source? If so his and Beth's daughter's name is Ruby Claire. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.167.171.116 (talk) 04:53, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Twitter cant be used as a reliable source--SteamIron 08:59, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's Jeff's official Twitter page. I think you can trust her own father with her name. 68.204.47.18 (talk) 12:51, 24 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Beth and Jeff's twitter have both confirmed that their daughter's name is Ruby. BETHBRITTBRAND @joemccormick Yep! We have a newborn daughter, Ruby. Have no idea who "Little Zach" is. We don't have any other children. Just Ruby & pups! JEFFHARDYBRAND : RubyClaire....LovinYaQueen of myHeart!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.59.60.108 (talk) 20:32, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff has married[edit]

You can watch source on his Facebook. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.175.202.220 (talk) 14:09, 24 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff Hardy has no Facebook accounts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.59.60.108 (talk) 20:34, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from 69.211.109.71, 18 February 2011[edit]

{{edit semi-protected}} Jeff Hardy's height is 6'1

69.211.109.71 (talk) 06:23, 18 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not done. His profile says he's 6'2". Do you have a different reference that says otherwise?

Edit request from Bradb008, 30 March 2011[edit]

It has been confirmed that TNA will not use Jeff Hardy untill his problems have been sorted out so Hardy will not be on Impact for at least 1 month

Bradb008 (talk) 00:43, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Also, please suggest some verbiage. Monty845 01:08, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from 173.81.252.170, 12 April 2011[edit]

ruby claire hardy wasn't born on october 28th it was october 19th i found a newspaper article online that announced her birth just thought u should know

173.81.252.170 (talk) 12:38, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: the October 28th date is sourced in the article. You would need to provide your source if you wish to change it. — Bility (talk) 15:46, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from Ihaveareallycoolname, 11 June 2011[edit]

--Ihaveareallycoolname (talk) 19:39, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

NICKNAMES the Greatest Of all time(oficially) Ihaveareallycoolname (talk) 19:39, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done Please read our neutral point of view policy for why this would not be an appropriate addition. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 19:44, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Request: Daughter's Birthdate[edit]

Her Birth date is not October 28..that is just when news sites found out about it. Her birthdate is October 19. it is in a video made by Jeff Hardy himself. Here is the link for a source : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwZC3yeGNjU&feature=feedu you will need to skip ahead to about 8:50 to get to the part where it says her birthdate.

Exist2inspire08 (talk) 05:27, 17 June 2011 (UTC) exist2inspire08 Also, it's says here http://www.thepilot.com/news/2010/dec/20/public-records-54/ on the date Oct. 19 her birthday and her parents names — Preceding unsigned comment added by BreathlessSunset (talk • contribs) 01:05, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from 92.3.191.163, 14 July 2011[edit]

Please delete the link referring to Jeff Hardy's 'Retirement (2010–present)' and subsequently, the statement claiming that 'On July 7th, hardy posted on his facebook page that his contract with TNA had expired. His final match will be against Rob Van Dam'

Jeff Hardy does not use nor even own a Facebook account, which is reinforced by his official twitter page; http://twitter.com/#!/JEFFHARDYBRAND

The information is unreliable and incredibly misleading. It may be beneficial to add that there has been talk of his retirement due to career ending back surgery but nothing has been confirmed. This can be seen on Matt Hardy's youtube entry, http://www.youtube.com/user/MATTHARDYBRAND#p/u/26/6j_dpvbQyQU

92.3.191.163 (talk) 00:28, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done Jnorton7558 (talk) 00:52, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from , 23 October 2011[edit]

{{edit semi-protected}}


86.160.199.159 (talk) 15:39, 23 October 2011 (UTC) http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tumblr_lc4yy7clvd1qcveqbo1_500.jpg as profile picture[reply]

That image has been deleted as a copyright violation. See Wikipedia:Finding images tutorial.  Chzz  ►  06:38, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done

Jeff Hardy 2.jpg[edit]

The File Jeff Hardy 2.jpg is inserted twice in the article. Greets, --Martin1978 (talk) 12:11, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]


undertaker[edit]

i think it should be mentioned that hardy defeated undertaker in 2008. vickie was feuding with undertaker and hardy requested an extreme rules match with undertaker, which he won after a chair shot and leg drop from the top of a ladder. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.188.41.78 (talk) 20:00, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Edit Request: Signature Moves[edit]

The list simply has "mule kick" listed, but I think it should be edited to "mule kick enziguri" since that's the variation he uses in every match. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.167.71.212 (talk) 18:45, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff Hardy 1 his carrer 2010\2011\2012\2013[edit]

JEFF HARDY 2013 (1) The Charusmatic Enigma Jeff Hardy Has been a great learner in his early age in TNA Jeff Hardy has won many matches like these Jeff Hardy's first Pay-Per View was at Lock Down 2010 in the Leathal Lock Down match at Lock Down 2010 he was on team Hogan vs team Flair but team Flair won when it was Jeff Hardy's turn to come out to the cage Sting attacked Jeff backstage so after team Flair already won the match Jeff Hardy came out to the the ring and Hit James Storm and Bobby Roode Beer Money Corporated with a kendo stick then Jeff Climed the steel cage where there are weapons on top of the steel cage then Jeff hit Beer Money with a Steel Bin lid on there backs then Beer Money fought back then Beer Money set a table up on the top of the steel cage then when James Storm was just about to hit Jeff with the kendo stick Jeff fought back the Jeff hit Bobby Roode onece and James Storm twice before Bobby tried to stop Jeff but insted Jeff gave Roode a Twist Of Fate insted then Jeff put James Storm on the table while Roode was still down thenHardy was setting up a ladder and jumped off the ladder on to the table that James Storm was on that was set up on top of the steel cage. Genesis 2013 Jeff Hardy vs Austin Aries vs Bobby Roode for the TNA World HeavyWeight Cahmionship elimination triple threat then Bobby Roode and Austin Aries double team on Jeff Hardy then Jeff starts to fight back to both men then Jeff goes for the cover 12 then Austin Breaks the pinfall up while he can then Booby and Aries team up on Jeff again and Jeff fights back to both me Jeff goes for Twist Of Fate but Roode back fires it and goes for the cover 12 Hardy kicks out then Roode starts to punch into Hardy Roode goes for the cover again 12 Jeff kicks out again Aries still outside the ring still Roode starts to get pissed off Roode's punching Jeff in the connerHardy fought back at Roode and hop's up on the top rope and Jeff did not notice Aries on the edge of the ring then Aries went for the cover on Hardy 1 then Aries jumps out to the edge of the ring and jumped over the ropes on to Hardy and went for the cover again 12 Jeff kicks out then Aries goes for the cover again 12 Hardy kicks out again then Austin put Jeff in the conner and punches him twice then he throws him down in the middle of the ring then Aries jumped off the top rope and pushed his elbow as hard as he could into Jeff Hardy's back then Aries trys to cover Hardy again 12 Jeff Hardy stays alive by kicking out of the cover that Aries had went for Austin Aries starts to get crapie with Jeff Hardy then the crowd starts to cheer Hardy! Hardy! Hardy! Hardy! Hardy! next Aries grabes Hardy by the hair and picks Hardy up with his hair the Hardy get's back in it and starts to punch Austin in the torso then Hardy puts Austin in the conner the while Austin's in the conner Jeff is kicking him in the ribs then Aries throws Hardy into a conner and tries to do a diving attack on hardy while he's in the connor but it back fired cause when Aries was nearly there Hardy moved and Aries hit his face on the turn buckle then while Aries in another conner Jeff hops up and starts to hit Aries on the top of his forehead 10 times when hardy turns around Roode is just about to punch him in the face but insted Hardy punches Roode in the face then Jeff use's Booby as a stack like the Hardy brothers use to do and Aries is still in the conner then Hardy runs jumps off Roode on to Aries then Jeff puts Roode and Aries lined up for the Swanton Bomb then Jeff climbs the to the top rope Roode gets up and hits Jeff and Jeff falls on the that turn buckle that would have hurt and Aries crawl's away then Jeff falls off the top rope then Roode walks over to Hardy and kicks Hardy in the torso then Aries walks to the rope and use puts his foot on Jeff's neck to try chock him he has to the count of five to let go of the ropes then Bobby put Jeff in the conner and held the ropes and pushed his foot up against Hardy's neck then Aries does the same thing as Roode then they pick Hardy up then throw him to the another rope and then they hit him Roode goes for the pin 12 kickout then Austin goes for the pin 12 kickout by Hardy then they pick him up and put Jeff on the top ropes then they punch him 3 times each then Aries goes do suplex Hardy but Bobby grabs he's tights then Roode does a suplex on Hardy then Roode goes for a pin 12 Jeff kicksout then when Aries picks Hardy up by the hair Hardy starts to punch Austin then Roode hit Jeff Hardy 123 Roode's eliminated 123 Austin Aries is eliminated. Winner:Still TNA World HeavyWeigtht Champion Jeff Hardy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.176.98.61 (talk) 07:38, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply] 

                                                                                                  Jeff hardy wwe curir was ended by the one they call cm punk  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:5B0:2AFF:1EF0:0:0:0:33 (talk) 18:50, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 5 January 2014[edit]

Please add the recent history of Hardy's career. Like him quiting TNA. Please! The ENIGMA Fighter (talk) 22:59, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done Wikipedia is not a newspaper or a fan forum and is not the place to post or discuss the latest rumours. If Jeff Hardy really does quit TNA then I'm sure reliable sources will present themselves and we can update the article. Until then, no. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹Speak 23:19, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Jeff Hardy is still with TNA. It's pretty obvious that he's "The Willow", and I'm sure the Wikipedia wrestling nerds will make the update once a "reliable source" presents this information. --50.20.85.75 (talk) 15:56, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Why is "No More Words" by Endeverafter (which is easily Jeff Hardy's most popular theme song) not in the Entrance Themes list? A.roy20 (talk) 06:28, 10 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 8 September 2014[edit]

The explanation for the debacle at Victory Road with Sting needs to be much better-explained to include the facts that Jeff Hardy admitted being too intoxicated by drugs to compete, that various sources in the company - including Sting - stated they knew hours before the match that Hardy was too intoxicated to perform; he had to be carried from his trailer and held up in the "gorilla" position and it took him an unusually long time to come out during his entrance theme. It should also be stated that TNA offered refunds and free access to content as a result of how angry and upset fans were, as this was a main event match for a title at a PPV that people paid $30 to watch. Sting also broke kayfabe after Eric Bischoff ran into the ring and spoke to him. It took Sting 6 seconds to pin Hardy; Hardy can be seen trying to kick out of the pin but is restrained by Sting in order to end the match. Fans were chanting "bullshit! bullshit!" and Sting can clearly be heard agreeing with them as he exits the area. This horribly incomplete blurb should also include the fact that this is widely considered one of the worst matches of all time and that it resulted in TNA losing mass viewership. Many fans have stated that they never watched TNA again. 2601:7:8B80:111:1064:1184:80A2:E6CE (talk) 06:40, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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New daughter[edit]

Jeff had a new daughter born on Dec. 31st and I put it on the page, but I can't figure out how to get my citation on there. Can anyone do that for me?

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Semi-protected edit request on 20 April 2017[edit]

Replace the "** Reverse Twist of Fate (Inverted facelock neckbreaker slam)[1] – rarely used"" line. If Hardy is the only (active) wrestler to use it, as he is to the best of my knowledge, then it's still a signature move, even if it IS seldomly used. 85.229.51.18 (talk) 20:46, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. JTP (talk • contribs) 02:32, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

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Semi-protected edit request on 13 July 2017[edit]

{{Infobox professional wrestler Azmirfejzic18 (talk) 01:31, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: It's not clear what you wanted changed. —C.Fred (talk) 01:40, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 23 July 2017[edit]

{{subst:trim|

Jeff Hardy
Hardy as Raw Tag Team Champion in May 2017

Azmir35 (talk) 03:16, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 03:30, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 23 September 2017[edit]

Championships and accomplishments

He is the former Wrestling Superstar tag team champion, not current. Please edit. 27.2.128.89 (talk) 04:00, 23 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 04:06, 23 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 21 October 2017[edit]

Championships and accomplishments: Jeff Hardy is a former Wrestling Superstar Tag Team Champion, not current. Please edit it. 27.2.128.185 (talk) 09:50, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done JTP (talk • contribs) 15:18, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff Hardy recently arrested for DUI in 2018[edit]

Please add that, I have three sources but there are many more: http://whatculture.com/wwe/jeff-hardy-arrested-for-dui 

http://www.tmz.com/2018/03/12/jeff-hardy-arrested-dwi-crash-car/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alfredkonuwa/2018/03/12/jeff-hardy-arrested-for-dwi-ahead-of-possible-wrestlemania-34-return/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joeptchjijihhtgghbyjhhmkkkl (talk • contribs) 15:50, 12 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Height[edit]

His height is not correct. It says he is 1.91 but he is 1.86 Chunlipalace1 (talk) 22:05, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Done. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:28, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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"widely regarded as one of the greatest professional wrestlers in professional wrestling history"[edit]

I think this should be removed, as it's clearly not true. If one were to comb through books and the internet to synthesize the various "greatest of all time" lists, there would be only a handful of names that recurred frequently enough to qualify uncontroversially (Flair, Austin, Michaels, etc). Hardy might appear on a list or two, but certainly not enough to say he's "widely regarded" as one of the greatest.

Of the 5 citations listed, two are meaningless promotional copy from TNA and WWE (neither of which claim Hardy as an all-time great), one is simply a list of titles won, one is a low quality listicle, and one is an unsigned article, from a website of no particular repute, about Hardy's recent release. This last one does indeed say "widely considered one of the greatest professional wrestlers of all-time" but offers no citation or evidence for its claim.

If Jeff Hardy can be considered to be "widely regarded as one of the greatest professional wrestlers in professional wrestling history" based on the above, then I should be able to submit an edit suggesting that Hardy is a unicorn based on links to a couple of blog posts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.158.44.2 (talk) 04:44, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've reverted the edits adding this in, as the sources did not support the claim.RF23 (talk) 10:57, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I've removed this previously but another user edit warred to keep it in. Several sources have been added that supposedly support this claim but they don't even say it... some of these sources aren't even reliable in the first place. One source, talkSPORT, does say that he is " widely considered one of the greatest professional wrestlers of all-time". I have no idea how reliable this source is but I think we do need multiple sources to back up this claim or we need to attribute it to them. Ultimately, I think it would be better to remove this entirely.LM2000 (talk) 11:44, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I've added attribution to Talksport, since they're the sole source that actually says this. Also pinging involved users: Elcids23, SVTCobra, Chami46 and Rizhbergs.LM2000 (talk) 12:12, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
On second thought, this was added and maintained by some pretty blatant sockpuppets (Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rizhbergs). If the investigation concludes that's the case, these additions should be blanked without further discussion.LM2000 (talk) 13:37, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think the version quoting Talksport is still acceptable regardless of the sock puppet investigation.  oncamera  (talk page) 13:41, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment: My involvement is pretty simple. A novice editor, who had gained attention by making questionable edits on a multitude of pages, removed a significant paragraph which cited multiple sources and had been part of this article for a significant amount of time. I saw the topic had already been raised here. I undid the edit and in the edit summary suggested to weigh in on the talk page and get consensus. I did not look much deeper into it. The user responded, however, on my talk page. I again referred them to this talk page as it is outside my normal purview. Feel free to check out the interaction at User talk:SVTCobra#Jeff Hardy. The alternate source we mention is this. --SVTCobra 14:21, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Simply I'm a free agent, edits everywhere not only in particular page saw that something missing I added besides what given in sources and what I founded...not engaged in any editing war and if you think that this sources is not reliable you may remove this and swear I will never come here to edit this so check the sources and reference and then take the decision. I kept interest everywhere and edits everywhere not only in one particular field..before taking any decision just check out the provided sources don't take it personally I'm neither a scammer nor I'm interested in spreading rumours...Now you make take decision. LM2000 (talk) Elcids23 this one is my account which I used a months ago for another purpose not for this purpose...My intention is not to spread wrong information i edits with respect to sources...and swear not to violate any rules...I'm personally very sorry for that LM2000 (talk) never will do this mistake Rizhbergs (talk) 26 December 2021 (UTC)

 Comment: Also, take a look on the Hardy Boys "widely regarded as one of the greatest tag teams in professional wrestling history" with just one WWE source. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 16:36, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

So, obviously the current version is an improvement. I still thing the sentence should be removed for a few reasons. Per WP:LEAD, everything in the lede should be reflected in the rest of the article somewhere. Not only is he not referred to as "widely regarded as one of the greatest professional wrestlers in professional wrestling history" anywhere else in the article, but he doesn't even have a Legacy section. Then there's the source. Again, I don't know if talkSPORT counts as WP:RS or not. Even assuming that it is, I have the same problems with it that 141.158.44.2 pointed out above. The article is about him losing his job at WWE. While it makes a passing mention that he is "widely regarded as one of the greatest professional wrestlers in professional wrestling history", it doesn't explain why and doesn't discuss his legacy at all. Compare this to Ric Flair, who has multiple citations in that lede, or Lou Thesz, who has a six paragraph Legacy section. I think that we give this source WP:UNDUE weight and essentially push a WP:FRINGE idea.LM2000 (talk) 08:33, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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