Talk:William Tell (opera)

Comment

Removed 203.88.254.129's verbatim insertion of http://library.flawlesslogic.com/tell.htm.

Featured sound candidates/William Tell Overture

Please see Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates/William Tell Overture about the brass band file just added to this article. --Kleinzach 02:32, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Ballet music

I think this deserves a little space. There seem to be a number of recordings of the music and the Pas de six is the source for the first movement for Britten's Matinees Musicales which should be mentioned. Any suggestions on where best to fit it in? A section of its own or a mention with the arias or overture?--Peter cohen (talk) 22:40, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

As I understand it, now that the arias/recits etc are in the synopsis, we should remove the "Noted arias" section altogether - is that right? I think you're right about the ballet music - this was after all a key component of these operas (thought I didn't know about the Britten until now). Perhaps in a (greatly expanded) performance history/recording history section? – Lackingdirection (talk) 23:48, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

This looks like a reliable source for the Britten. The movement was very familiar to me but I hadn't realised that it was based on Rossini. I wasn't the only gallery prommer last night to be disconcerted by hearing such a familiar piece in the body of the opera when we thought that only the overture was well-known.--Peter cohen (talk) 23:59, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

That does look reliable (and fascinating, to me anyway). I suppose we could put it into a Tosca-style "Music" section, along with the Overture and a longer discussion of the rest of the music (would take some doing though!) I think the overture section is a little incongruous - it would be like having a "Nessun Dorma" section near the top of the aforementioned Tosca - but it does deserve special mention... – Lackingdirection (talk) 00:10, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Advice sought on image

I've found an image that I think would be great for the Roles section at the V&A site. As best I can tell from the Wiki guidelines, it should be fine to use as a reproduction of a 19th century original. The metadata from some images used on the Wikipedia site on the V&A itself would seem to support this. I was hoping (as a newbie) that someone more familiar with these issues could either confirm, or tell me that I'm completely mistaken, as appropriate! Thanks in advance, – Lackingdirection (talk) 15:23, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

The opera's title

Shouldn't it be "Guillaume Tell"? That's the original title of the opera ... --Malcolm77 (talk) 09:39, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

The original title of an opera has never been particularly relevant when it comes to how we title opera articles. It's the name they are best known by in the English-speaking world, whatever that is in each case. It may turn out to be the original title or it may not, and it may turn out that it's not even an English title. Hence Götterdämmerung, not Twilight of the Gods; hence La bohème, not some OR translation thereof; but hence The Marriage of Figaro, not Le nozze di Figaro; but La clemenza di Tito, not The Mercy of Titus.

As for this article, who's ever heard of the "Guillaume Tell Overture"? That’s almost the whole argument against naming this Guillaume Tell. That said, we title the article William Tell but then immediately start out talking about something called Guillaume Tell, and the list of operas in the box also refers to Guillaume Tell. This is a problem we need to fix pronto. -- ♬ Jack of Oz ♬ ^{[your turn]} 10:40, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Good point - does that change to the lead make it a simple enough fix? For the article at least - less sure about the infobox... Lackingdirection (talk) 00:37, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Much better, thank you! --Robert.Allen (talk) 05:38, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes, thanks muchly, Lacking.

Re the infobox: We seem to have a policy of opera infoboxes always showing the name under which operas were first published, even where, as in this case, there's a mismatch between the name shown and the title of the article. I must check about this, because on the face of it, it's contrary to the principle of always referring to an article by its current name. Otherwise, what's the point of changing it? -- ♬ Jack of Oz ♬ ^{[your turn]} 11:03, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Do we? The Barber of Seville is not listed as Almaviva. Also, the dual-language way it's done there is almost certainly the best compromise here. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8.9% of all FPs} 21:47, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

FYI, WikiProject Opera has a list (decided upon some years ago) of operas commonly referred to by their English titles here. The navboxes show the operas in chronological order togther with (generally) year of first performance. I don't see the need to substitute William Tell for Guillaume Tell in the list - the latter was the title used when it was first performed, as explained in the article's lead/lede, and incorporating one English title in a list of Italian and French titles would look rather weird, IMO. (But then I would say that, wouldn't I! ) --GuillaumeTell 17:52, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

File:Eugène Du Faget - Costume designs for Guillaume Tell - 1-3. Laure Cinti-Damoreau as Mathilde, Adolphe Nourrit as Arnold Melchtal, and Nicolas Levasseur as Walter Furst.jpg scheduled for POTD

Hello! This is to let editors know that the featured picture File:Eugène Du Faget - Costume designs for Guillaume Tell - 1-3. Laure Cinti-Damoreau as Mathilde, Adolphe Nourrit as Arnold Melchtal, and Nicolas Levasseur as Walter Furst.jpg, which is used in this article, has been selected as the English Wikipedia's picture of the day (POTD) for May 4, 2021. A preview of the POTD is displayed below and can be edited at Template:POTD/2021-05-04. For the greater benefit of readers, any potential improvements or maintenance that could benefit the quality of this article should be done before its scheduled appearance on the Main Page. If you have any concerns, please place a message at Wikipedia talk:Picture of the day. Thank you! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:09, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

William Tell (Guillaume Tell) is a French-language opera in four acts by the Italian composer Gioachino Rossini, first performed in 1829. This watercolour illustration shows costume designs by Eugène Du Faget for three characters for the opera's premiere: from left to right, Laure Cinti-Damoreau as Mathilde, Adolphe Nourrit as Arnold Melchtal, and Nicolas Levasseur as Walter Furst. The picture had previously been cut up into three separate images (one for each character), and has here been restored.

Painting credit: Eugène Du Faget; restored by Adam Cuerden

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