Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Islam

RfC on using the crescent and star symbol or Allah calligraphy

According to the discussion above:

1. Should we have a unified symbol for Islam that is used on all relevant pages/templates across Wikipedia or at least in content spaces (e.g., articles and portals, templates that are used in articles)?
2. If so, should that unified symbol be the Star and crescent symbol, or should it be the Allah word in Arabic script?

☆SuperNinja2☆ 16:29, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

• I don't think it's necessary to have a unified symbol in articles. It's acceptable but IMO unimportant. I think it is inappropriate to force conformity throughout the non-content spaces (e.g., talk pages, WikiProject pages, essays, userboxes, etc.) WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:41, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

  The Allah word calligraphy is already the only icon used in content spaces, it's like the "de facto unified icon for Islam in content spaces of Wikipedia". Here I suggest replacing it with the crescent and star symbol. ☆SuperNinja2☆ 02:45, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

• Yes to 1. with the understanding that wherever the calligraphy icon is used by default as a unified symbol of Islam, it would be replaced by a star and crescent icon. Yes to 2 per my reasoning in the previous section. City of Silver 19:14, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
• Comment: I agree with User:WhatamIdoing that there's no need for a unified symbol. If we need to choose one, I think the star and crescent is more widely recognizable as a symbol of Islam. At least it's more widely recognizable for non-Muslim, non-Arabic-speaking readers. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 23:02, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
• Comment: (Summoned by bot) I agree with WhatamIdoing and Mx. Granger - there's no need for a unified symbol. Both are broadly recognisable though star and crescent is probably more used by non-Arabic-speakers.Pincrete (talk) 04:13, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Isaac

Isaac has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Spinixster (chat!) 10:03, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Proposal for a Ramadan edit-a-thon on Islam-related articles

@JorgeLaArdilla, QalasQalas, Idell, TheAafi, TheEagle107, Captain Assassin!, Wiki id2, Sa.vakilian, Ed Poor, Alarob, Imagine Wizard, Masum Ibn Musa, Resnjari, Ahendra, and Super ninja2:@Cplakidas, Chongkian, Ratekreel, Ulubatli Hasan, Melofors, Hamza Ali Shah, MartinPoulter, GoldenBootWizard276, AvDahan, Ammarpad, Farhoudk, Svest~enwiki, Zereshk, LatinoMuslim, SFGiants, Chaos, Sulaimandaud, Zakksez, Absar, Darz kkg, Euryalus, AA, Leroy65X, Doc sameer, Peter Deer, Nafsadh, Razimantv Alt, Nasiryounus, Nawabmalhi, Masssly, Samee, MezzoMezzo, Arteyu, Owais Khursheed, Em-mustapha, Naila Khan, City of Silver, Johnbod, and Coalcity58: Can we arrange a Ramadan editathon to edit create, elaborate, correct, and translate Islamic articles? Arabic wikipedia is arranging it for 3 years 1, 2 and Bengali wikipedia for 5 years. So why not the English wikipedia? 202.134.9.145 (talk) 17:54, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

An WP:RFC is not a good format for this. It last for 30 days, at which point Ramadan will be over. Initiatives like this typically happen when at least one person does the work of starting and coordinating such event. If you would like to see an edit-a-thon (an online edit-a-thon, I presume), a better approach would be to articulate the kind of event you would like to help run and see if there's interest from others. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 20:59, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

Sexuality in Islam

@Ahendra, Sa.vakilian, Peaceray, Bduke, Steelpillow, Gog the Mild, 4meter4, GELongstreet, Utfor, Invasive Spices, Rytyho usa, Faendalimas, StarTrekker, Vanisaac, and Emir of Wikipedia:@JorgeLaArdilla, QalasQalas, Idell, TheAafi, TheEagle107, Captain Assassin!, Wiki id2, Sa.vakilian, Ed Poor, Alarob, Imagine Wizard, Masum Ibn Musa, Resnjari, Ahendra, and Super ninja2:@Cplakidas, Chongkian, Ratekreel, Ulubatli Hasan, Melofors, Hamza Ali Shah, MartinPoulter, GoldenBootWizard276, AvDahan, Ammarpad, Farhoudk, Svest~enwiki, Zereshk, LatinoMuslim, SFGiants, Chaos, Sulaimandaud, Zakksez, Absar, Darz kkg, Euryalus, AA, Leroy65X, Doc sameer, Peter Deer, Nafsadh, Razimantv Alt, Nasiryounus, Nawabmalhi, Masssly, Samee, MezzoMezzo, Arteyu, Owais Khursheed, Em-mustapha, Naila Khan, City of Silver, Johnbod, and Coalcity58: Please look over the last discussions about anti-Salafi edits in Talk:Sexuality in Islam. 202.134.9.145 (talk) 18:58, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

(Summoned by bot) This, too, is not a good RfC. RfCs should have clear questions that make it realistic for uninvolved parties to opine. Saying "look at [multiple long] discussions elsewhere" isn't helpful. You could just post a pointer to that page here, though, without the RfC. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 21:12, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

Featured Article review for Empire of the Sultans

An article in the scope of this Wikiproject is currently up for Featured Article review. Input is welcomed to decide if this article is worthy of the FA rating. MartinPoulter (talk) 19:25, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Dispute over content on belief in Jinn in Islam

Briefly, the dispute described here is
1) whether this statement should be allowed in the lede

Many Muslim scholars, believe that belief in Jinn is essential to the Islamic faith, since jinn are mentioned in the Quran.

2) whether revivalist preacher Abul A'la Maududi should be included along with two other scholars listed who support this position (i.e. belief in Jinn is a necessary part of Islam).
3) and whether as evidence of the significance of this belief, a brief description of the troubles of Nasr Abu Zayd "who was threated with death for apostasy" in the 1990s "(in part) because he didn't believe in jinn", should be included in the article. --Louis P. Boog (talk) 18:14, 20 March 2024 (UTC) Louis P. Boog (talk) 18:14, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

References

Please help improve Muslim World Article

User Manticore had repeatedly deleted sentences about Muslim growth projection in the past and in the futures based on Pew Research estimation. He obviously using different reason. Firstly he claimed it was of topic, then he claimed it was poorly written (it could targetted Non English speaker contributors) and he also claimed it was crystal ball which denied in wikipedia (but Pew Research estimation based on science not crystal ball and many wiki articles used it as sources). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.140.166.103 (talk) 13:11, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Crusading movement

Crusading movement has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Borsoka (talk) 11:28, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:2024 Iranian Strikes in Israel#Requested move 13 April 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:2024 Iranian Strikes in Israel#Requested move 13 April 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk) 21:31, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:2024 Iranian strikes in Israel#Requested move 14 April 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:2024 Iranian strikes in Israel#Requested move 14 April 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk) 19:34, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Religion at the Fringe Theories Noticeboard

There is currently a discussion concerning the question of religion and whether or not it is an appropriate subject for the Fringe Theories Noticeboard. Experienced editors are encouraged to join the conversation. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:51, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Biblical and Quranic narratives#Requested move 7 April 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Biblical and Quranic narratives#Requested move 7 April 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ❯❯❯ Raydann^(Talk) 17:26, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Input request

Couple of week back @Louis P. Boog had made brief input request on this discussion board but may be users missed during busy schedules last some weeks.

As a discussion facilitator I feel more inputs at Talk:Jinn would be helpful in the on going WP:Due discussions. Pl. do not give inputs here but at Talk:Jinn only.

Bookku (talk) 02:16, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Empire of the Sultans still seeking reviewers

Since I posted the above notice about the Featured Article Candidacy of Empire of the Sultans, there has been more interest and the review process has progressed further, which I'm very grateful for. We still need more reviewers to take part, following the instructions at Wikipedia:FACSUPPORTOPPOSE. A great deal of work has gone into both the article and the review; this is a chance to make a community decision on the results. Thanks in advance for any help! MartinPoulter (talk) 13:22, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Help needed at Abu Lu'lu'a Firuz, re addition of Persian name and concerns of circular sourcing

Your input would be appreciated at Talk:Abu Lu'lu'a Firuz#Sources for the name Piruz Nahavandi. Summaries of the dispute and discussion thread may be found here. Thanks! ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 15:20, 2 May 2024 (UTC)