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Terrible general[edit]

In reality Zhukov was a terrible general who lied about his role in World War II, and only won because of Lend Lease from the West. In any democracy he would have been fired for deliberately sacrificing so many of his own troops. (2A00:23C4:6384:600:3C90:B6A8:3E9A:4A23 (talk) 11:36, 15 August 2017 (UTC))[reply]

Really? Where on earth did you heard that? I myself come from that Soviet Union thing, and heard nothing of this kind. Maybe I am not as westernized as you are? As for the second sentence of yours, maybe. But, keep in mind if he would have come to power in the US under Truman (and some people after him wanted to come (but non did)) he would have been no better then Augusto Pinochet.--Biografer (talk) 03:10, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There has been a widespread reassessment of Zhukov's supposedly great leadership since the end of the Cold War. He was undeniably a war criminal who caused the deaths of millions of Red Army soldiers. (Defence1 (talk) 13:02, 17 March 2019 (UTC))[reply]

Maybe you should continu your sourceless bickering on Twitter. --Nickdenuijl (talk) 11:48, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Standard English usage[edit]

I propose the adoption of UK English as the prefered usage in this article. Can we get a consensus? Any comments? Roger 8 Roger (talk) 18:36, 7 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I would say no to it. Rewording every sentence in the article is rather time consuming and obscure.--Biografer (talk) 04:37, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The greatest Russian military mind?[edit]

I have reverted adding the following sentence to the lead:

He is considered one of Russia's all-time greatest military minds. ^[1]

^ "10 great russian military minds".

Firstly I do not think the site Russia Beyond that between "seven tastiest Russian soups" and "ten Russian rivers flowing in tunnels" have the list "!0 great Russian military leaders" is authoritative enough to make such statements. The second there are a lot of criticism of Zhukov's performance as a military leader: as the chief of the general staff in 1940-1941 he is responsible for the military catastrophe of 1941, almost all his operations during the World War 2 were excessive in military losses, etc. Still many people hold him in high regard. Any thoughts? Alex Bakharev (talk) 05:44, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I do not think this website should be used for such statements. Mellk (talk) 04:26, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Soviet russia 🇷🇺[edit]

You and me are the best thing ever 2601:CB:80:810:254C:C057:28BB:4AA8 (talk) 00:32, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Typo among quotation marks[edit]

“On 10 June 1941, Zhukov sent a message to the Military Council of the Kiev Special Military District, after someone, most likely the commander of the Kiev district, Mikhail Kirponos, had ordered troops on the border to occupy forward positions. Zhukov ordered: "Such action could provoke the Germans into armed confrontation fraught with all sorts of consequences. Revoke this order immediately and report who, specifically, gave such an unauthorised order." On 11 June, he sent a telegram saying that his immediate superior, Timoshenko, had ordered that they were to report back by 16 June confirming that the troops had been withdrawn from their forward positions." According to the historian David E. Murphy, "the action by Timoshenko and Zhukov must have been initiated at the request of Stalin."”

This passage contains an odd number of quotation marks; the one following "positions" is either an accident or, just possibly, requires a counterpart earlier in the sentence. Harfarhs (talk) 17:46, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Pre-war military exercises" is hard to understand[edit]

The section titled "Pre-war military exercises" is hard to understand. There may be some Eastern confused with Western or some Red with Blue, but as it is written at this moment it is not clear. Nickdenuijl (talk) 11:52, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "10 great russian military minds".

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