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On 24 December 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Cheyenne people. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Population[edit]

Can someone please update the Northern Cheyenne population. it reads as 3542 in the combined population total and is referenced as 9945 in the text.. thnksThe Northern Cheyenne Tribe reports 9,945 enrolled tribal members as of 2011. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seger77 (talk • contribs) 07:34, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed using the Northern Cheyenne website as source Jonpatterns (talk) 10:05, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Washita River[edit]

Could the author of this great page PLEASE take a look at the account of the Battle of Washita River. It is an absolute disgrace, (it relies on Custer's own account!) and I think you are obviously the best one to sort it out. Thanks. User:86.128.122.91 01:08, 16 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Why don't you write something? There have been 30 to 40 contributors to this article.

WikiDon 02:03, 16 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I changed title 18 century/Indian Wars to 19 century/Indian wars because it seemed to me that it is about 19. not 18. century since all years mentioned are 18XX which means 19 century. I don`t know much about native american history so maybe I got something wrong, please check it and revert my edit if I was wrong

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Cheyenne patricia carmen ortiz[edit]

Is this the full title of the Cheyenne nation, or just a mistake? G y re 01:30, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Number of Deaths at Sand Creek[edit]

It is my understanding the number of Deaths was more like 400-500. This number was later altered to about 30 to hide the obvious guilt of the parties invilved. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.180.32.6 (talk) 04:31, 18 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

400 to 500 was an exaggeration made by Chivington. About 200 is more real. Fred Talk 01:04, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cheyenne and Arapaho[edit]

This article doesn't state that the Cheyenne and Arapaho Tribes are currently united as a single nation? That's a serious omission. Badagnani 21:46, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is and the whole question of how to write the two articles Cheyenne and Arapaho is difficult. Fred Talk 01:05, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

For anyone looking for the article, it's at Cheyenne and Arapaho Tribes. -Uyvsdi (talk) 00:41, 21 January 2011 (UTC)Uyvsdi[reply]

The Cheyenne and Arapaho Nation does not exist. The ceremonial ways are totally different and there has never been a Cheyenne/Arapaho Cermony. The US government put them on the same reservation because they were afraid of an uprising by the Cheyenne. The Cheyenne Tribe of Oklahoma hold there own separate ceremonies and are the Southern part of a greater United Cheyenne Nation. The omission is not serious as Arapahos are a totally different nation that include their Northern Arapaho brothers of Wyoming. seger77@hotmail.com 17:15, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

"related groups" info removed from infobox[edit]

For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all {{Infobox Ethnic group}} infoboxes. Comments may be left on the Ethnic groups talk page. Ling.Nut 20:19, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to have been restored now, which is good. Fred Talk 01:07, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Custerwest" disrupting Washita article[edit]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Washita_River

See talk page and history. He dissmisses the official American Military History[1] as "a simple website, it's not serious", removes all the findings of CMH (because "The army center of military history isn't filled of military historians about the Washita.").

He also calls me "the idiot"[2], and "jerk", "Damn...jackass", "ignorant monkey", "damn idiot", "stupid bastard", and threatens to "kick" my "damn ass". [3]. If someone cares enough to get him blocked, thanks. Also, one would check his other edits, if any. --HanzoHattori 19:08, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cheyenne article..."are a plains" group[edit]

I believe this native American group migrated out onto the plains from Minnesota area. Needs corrction. 66.224.2.131 (talk) 22:48, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That is true (as the article states), but they left Minnesota centuries ago, following Erect Horns' vision. They have exemplified Plains Horse culture for the last two centuries, and today both Cheyenne tribes are located on the Plains: Montana and Oklahoma. -Uyvsdi (talk) 22:57, 12 May 2009 (UTC)Uyvsdi[reply]

Pronounciation[edit]

As an Australian, I had no idea on how to pronounce the name of this people properly until I consulted with an American friend. Initially I though it must have been Chain-knee, like the former Bush administration vice president. I have meant no disrespect in my edit to the front page to include the prononciation "Shy-Anne" and I believe this will aid international visitors to the wikipedia site. Please correct my pronounciation if incorrect, or even add the international pronounciation symbols, but please don't simply revert my post, I believe it to be a valuable contribution to the front page.60.240.14.140 (talk) 15:24, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Continued contentious reverting from Isaac Rabinovich[edit]

User Isaac Rabbinovich seems to be edit warring and reverting his edits in simply for the sake of reverting. This is not constructively editing the article so much as it is looking for trouble. The drive-by tags he is adding, with no explanation here on the talk page, are requesting information on dates that are already given in practically every section of the article INCLUDING the lede section. Therefore I removed them once with this explanation. Adding them in a second time seems like willful obtuseness. I am tired of reverting this editor's continued messing with this article. Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 00:46, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Will keep an eye on this page. Just tried to clean up a lot of redundant and some speculative statements. -Uyvsdi (talk) 03:39, 4 July 2013 (UTC)Uyvsdi[reply]

Requested move 2 February 2015[edit]

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The result of the move request was: Not Moved No consensus for the move in this discussion. Plus there is considerable inconsistency in NA tribal related articles--many use only the TRIBENAME and many use TRIBENAME People. Per Maunus below, no clear rationale has been given to move this one to the other side of inconsistency. Mike Cline (talk) 14:31, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Cheyenne → Cheyenne people – people. Relisted. Favonian (talk) 22:30, 11 February 2015 (UTC). 76.120.164.90 (talk) 20:01, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And what would happen to "Cheyenne"? Would it redirect to the article on the people or would Cheyenne (disambiguation) be moved there? — AjaxSmack 00:59, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I would suggest a disambiguation page.User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 01:28, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If moved, replace with disambiguation page -- 65.94.40.137 (talk) 03:37, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Recentlym however the Great Native American Move War of 2014 resulted in a kind of consensus that the indigenous groups are the primary topics for their names and that consequently we don't need to have "X people" articles, they should be located directly at X. So unless there are special reasons that the Cheyenne ethnic group should not be considered the primary topic of Cheyenne then I think it is best to leave it.User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 03:44, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support - I don't see evidence that the people are primary over the city in Wyoming. I think there is no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC here. — Amakuru (talk) 14:53, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support but keep the redirect - the city, while the capital, is not a very important town at all. Red Slash 23:47, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support only if the disambiguation page is moved to "Cheyenne" (but I have opinion on whether it should be or not). Otherwise, oppose as unnecessary. — AjaxSmack 01:28, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose – Unnecessary disambiguation. The present title is adequate, and more WP:CONCISE. Leave well alone per WP:TITLECHANGES. Let's note that WP:USPLACE dictates that "Place, State" is required for locales, meaning that Cheyenne, Wyoming shall always be as it is, meaning that there is no need to worry about that. A hatnote should suffice. RGloucester — ☎ 02:29, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per RGloucester, knowing that Cheyenne is more popular for this particular concept. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 05:33, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per Maunus and RGloucester. The town in Wyoming is fine where it is, and this is best where it is. - CorbieV^☊ 20:59, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support with moving the disambig page. Cheyenne has many important meanings that need to be disambiguated. 2620:0:1000:157D:7522:8BA:AC49:BE47 (talk) 17:39, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Cheyenne/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Linguistics article, separate tribal article needed. As with other linguistics-written pages, I'm of the firm conviction they should all have more lay content, rather than just technical discussions/descriptions. Skookum1 - May 9, 06 The article appears much better now, and it has been split into Linguistics and Tribe. Needs more information about demographics & current history. Phaedriel - July 11,06

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Indigenous peoples in Minnesota[edit]

How are they indigenous peoples of the Great Plains if they lived in Minnesota when first contact was made? Did they not get pushed into the plains by the expansion of the whites, offsetting the previous inhabitants in the process (who would thus have a greater claim to being indigenous to the Great Plains)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.244.59.122 (talk) 00:16, 22 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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