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Not a single tie to any written version of any Arthurian tale of any date. So far... Wetman 07:35, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Huh? Lot was Morgause's husband and the father of Gawain. Rick K 08:10, Sep 30, 2004 (UTC)

Although these facts are pretty easy to gather, they do need to be referenced. By the way, Gawain was the Welsh Gwalchmai, but who did Gwalchaved become? I noticed Gawain has three full brothers, but I did not notice the origins on those pages. ---G.T.N. (talk) 01:31, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hagiog - to Cu[edit]

Hello, what's the case for the bio of Kentigern preceding Geoffrey? The so-called "Herbert Ms"? Caradoc was essentially at the same time as Geoff. Redheylin (talk) 11:59, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

LOOMIS: "a Life of St Kentigern,6 written between 1147 and 1164, which records that Ewen, son of King Urien, celebrated by the histriones,7 that is, professional story-tellers, wooed the step-daughter of Leudonus, King of Leudonia (Lothian), surprised her beside a brook, ravished her, and begat on her the future St Kentigern. Leudonus is, of course, a fictitious character, invented to account for the name of his kingdom, Leudonia, just as Brutus of Trojan descent was in- vented to account for the name Britannia, and as Albanact was invented by Geoffrey of Monmouth to explain the name Albania. So we have the testimony of the Life of St Kentigern that in the middle of the 12th century" (6=Lives of St Ninian and St Kentigern, ed. A. P. Forbes (Edinburgh, 1874), 245-7. 7=" Histriomim " is the correct reading of the manuscript, not" historiarum. Romanians)" Redheylin (talk) 14:03, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's from Bromwich. She says that the Kentigern material predated and influenced Geoffrey in regards to the eponymous king of Lothian. He appears in the early Fragmentary Life of St Kentigern as Leudonus. I was a bit surprised myself.--Cúchullain ^t/c 14:55, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, it most likely is but it's odd she was so categorical. Thanks anyway. Hope you liked the Chretien bit. Redheylin (talk) 03:31, 27 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lothian/Hadrian's Wall[edit]

There may be many contentious issues in this article, but I think we can all agree that Lothian is NOT "south of Hadrian's Wall". (Beginning of final paragraph. )2600:6C55:6D00:109B:20C4:90D:FE42:75C6 (talk) 22:46, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]