Talk:Royal warrant of appointment

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Relevancy[edit]

I am not sure the link to the Imperial Mark Commission's website should be there. It is not relevant to the topic. User:DavidFarmbrough 08:12 (BST) 19 May 2005

Is this statement correct[edit]

Underneath the coat of arms will usually appear the phrase "By Appointment to..." followed by the title and name of the supplier, and then what goods are provided.

I think this is wrong. It should say "By Appointment to.... the customer " ( that is, the queen, prince, etc, not the supplier) Eregli bob 12:30, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cigarettes[edit]

Someone down the pub (woo, stereotypical shaggy dog story intro) tried to convince me that the royal warrants were taken off all cigarette providers recently. Now, I seem to remember Benson & Hedges and Rothmans having warrant marks at some stage or another. But a look at the Royal Warrant Holders Association page shows neither Gallaher/Philip Morris (joint owners of B&H) in the listings, for instance.

Is this true, or were they warrants issued by now-deceased members of the royal family, or have otherwise lapsed 'naturally' rather than being stripped? Or were the fag makers just putting shiny logos on boxes.... --Kiand 23:42, 14 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Quick usenet search found a message saying Gallaher lost their warrant from the Queen in August 1999. Did she give up or something :p . Any other info could be useful, if they've been removed across the board it'd definately be worth mentioning in the article. --Kiand 23:46, 14 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I think the Royal Household used to buy cigarettes for guests. It was formerly common to offer them, especially at diplomatic functions. The warrant was not likely to have been removed due to laspe of useage, more likely as it was felt inappropriate to be seen to endorse cigarette companies. B & H As I unserstand it now use a pretend coat of arms in place of the Royal Warrant. DavidFarmbrough 08:16, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Missing Company[edit]

Is there a reason Spink is not listed here ? They appear to have Three Royal Warrants. (http://www.spink.com/home_page/index.asp) (LordFenix 21:06, 2 February 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Spink is in the list but has no Wikipedia article. Any Offers :) User:Barlinerchat 16:03, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Other types of Royal Warrants[edit]

Isn't a Royal Warrant granted to suppliers of good and services (in the UK) merely but one form of Royal Warrant? Doesn't the term embrace a more general type of document, and, if so, should this point be made at the start of this article? I ask this because I see that in the Queen's Scout article, it is noted that Queens Scouts are made under Royal Warrant from the Queen. I am almost certain that this, if true, would mean that there is at least one present useage of Royal Warrants that is not connected with the supply of goods and services to members of the Royal Family.

I agree - aren't Senior NCO's in the UK and some Commonwealth armed forces also 'warranted' hence the royal coat of arms worn on the sleeve? For example: Regimental Sergeant Major (Warrant Officer Class 1) Andywebby 23:51, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I believe "Royal Warrant" is currently used only for the kind of warrant this article is about (see [1] for example). Other "Royal Warrants" are, strictly speaking, Letters Patent. FiggyBee 19:49, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The Queen orders letters patent be passed by means of a royal warrant see London Gazette Archive User:Barlinerchat 17:15, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Split countries[edit]

I think the non-UK lists should be split off, as they are not referred to in the introduction to the article. 193.95.165.190 11:27, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No. As the other countries are little more than lists, it is better to rewrite the intro. to show the The UK is not the only issuer of these royal warrants. User:Barlinerchat 14:07, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Farina gegenüber[edit]

Farina gegenüber is mentioned a lot in this article, but in the case of Belgium and The Netherlands, they are not actual warrant holder/purveyor to the court. Is this wikispam? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.144.113.76 (talk) 13:23, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Overhaul[edit]

This article probably needs a title change and a new introduction since "Royal Warrant" is a specifically British term with all its subtle meanings. Perhaps the title should be something along the lines of "Royal patronage" or something (I know "patronage" has many uses too), and then describe that it is a tradition of Western European monarchs to allow merchants to advertise their connection to some royal family. Mention of Britain, Denmark, etc, (and each country's specific ways of doing things) should come only after the general concept has been described. 118.90.113.2 (talk) 01:49, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tradesman ?[edit]

"Royal Warrants are only awarded to tradesmen. "

Even taking a very liberal interpretation of the normal meaning of the word "tradesmen" , it is difficult to see how this is true. This sentence is wikilinked to the word tradesman, but none of the products and services well known as being the subject of a Royal Warrant would come within the scope of that normal meaning of the word tradesman.Eregli bob (talk) 00:33, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Related categories nominated for deletion[edit]

__meco (talk) 23:23, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

{{stub}}[edit]

I consider this article to be a {{stub}}. The article has an explanation of royal warrants, but the explanation is only a short one in the introduction. The article contains almost only lists. Therefore, the article needs information about the following:
– To hold a royal warrant is not just about suppling to the royal family. To hold a royal warrant is a sort of a "seal/stamp of approval" – and maybe the must important and influential approval a company can get. A company needs to be very well managed and needs to prove it regularly for their royal house. For example, it is extremely rare that a company holding a royal warrant go bankrupt. A company holding a royal warrant must have a very good financial situation. Furthermore, the way the company is running has to be of high ethical standards. To get a royal warrant is not just making things of high quality and then go to a slot machine to drew a royal warrant. And of course a company will loses its royal warrant, for example if the company gets judged for breaking the law; (of course not if the illegality is of trivial matter).
– The article doesn't say much, or almost nothing, about how to get a royal warrant and what is means to have a royal warrant. --Peoplefromarizona (talk) 13:32, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kingdom of Tonga[edit]

Tonga may run a similar system. According to this page "As a sign of its purity the Kingdom of Tonga coffee bears the Royal Seal by Appointment to His Majesty the King of Tonga. In fact, the King takes packages of Royal Tongan Coffee with him when he travels as his gift to other Heads of State." As this is a page by a coffee merchant I'm not considering it a WP:RELIABLESOURCE but if anyone can find more information or a good reference ... Kiore (talk) 05:58, 12 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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