Talk:Nihonbashi

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Given that this article provides the kanji and translation of Nihonbashi, it should really be under that name, and not Nihombashi. Exploding Boy 17:30, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)

Not quite sure what you mean by "the kanji ... of Nihonbashi" since kanji do not indicate romaji. Also not sure what you mean by "translation" since "Japan bridge" does not indicate an "n" rather than an "m." Even kana would not distinguish between "n" and "m" since ん has both pronunciations, depending on the situation. I favor the "m" since that conveys the pronunciation to ordinary speakers of English but Wikipedia policy specifies use of the "n" so that could be a basis for a page move. WP also specifies using the most common English spelling, so if you want to use your favorite search engine, why not give it a try. I'm not good enough at Google to allow sites from the English-speaking countries but filter out others: even with Language set to English, the first site that comes up for Nihonbashi is in Italian, so I don't have the stamina to sort it all out. Anyhow, if you do move the page, there aren't so very many links to fix, and many already point to "Nihonbashi." Fg2 22:28, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)
"Nihonbashi" is a lot more common on Google. WhisperToMe 03:02, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Person's infobox listing[edit]

Let's say a person was born in Nihonbashi, would the proper way to say it be Chūō, Tokyo, Japan; Nihonbashi, Chūō, Tokyo, Japan; or Nihonbashi, Tokyo, Japan? Or something else entirely? Thanks, Doctor Sunshine 20:19, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Whether or not to include Nihonbashi in the location depends on the level of precision you want to convey. The nation is Japan, the prefecture ("state" or "province") is Tokyo and the special ward ("city") is Chuo. Within Chuo are lots of neighborhoods, of which Nihonbashi is particularly well-known. If you want to name the neighborhood, you can. Within the US postal convention (going from smallest to largest), the place would be Nihonbashi, Chuo, Tokyo, Japan; the Japanese use the reverse convention: Japan, Tokyo, Chuo, Nihonbashi. Typically, one doesn't specify the neighborhood where someone is born, so one would omit Nihonbashi, but there might be reasons to do so, if the neighborhood is widely known for playing a role in shaping the life of the person or if they grew up together with some other famous person from the same area: the South Bronx, Forest Hills, Greenwich Village, Harlem or another neighborhood of New York City, the East End of London (I'm guessing, since I'm not very familiar with London). Nihonbashi was formerly known for rich merchant families, so one might have been that specific in telling where, for example, an Edo-period person was born. Fg2 21:00, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You're most helpful. Thank you. I've included Nihonbashi in the biographical section, so i'm going to replace it in the infobox with Chuo. The original source for the birth location, I assume, had been the IMDb which lists it as Nihonbashi, Tokyo, Japan. This is for Seijun Suzuki, by the way. Doctor Sunshine 22:38, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, now that makes it even more interesting. Chuo (as a ward) didn't exist in 1923, when Suzuki was born. Nihonbashi was a ward (not a special ward) of the old city of Tokyo, which was in turn in Tokyo Prefecture. So it becomes a matter of whether you want to use the name that was in place when he was born (Nihonbashi), which is a place bigger than a neighborhood and as large as the modern city of Chuo but was not then a city (didn't have a mayor or city council), or the modern name (Chuo), which is now a special ward, i.e. a city.
The old form: Nihonbashi Ward, Tokyo City, Tokyo Prefecture, Japan
The new form: Chuo, Tokyo, Japan (which you wrote in the article)
If you want to explain IMDB: Chuo (formerly Nihonbashi), Tokyo, Japan
All this is probably more than you need... Incidentally, I clicked the link to your article on Jo Shishido, and noticed that he's listed as being from Osaka, Honshu, Japan. A consistent style would omit Honshu (the island), which is not part of postal addresses, and since it is has 60% of the country's area and is home to 3/4 of Japan's population doesn't narrow things down much. The city's name is Osaka, and the prefecture's name is Osaka. So if you're interested in naming both, it would be Osaka, Osaka, Japan. Or, if you prefer, Osaka, Osaka Prefecture, Japan. Which is even more than you need... Thanks, especially, for the articles! Fg2 07:20, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well I'm glad I asked. You know your stuff. I think I'd better go for detail so as to avoid confusing any other poor souls like myself. Thanks for the help with Jo too – and for giving them a look over, in general – I threw together Jo's article when I first started with Wikipedia a few months ago and was even more lost than I am now. I hope to get back to him once I fill out some of Suzuki's articles a bit. Love those crazy guys. Appreciated. Doctor Sunshine 16:01, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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