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Copyright issue[edit]

See Talk:The Red Book of the Peoples of the Russian Empire. Mikkalai 06:35, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Question[edit]

"in 1979, 75.2 % of the Evenk were fluent in Russian": does this refer only to Evenki in the then-Soviet Union, or to the total population? The article hints that they are in both Russia and China, but gives only a vague clue to how the numbers in the two countries divide. -- Jmabel 02:39, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)

"related groups" info removed from infobox[edit]

For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all {{Infobox Ethnic group}} infoboxes. Comments may be left on the Ethnic groups talk page. Ling.Nut 23:08, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Related to Native Americans?[edit]

One article says that the X haploptype has been found in some present-day Evenks as well as in some Native Americans. Some aspects of the culture of the Evenks -- birch bark boats, traditional dwelling places -- look strikingly similar to those of native tribes in North America. --Bookworm857158367 (talk) 18:56, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're correct in the cultural similarities between these two groups; however, these same ties are noted across many cultures in the northern hemisphere. The question is, was it independent creation or, dispersion of knowledge by nomadic people? Personally, I support the later as the cause of similarities. Note also the cult of bear worship across most sub-Arctic and Arctic people's from the Sami to the Cherokee. ThothsBook 05:55, 3 July 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThothsBook (talk • contribs)

In the Encyclopedia of Cultures and Daily Life (1998) 31 "minorities" or "indigeneous peoples" were highlighted in the European volume (instead of Asia); the Inuits of Alaska described separately from Evenki and Evens. Currently, we have major issues in foreign policy which involve the Tartars of Russia (as opposed to Tartars historically) and the Crimean Peninsula (of Ukraine), Ossetians (province of Georgia to declared independence with Russia) and the independent Nation of Georgia, and Chechens, from Chechyna in Russia, now named by newsmedia as invading the Ukraine in 2022! Today, I had the Turkmens to Persia as former Soviet Republics with WWI and WWII. 2603:7081:2000:3EF3:24A4:539E:AAAC:B0D9 (talk) 21:31, 7 June 2022 (UTC)JARacino2603:7081:2000:3EF3:24A4:539E:AAAC:B0D9 (talk) 21:31, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

“Predominantly † Orthodox Christianity”?![edit]

What point of view did this article advertise? I'm living in China, and among the 30 thousands Evenks in China Shamanism is the predominant belief, but in this article it says "Russianized Orthodox" is the predominant belief?! I placed a NPOV template to this article. ––虞海 (Yú Hǎi) ✍ 15:28, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, this isn't really an NPOV issue per se. The Soviet sources (on which the article was built), naturally refer to the Evenks as a minority population of the USSR; Chinese sources known the Evenks as a shamanastic nomad tribe from the north. Until we can locate a non-Soviet, non-Chinese source, we're to some degree left speculating on the total number and total % breakdown of religious customs. -Aerolit (talk) 08:39, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

We also have the use in wikipedia constantly of "Cossacks", now as Christianity in this wikipedia. This party is coming in from 1939 invasion of Poland by Germany and Russia, both virtually simultaneously (WWII). Poland, of course, is a predominantly Catholic country and communism is traditionally termed atheistic (instead, China as eastern religions; Russia and orthodox religions) and as taking out religious worship (this morning, Soviet rule, 300 mosques to 1, back in 1955; underground Catholic Church of Poland, WWII). 2603:7081:2000:3EF3:24A4:539E:AAAC:B0D9 (talk) 21:42, 7 June 2022 (UTC)JARacino2603:7081:2000:3EF3:24A4:539E:AAAC:B0D9 (talk) 21:42, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Qing dynasty Aisin Gioro Y chromosome DNA found in Evenks[edit]

Aisin Gioro Y chomosome DNA was found in "Xibe, Outer Mongolians, Inner Mongolians, Ewenki, Oroqen, Manchu, and Hezhe" males and number around 1 million people. Their ancestor was Nurhaci's grandfather Giocangga, whose descendants made up the Qing dynasty nobility. But the Y chromosome was not found in the general Han Chinese population.

The Y chromosome cluster is specifically C3c, part of the General Haplogroup C-M217, which Genghis Khan's lineage is a part of, although the Manchu Aisin Gioro Y chromosome is part of a different cluster than Genghis Khan's

The reason it spread among these specific minority groups, but not among the Han Chinese population, is because the Qing Manchu nobility was concentrated specifically in the ethnically Manchu Eight Banners and not in the Mongolian and Han Eight Banners, and the specific ethnic groups which made up the Manchu Eight banners were "Manchu, Mongolian, Daur, Oroqen, Ewenki, Xibe".

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1285168/

http://www.cell.com/ajhg/pdf/S0002-9297(07)63394-1.pdf

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929707633941

http://www.genebase.com/learning/article/23

Rajmaan (talk) 21:38, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures[edit]

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Mondols[edit]

Is the term "Mondols" in the article correct or is that a misspelling of "Mongols"? 204.210.190.132 (talk) 06:42, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Evenks in China table[edit]

Much of the information in the table refers to a couple of places in China, however these are the German names of these locations on the English page. Please fix 86.82.0.55 (talk) 18:02, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please fix (nearly 12 months later). 173.88.241.33 (talk) 04:43, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Flag in the infobox[edit]

The flag of Evenks in the infobox is an organization's flag. It's probably not a flag of the ethnicity. There are no sources on this page about the flag — Preceding unsigned comment added by AAAAA143222 (talk • contribs) 22:15, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]