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Garrett MacKeen

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Fails WP:NSKATE; PROD removed without explanation. Bgsu98 (Talk) 18:40, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

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Mackenzie Bent

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Fails WP:NSKATE; PROD removed without explanation. Bgsu98 (Talk) 18:38, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

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Geraint James (rugby union)

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I am unable to find sufficient in-depth coverage of the subject -- a Welsh rugby union player who played one pro game -- to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. A couple mentions here, another trivial mention there, but nothing substantial. JTtheOG (talk) 23:15, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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WRZB-LD

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 22:48, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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Colton Eastman

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Non-notable baseball player. Majority of cited sources are transaction logs and other WP:ROUTINE coverage that does not establish WP:GNG. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:31, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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•  Comment: Dropping a couple of sources from his college days. Cal State Fullerton pitcher Colton Eastman could help lift team past slow start, Timely Return: Rested and eager, Eastman strengthens Titans Timely Return part 2, A Three-Pronged Strategy for Draft, Eastman could have tough choice, Tough choice part 2, Ex-Central standout Eastman pitches no-hitter. JTtheOG (talk) 23:08, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
• Delete Agree with the nom here. Not really a notable baseball player. SportingFlyer T·C 02:40, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

KSCZ-LD

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 22:25, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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 Comment: The various subchannels collectively represent most of the local Vietnamese-langauge media landscape in one of the largest Vietnamese American markets. They would be more notable than the station itself, sort of like anchor stores being more notable than their strip mall. These subchannels previously broadcast on KAXT-CD, which was notable in its own right for technical innovations during the 2010s. But after KAXT changed ownership and the Vietnamese stations fled to KSCZ, I haven't found a good way to write about them. Maybe I can find some angle for it in Media in the San Francisco Bay Area, minus all the technical details in this article. Minh Nguyễn ^💬 01:47, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

WCPX-LD

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 21:52, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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Yasmin Siraj

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Fails WP:NSKATE; PROD removed without explanation. Bgsu98 (Talk) 18:40, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Comment But doesn't fail BASIC because the sourcing seems to be there (WBUR, Wicked Local, etc.). As I mentioned to you here, NSKATE is less important than GNG/BASIC. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 21:13, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
• Keep -- The two sources presented by Hameltion alone are enough to meet GNG / WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG (talk) 06:40, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep, agreed that there's more than enough to meet both GNG and NSKATE --TJS808 (talk) 22:03, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
  • Just for clarification, the nominator is correct that the subject does not meet NSKATE. JTtheOG (talk) 23:23, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
• Keep. NSKATE is not as important as GNG. This is a useful short article on a skater who was reasonably successful in junior skating tournaments. Articles on those tournaments work in their current format because there are articles on most of the medalists; there is therefore no need to say anything about the medalists in such articles (for example: ISU Junior Grand Prix in France). Deleting articles such as this one, has a detrimental effect on other articles.-- Toddy1 (talk) 07:41, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Travis Mager

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Absolutely fails WP:NSKATE; an earlier PROD had been removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 17:44, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Agree with recommendation to delete, fails both general and specific notability rules--TJS808 (talk) 22:13, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

2008 Bin Salman mosque bombing

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The 2 sources provided are from the time of event. No lasting coverage or impact to meet WP:EVENT. LibStar (talk) 07:13, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep: subsequent reactions to the event are presented in the zh.wiki page, here is one source: [1] where the attack is described as "a dangerous escalation in the northern conflict". Broc (talk) 08:44, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Merge to Terrorism in Yemen under its own section. The coverage above does not convince me of long term notability; there was some commentary immediately after it occured, but not a lot. Most notable as part of the overall terrorism situation (which merging it to the article preserves) It's possible of course that long term coverage exists in another language and if evidence of that is ever provided I would not argue against its recreation, but I doubt it. PARAKANYAA (talk) 08:47, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

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MarilynManson.com

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Largely unsourced collection of original research/commentary about what happens to have been on Marilyn Manson's website. Not inherently notable; no evidence that the use of the website is unique or notable in-and-of-itself. Includes numerous unnecessary external links. Fails WP:WEBSITE. Any minor content worth noting about the website can simply be part of Marilyn Manson. ZimZalaBim ^talk 21:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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Delete - I got an edit conflict trying to nominate this; you've said exactly what I was about to :) Notability is not inherited, and the OR/fancruft factor means there's little left that can't be merged into the main articles on MM the band / MM the person if needed. Jonathan Deamer (talk) 21:18, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Delete - for all reasons highlighted by nominator and first commenter. Dclemens1971 (talk) 22:42, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Dillanos Coffee Roasters

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Fails WP:NCORP with no independent coverage. Sources are promotional interviews, press releases, and a non-notable award. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 20:44, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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Chicago Strangler

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There is no proof that the Chicago Strangler exists. As arrests have been made in this case, it's been a number of people committing two or three of the crimes attributed to this theoretical person. It is much more likely that, instead of there being one Chicago Strangler, the violence perpetrated on these women is instead a reflection of the way in which we do not value the lives of women of color, especially women of color who engage in sex work. Mhuertaschicago (talk) 20:25, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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• @Mhuertaschicago, nothing you're writing constitutes a reason for deletion. We have lots of articles about theoreticized concepts. Geschichte (talk) 20:51, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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• Speedy keep Agreeing with Geschichte. Regarding your last sentence, see WP:OR and WP:RGW Atubofsilverware (talk) 03:35, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Antioch Pizza

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Fails WP:NCORP. Entirely primary sources and no independent coverage. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 20:38, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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Inclined to Wikipedia:Draftify instead. It's fairly new, and a quick search turned up articles from the Chicago Tribune, among others (new to this, unsure if external links are allowed here). I think this could be notable, just needs a little more time in the oven. TJS808 (talk) 21:36, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

• Weak Delete The Tribune article is the only source of good GNG to satisfy WP:NCORP, the Milwaukee Business Times is unknown in its reliability as a source (though willing to change if proven). Besides if there are more sources published, Wiki is not a WP:CRYSTALBALL; this article can be recreated. Conyo14 (talk) 22:03, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Workday Adaptive Planning

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Does not meet WP:CORP, at least in my opinion. There is no significant coverage from a reliable source, the Fortune article cited is simply a serialized list. A cursory Google search for alternative sources didn't turn up much, as they were acquired by Workday. TJS808 (talk) 20:24, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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Merge to Workday, Inc. All independent available coverage that I can find is in the vein of acquisitions and thus not qualifying under WP:ORGCRIT ([2], [3], [4]). Other available coverage appears to be sponcon or otherwise not independent. Dclemens1971 (talk) 22:49, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

I would also second Dclemens1971's opinion to merge for the same reason. Annika59 (talk) 00:56, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Una Mamea Park

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Apparently this is some sort of a weird local controversy, it's been covered a couple of times by Jutarnji list[5], Nova TV[6], Večernji list[7]. Wikipedia should not be used as a vehicle for promotional activities, and at the same time the controversy itself does not rise to the level of being worthy of describing by the encyclopedia. Joy (talk) 20:05, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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Matthew Irmas

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A preliminary search for resources on Irmas provides little indication of notability per WP:NBASIC. The three citations are all reviews of films associated with the subject, failing WP:SIGCOV. The article is over a decade old and has been a stub the entire time, I believe both because the subject is not notable enough to generate much interest and because there has been little to add in terms of reliable, substantive, secondary coverage.

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Vegantics (talk) 19:36, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep: Directed 3 notable films, thus meeting WP:DIRECTOR. NB- I DeproDed the page today (same nominator; see article TP) -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:05, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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  Forgive my inexperienced Wikipedia editing, I regarded my nomination for deletion earlier today as the first nomination, making this the second. I couldn't find clarification on if the nomination count only applied to those that underwent a discussion. Vegantics (talk) 20:27, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

  OK, thanks (not a big deal, now that this is clear; this page can be moved (renamed) later). -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:30, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

  Thanks! Vegantics (talk) 20:43, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep. Meets WP:CREATIVE#3, "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series) or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews". He served as a director for three notable films and was also producer for the film Three of Hearts. MoviesandTelevisionFan (talk) 00:45, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Willy Suarez Maceo

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Fails WP:PERP. Also, he has only been charged, not convicted of a crime, so there's a chance that he's innocent. Clarityfiend (talk) 19:46, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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Delete. If there's more in depth coverage after/if he's found guilty, then that's another story, but as of now this is in violation of BLPCRIME. PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:55, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Sanjog Waghere

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A WP:BEFORE search on Sanjog Waghere has a lot of reliable hits but they are all about his candidacy in the 2024 Indian general election for Shiv Sena (UBT) making it a case of WP:BLP1E. Fails to meet GNG and NPOL. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 19:36, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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  Article itself has reliable links from before the candidacy. MrMkG (talk) 00:32, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

William van Wyk

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. Purely trivial mentions. JTtheOG (talk) 19:16, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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List of K-pop concerts held outside Asia

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WP:TRIVIA. See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of J-pop concerts held outside Asia. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:09, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

• Delete - I tend to agree this is trivia. It is a grouping of concerts and locations with little importance. While certainly the exposure of Kpop to Western audiences has grown, the composite listing of a bunch of concerts isn't particularly useful.Evaders99 (talk) 06:11, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
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Kagiso Mohale

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Poorly sourced cricketer BLP that fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Ineligible for PROD. No suitable redirect exists AFAIK. JTtheOG (talk) 19:02, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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Alexandru Sorin Biris

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Given the multiple tags, probably worth a full discussion here. Biruitorul ^Talk 18:58, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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• I at least note an overwhelming amount of primary references written by the subject himself. Geschichte (talk) 20:54, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
• Comment. There is a GoogleScholar profile for one Alexandru Biris, a student at Politehnica Timișoara, who almost 100% surely piggy-backs on Alexandru Sorin Biris's publication record (all top articles are by AS Biris, and involve nanotechnology and such). If we accept this hypothesis, then the citation record is quite impressive (almost 20K since 2007, with h-index 66 and i10-index 300), though perhaps not that unusual in this field? The most highly cited papers on the GS list have appeared in ACS Nano, which has an impact factor of 17.1. At any rate, one needs to weigh all this against the overbearing self-promotion in the article, and also those "plagiarism and massive data fabrication" issues mentioned there, plus the structural issues regarding the way the article is (very poorly) written and sourced. Turgidson (talk) 01:54, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

As a Romanian, you must be proud of Alexandru Biris. That is why you try all efforts to cover for him. If this is not the reason you nominated this article for deletion, please explain. Kannarpady (talk) 03:17, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Vesta, Indiana

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Another "no there there" spot, I was able to penetrate the veil of searching and get a couple of hits that weren't reassuring. Baird mentions it in passing several times, once calling it a town and once referring to the post office, but doesn't say anything about it directly. A bank plat map of the county from 1918 shows the name, but there's nothing there but several farms. Mangoe (talk) 18:43, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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Dodge City Crips

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Doesn't meet WP:GNG. Only RS cited at the moment is an LA Times article...which doesn't mention Dodge City Crips. A WP:BEFORE search only turns up incidental mentions (eg. photo captions in tangentially related articles) or non-RS coverage. Jonathan Deamer (talk) 18:42, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete per nomination. Searching for coverage of them in RS, I've found a passing mention in a book and a passing mention in a police magazine. The rest is social media. Wikishovel (talk) 18:54, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
• Delete - can't find any other RSes beyond what Wikishovel already found. Subject doesn't seem to meet GNG. > Asheiou (they/them • talk) 19:03, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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Patrik Kincl

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I am renominating this article for a better debate. I think the 1st nomination was not discussed thoroughly enough. The subject is not meeting requirements of English WP notability for MMA fighters (WP:NMMA). Somehow with low participation on last nomination, the article was kept under the pretext that WP:GNG was met. I disagree. Here's why:

The sources on the article mainly consist of database entries, interviews, subject's personal website and routine fight results. Article about signing his autobiography at a book store and breakdown in negotiations about an OKTAGON promotion title fight. It appears subject authored a self-published autobiography, which does not help the claim of notability. Biography in a Czech sports site, which doesn't appear to be very neutral based on the section titled "Patrik Kincl - the birth of an MMA god”. It seems to be Czech MMA website that has lots of MMA bios, with lack of independent fact checking.

A good faith search on the web also shows these articles not currently on the wiki page (mentioned in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Patrik Kincl

):

• https://www.extra.cz/neprijemna-noc-patrika-kincla-malem-prisel-o-pas-sampiona-vycerpaneho-ho-zamknula-manzelka-na-ulici-d6c0c
• fights.cz/ceska-scena/mma-do-skol-patrik-kincl-predstavil-novy-projekt-573454 

• remiza.cz/patrik-kincl-kral-stredni-vahy-organizace-oktagon-mma.html
• denik.cz/ostatni_sport/oktagon-mma-patrik-kincl-zustava-novy-kontrakt-zapas-eden-titul-matej-penaz.html
• kaocko.cz/mma-pomaha-porada-sbirku-pro-malou-jasminku-ambasadorem-se-stal-sampion-kincl



The sources do not appear to be reliable and independent sources. No indication of independent fact checking. 

No indication that we have the type of coverage required to meet WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO.

 WP:MMA is definitely off the table which should be reason why the article would be there in the first place. The subject is supposed to be notable for his sporting accolades, but they fail to meet notability guidelines.

As user Papaursa, mentioned in the first nomination, all coverage is very typical sports reporting that can be found for any fighters, which is nothing that shows particular notability. In addition, the use of the subject personal website biography twice and the tone used, in my opinion indicates potential PROMO.
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List of career achievements by Russell Westbrook

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Another collection of indiscriminate trivia, which falls into WP:NOTSTATS. Let'srun (talk) 17:42, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Merge a couple of achievements (most triple-doubles, but not Best Dressed NBA player and not "set with Kevin Durant") to his article, which isn't so long that they need to be WP:SPLIT off. The rest are cherry-picked nonsense (e.g. "One of two players in NBA history to average at least 31.2 points, 9.1 rebounds and 10.3 assists in a calendar month"). Clarityfiend (talk) 21:37, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
• Merge In full agreement with Clarityfiend. Full of meaningless fluff like "best dressed" and an Espy Award no one cares about. "NBA achievements" is about 95% unsourced original research. Clearly created by a fan as opposed to a neutral editor. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 00:45, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

AntiVirus Gold

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Run-of-the-mill malware with no evidence of notability. Shows up on a few "how to disinfect your computer" sites but nothing else. Previously dePRODed with a nonsense reason in 2008 * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 17:38, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

• Delete: No evidence this is notable. StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 17:50, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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• Delete no source establishes notability. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 20:28, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

John Garrity

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I couldn't find enough to show he meets WP:N. Boleyn (talk) 17:37, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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Carmen Laura García

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She doesn't seem to meet WP:GNG / WP:NMODEL. In CAT:NN for 14 years. Boleyn (talk) 17:31, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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Bruno Felix

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In CAT:NN for 14 years. Some coverage, but not enough coverage or significance to meet WP:BIO / WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 17:30, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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Fat Worm of Error

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Some coverage and significance but not enough to pass WP:NBAND or WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 17:28, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep In addition to sources already in the article, there's, for starters, [8], [9], [10], [11], [12] - plenty enough for WP:MUSIC bullet one, at minimum. Chubbles (talk) 04:35, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

List of National Weather Service Weather forecast offices

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Wikipedia is WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Let'srun (talk) 17:24, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Comment - A nice referenced list to have. However, how is it kept up to date? — Maile (talk) 18:53, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Dayytona Fox

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Semi-advertorialized WP:BLP of a musician, not properly sourced as passing WP:NMUSIC. The strongest notability claim here is a guest appearance on one album track from another musician's album, which is not an automatic notability clinch in and of itself -- and the article further states that it hasn't proven possible to verify that he's even signed to a record label at all, so the number of titles in the discography section does not fulfill NMUSIC #5 if the music's only verifiable release was on SoundCloud.
But except for one article in The Fader which is too short to get him over WP:GNG all by itself if it's all he has, this is otherwise referenced entirely to primary sources that are not support for notability at all, such as directory entries and Reddit discussion threads and a podcast interview in which he's talking about himself in the first person -- and even on a WP:BEFORE search for other sources, I just get glancing namechecks of his existence rather than GNG-building reliable source coverage about him.
Obviously no prejudice against recreation if and when he attains a stronger notability claim that has better referencing for it, but nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to already qualify him for an article now. Bearcat (talk) 17:12, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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Hashtag Pop

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Does not meet WP:GNG. Has had a {{notability}} tag for eight months with no improvements. References are either company listings, articles hosted by Hashtag Pop itself, or other news sources re-reporting their stories. A WP:BEFORE search in Portuguese doesn't yield any reliable sources with significant coverage. Jonathan Deamer (talk) 16:57, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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Dubee

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Does not meet Wikipedia:Notability (music)

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CITYpeek

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Fails the notability guideline for companies. Passing mentions in local sources only. – Teratix ₵ 16:24, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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Marco Borges

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This does not appear to be any sort of notable person; the article is just an advertisement for his book and/or company. The article was created by a sockpuppet, which is not promising – in the sockpuppet investigation, Spicy said "fairly obvious UPEs" i.e. undisclosed paid editing, like this thing. Any media coverage discovered in WP:BEFORE is stuff like "I ate like Beyonce & lost 16 pounds in 3 weeks" that mentions this guy in passing. ☆ Bri (talk) 16:23, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete Borges does not inherit notability just because he has worked with notable people. We would need to see reliable sources give significant coverage of Borges himself. The sources I saw were either obviously unreliable or only mentioned Borges in passing when discussing Beyonce. – Teratix ₵ 03:45, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Artists Anonymous Theatre Network

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the owner of the page has claimed this to be a historic no longer existing organisation and thus is outdated and irrelevant to information of the world wide web. due to its similarities with existing artist, the owner Alexander Parsonage has allowed for this deletion on wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TazioLinse (talk • contribs) 15:51, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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Katıverelim Rakıyı Da Şaraba Katıverelim

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Turkish Wikipedia doesn't have an article for this, and sources return nothing. WP:GNG concern has been up for 7 years. Allan Nonymous (talk) 16:00, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete single source, per nom. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 20:29, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
• Delete And I see Tsifteteli is not a great article Chidgk1 (talk) 21:05, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
• Delete: A single non-RS and a quick search returns no reliable sources. This obviously does not merit a standalone article even if good sources were found. Aintabli (talk) 21:08, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Rafique Sayed

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Does not passes WP:GNG. TheChronikler7 (talk) 15:58, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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Sports broadcasting contracts in Vietnam

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Also, sources are primary sources, nothing but news announcements and none of those assert notability. Those arguing for a keep claiming how useful it is, shall be advised to refer to WP:USEFUL. I also advise Fandom for them if they want to save it so much. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:36, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete Fails NLIST no indication this has been discussed as a group, meets LISTCRUFT, there is nothing encyclopedic here.  // Timothy :: talk  22:14, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Sports broadcasting contracts in Thailand

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Also, sources are primary sources, nothing but news announcements and none of those assert notability. Those arguing for a keep claiming how useful it is, shall be advised to refer to WP:USEFUL. I also advise Fandom for them if they want to save it so much. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:35, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Comment: No opinion on the page in its current format, which does seem to be WP:LISTCRUFT, but it's a notable topic with potential for a valid article, especially given the long-standing legal and political issues surrounding broadcasting rights for major sporting events (mostly football) since 2012, which have been widely covered.[13][14][15][16][17][18][19][20][21][22] If the page does get deleted it should be without prejudice to the creation of a proper article. --Paul_012 (talk) 11:12, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep based on sources found. Deletion is not cleanup. Esolo5002 (talk) 15:59, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
• Delete Fails NLIST no indication this has been discussed as a group, meets LISTCRUFT, there is nothing encyclopedic here.  // Timothy :: talk  22:14, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Jamie Draven

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No significant in-depth coverage. All I could find were passing mentions (more or less like these 1, 2, 3, 4) and Wiki mirrors. Moreover, the article is unreferenced. X (talk) 10:20, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

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A Buddy Story

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Found zero evidence of notability myself. Mushy Yank added a Variety article which mentions the film, but only very briefly, so I don't take it for much. And even then, if that's all there is then I don't see why this should've been dePRODded in the first place. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 13:08, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Weak delete doesn't seem to meet WP:NF. It was missing from two of the cast's filmography tables so I added it in, noticed that Elizabeth Moss and Torah Feldshuh have both made more recent films that don't have articles so unless anyone can find better independent sources I don't think this needs an entry. Orange sticker (talk) 15:30, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

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IC 21

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The galaxy has only been featured in databases and large scale surveys which don't provide significant commentary on the object, thus fails WP:NASTCRIT C messier (talk) 15:44, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Comment: at that distance I suspect it's probably not going to get a serious study unless it is unusual in some way, and sure enough there are no significant studies on the object, although there are a few web sites. Being an active Seyfert 2 galaxy isn't enough to make it notable. I don't see a list page where it could be redirected. Praemonitus (talk) 20:53, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Comment. The IC is a supplement of the New General Catalogue, and is therefore of similar historical importance. Ships & Space_(Edits) 20:31, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

This isn't enough to establish notability. Not all NGC objects are notable, let alone IC objects. C messier (talk) 11:05, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

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Yatra: A Musical Vlog

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The subject lacks substantial coverage in third-party reliable sources, and there is insufficient evidence to meet WP:NFILM. GSS ^💬 15:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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List of NX Files characters

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There are no sources covering these characters, let alone as a group. I think its parent article NX Files isn't notable either, so redirecting should not be considered. Neocorelight (Talk) 14:47, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete - Like the nom also mentioned, I'm not finding anything to indicate that the actual NX Files itself is notable, let alone this unsourced list of characters. Rorshacma (talk) 15:15, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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Michael Lord (music)

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The article has a promotional feel. I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject (or, frankly, any coverage). There is a reference in the article, but it's just album liner notes. toweli (talk) 13:54, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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• speedy delete as a copyvio of [[23]]. The promotional reek of this article about a nn musician is exolained.TheLongTone (talk) 14:12, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 00:49, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Ion Exchange (India) Ltd

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fails WNCORP , no sufficient reliable sources, nor general notability BoraVoro (talk) 10:51, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

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Hi, I am ready to update the article based on your suggestions. Please let me know what changes are required on the page Akhare 2024 (talk) 16:32, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi, I have added some more citations to the page Akhare 2024 (talk) 05:56, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

• Delete fails WNCORP. Bakhtar40 (talk) 16:42, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

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I have recently updated the article with citations, is it ok to close this discussion and remove the notice from the article? Akhare 2024 (talk) 17:18, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

• Delete, more sources were added but none of them are sufficient to meet WP:NCORP. I can't find any independent sources that provide in-depth coverage. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 19:07, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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Bandhan Mutual Fund

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Trivial coverage according to WP:ORGTRIV. Citations are collections of paid news which are highly pervasive and deeply integrated practice within Indian news media WP:NEWSORGINDIA. The primary issue arises from the editor's attempt to pass off two financial products (exchange traded funds), namely BANDHAN S&P BSE SENSEX ETF (BSE:540154) and BANDHAN NIFTY 50 ETF (NSE:IDFNIFTYYET), as company's own stock market listings, which they are not, thereby failing to adhere to WP:LISTED. A comparable effort was observed in the AFD discussion of Aditya Birla Sun Life Insurance, wherein the company tried to be part of NIFTY 50 without proper validation. In a nutshell, the company falls short when it comes to meeting WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH, WP:ORGIND. To put it mildly, they couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with a banjo and their depth is about as shallow as a puddle in the Sahara. TCBT1CSI (talk) 12:24, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

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Universidad Del Pacífico – Ecuador

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This article has been erased several times on Spanish Wikipedia (and is nor creation protected) for repeated efforts to promotionally recreate it. This suggests serious WP:PROMO risk. In addition, the sources here aren't notable, all are either WP:ROUTINE, or lacking WP:DEPTH. Allan Nonymous (talk) 13:13, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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The Universidad Del Pacífico – Ecuador article deserves to remain on Wikipedia because it contributes to the encyclopedia's mission of providing comprehensive information about educational institutions around the world

Misunderstanding of notability: The repeated deletion attempts might be due to a misunderstanding of the university's notability. We should strive to improve articles with proper sources rather than deletion.

Improve the sources: If the sources used previously were not notable, we can find alternative sources that meet Wikipedia's criteria. There are plenty of reputable Ecuadorian news outlets about the university's achievements, programs, or events, even though most of these would be reptitive and not part of an encyclopedic entry.

Scholarly articles, news coverage, and government websites can be good starting points for finding reliable sources.

Comprehensiveness of Wikipedia: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that strives to be comprehensive. Deleting an article about a university in Ecuador limits the information available to users about higher education in the country. The following List of universities in Ecuador used to include articles for each of the accredited institutions in the country. As of April 29th 2024 it seems that most of these articles have been deleted.

Notability

In general, most legitimate colleges and universities are notable and should be included on Wikipedia. For notability of sub-articles, see relevant advice below. ... It is also important to bear in mind that anyone can set up an institution and call it a "college" or, in many countries, a "university", so that it is essential to be clear whether an institution warrants inclusion in Wikipedia based on that institution's use of these terms.

Government websites listing UPACIFICO and other universities as an accredited institution or mentioning its programs. Were part of the article prior to edits on April 29 2024.

Enhancing the Article's Quality:

A collective effort can be made to find and add high-quality sources that meet Wikipedia's notability criteria. Despite this information being deleted because it was in "ugly tables"The article's content can be expanded to include information about the university's: History and mission Academic programs and faculty expertise Research activities and achievements Student life and campus facilities Accreditation status

Addressing Promotional Concerns:

We can collaborate to ensure the article presents a neutral and objective viewpoint. Promotional language can be replaced with factual descriptions of the university's academics, research, and student life. Editors can focus on providing verifiable information about the university's history, faculty, programs, and accreditation status.

With regards to the concern regarding repeated promotional recreation on the Spanish Wikipedia, this shouldn't automatically lead to deletion on the English version as the translation of this article into spanish does automatically reflect the existance of the article in wikipedia.es. The editing communities on each language version have some autonomy.

Independent Efforts: I translated the article into Spanish, demonstrating it wasn't a mere copy-paste attempt. Additionally, you mentioned finding the article created by other editors, further suggesting independent interest in the university. In my last edit on the Spanish Wikipedia my edit focused on adding a recognition which I had added to wikipedia.en, not promotional language, this led to the pages deletion, and blocking of my wikipedia.es account. Let me reiterate that wikipedia.es has a delitionist policy rather than a broader inclusionist perspective regarding knowledge.

Inconsistent Treatment: If you check [Universidades de Ecuador] All universities in Ecuador have entries on the Spanish Wikipedia. The Universidad Del Pacífico – Ecuador which has been deleted (and now reroutes to the English entry) seems inconsistent with this practice.

Proposal for Moving Forward:

Perhaps a communication channel can be established between the Spanish and English Wikipedia editors to discuss the university and ensure consistent treatment. I am more than willing to translate the Univerity entries in Spanish back into English in order to once again have a List of universities in Ecuador with entries to the different Universtites.

HarveyPrototype (talk) 17:05, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

SV Vesta Stadion

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Fails WP:NSTADIUM, fails WP:GNG, no WP:RS available. Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 13:07, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete, tried finding some substance when I saw it in the prod feed. Geschichte (talk) 14:39, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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2023–24 Porsche Carrera Cup Middle East

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Reviewed during NPP. Stats-only article for a season with no sources other than themselves about a series which doesn't have an article. GNG sourcing of the season per se is unfindable and unlikely to exist. The series itself would probably be a good topic for an article. But there is nothing here to move to it. North8000 (talk) 13:05, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Comment. The series are new. I'm guessing an offshoot of the Porsche Carrera Cup Germany? The lack of sources is dire, but are you sure none of this was written about? Geschichte (talk) 21:00, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

First to reinforce, this article is not about the series, it's stats for 1 season of the series. There is no article for the series. On your question, I'm never sure that something doesn't exist but I looked and couldn't find any real coverage of the season, much less GNG coverage. North8000 (talk) 00:01, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Ellicott Dredges

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It exists, but I don't think it has the significance or coverage to meet N. Boleyn (talk) 12:19, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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Rebecca Egan

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Sources are mainly mentions within sources about her mum, and notability is not inherited. The series she has been in are notorious for being series that every British actor has been in. I couldn't find enough to show she meets NACTOR or GNG. Considered merge/redirect to mother's article as ATD, but not convinced that would be helpful. Boleyn (talk) 12:17, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

• Delete could not find any wp:sigcov, named only in mother's obituary with no mention of her profession. Orange sticker (talk) 12:48, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
• Delete- fails GNG.TheLongTone (talk) 14:53, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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The result was snow keep‎. The article is now well-referenced and compelling evidence for notability has been provided by multiple editors. Closing early as the outcome seems unavoidable. (non-admin closure) gobonobo ^{+ c} 07:17, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

ATLAS of Finite Groups

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I couldn't establish that this meets WP:NBOOK / WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 12:14, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

See also: Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(books) § Does_this_page_need_more_criteria_for_science_books?

• Comment: I'm the author of this article (under the handle Gro-Tsen, which I've lost access to for technical reason which are beside the matter here), so although I've stopped contributing to Wikipedia for anything other than trivial corrections, I feel I should say a word. First, this AfD nomination exactly exemplifies the reason why I've stopped contributing: namely, that all processes are buried in bureaucratic procedures of extraordinary complexity and rigidity (a system which effectively gives far too much power to those people who have the time for these procedures rather than actually writing articles). To merely contribute to the discussion one is supposed to read a 5000+ word long page which in the end still doesn't tell me how I'm supposed to write and format a comment like this and I'm probably doing it wrong.

Anyway.

The notability criteria for books are insane in my mind because they are clearly written by people who had absolutely not thought about the very existence of science books: the criterion “the book has been considered by reliable sources to have made a significant contribution to a notable or significant motion picture, or other art form, or event or political or religious movement” for example, clearly fails to take into account the possibility that the book made a significant contribution to a scientific field (the words “science” or “scientific” don't even appear in the criteria), which is the case here. So, no, the book is not notable, as far as I can tell, under the kafkaesque criteria as they stand.

However, disregarding these criteria, if anyone cares about the reason why this book should be considered notable, in my mind (and why I thought it was necessary to start an article about it), they are as follows:

(1) The ATLAS isn't just a book about finite groups, it's profoundly intertwined with the history of the Classification of finite simple groups. This is for example witnessed by the fact that Mark Ronan's 2006 book Symmetry and the Monster (a popular science book about said classification and its history) devotes an entire chapter (chapter 14) to the ATLAS, its history and its importance in the general story of the Classification.

(2) Specifically, the ATLAS was the first to contain the character table of the Monster group (and possibly also the Baby Monster) before the group was even known to exist.

(3) The ATLAS isn't just a book, it's also an indispensable scientific tool, which is the reason why it has now been extended to a web site and a package of the GAP software.

(4) The ATLAS poses a particular epistemological problem to mathematicians as it contains the result of computations which have not been published, so relying on it in proofs is problematic. See this MathOverflow question for discussion about this. So entire scientific papers are devoted to trying to do without the ATLAS or to the question of how to reproduce its information. For example, this paper (published in Contemporary Mathematics) is specifically devoted to the question of checking the contents of the ATLAS.

(5) The ATLAS is extraordinarily famous and influential in the field of finite groups. Asking a group theorist whether they know the ATLAS is similar to asking a biologist whether they know the Origin of Species. I don't have direct evidence for this, but the first paragraph of the paper mentioned in the previous point quotes Jean-Pierre Serre as saying that he “can’t think of any other book published in the last 50 years which had such an impact”.

(6) Merely as a physical object, the ATLAS is remarkable for its size and format.

Now I won't be contributing any further to this discussion because, again, the tediousness of having to do this kind of bureaucratic justification is exactly what drove me away from Wikipedia. But please feel free to either ignore or else reuse the above facts (and, if the consensus is to keep the article, incorporate them in its content).

-- 2001:41D0:FE6F:4800:0:0:0:1 (talk) 13:32, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Keep based on the existence of two book-length volumes dedicated to the book - one in 1995 and one in 2015, both of which are now cited in the article. Guidelines say to consider how influential a book has been in its area, and even as a person unfamiliar with the topic I can tell from the quality of google scholar results that this is a book for people have reverence. So I appreciate you putting this in context, and I think the two results will illustrate its impact but any additional cites talking about its influence could help sway fence-sitters. Oblivy (talk) 15:26, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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  Everything that Gro-Tsen writes here is one hundred procent true. "The Atlas" is well known among mathematicians and absolutely central in the finite groups community. It is also rather unique. One should understand that finite groups, and more particularly the classification of finite groups is one of the central problems in mathematics. The quote from Jean Pierre Serre is spot on, and Serre is an extremely highly regarded Abel prize winning mathematician.

  There is absolutely no reason to delete the article on this book, and in fact I whole heartedly agree with him that being a highly influential scientific work, is clearly an excellent criterion for being a notable book.

  Put it in other way: Conway's Game of Life has a Wikipedia Article. As fun and well known as it is, the Atlas towers well above the Game of Life in his achievements. RogierBrussee (talk) 14:16, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

• Keep, highly notable work in the field of group theory. Google Scholar is not great for turning up contemporary scholarly reviews from the 1980s, but here are three: [24], [25], [26]. It's discussed at length in Siobhan Roberts's biography of Conway, and it was the subject of conferences and their proceedings in 1998 and 2015. Jfire (talk) 15:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

  Here's a fourth contemporary review: [27]. XOR'easter (talk) 23:11, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

• Keep -- Meets WP:NBOOK criterion #5 due to being co-written by John Horton Conway, certainly one of the top mathematicians of the 20th/21st Centuries, and likely longer than that. Central and Adams (talk) 15:56, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
• Keep. Obviously notable. --Zundark (talk) 16:58, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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• Keep thanks to Oblivy's improvement, adding citations and fulfilling WP:HEY. Apologies to Gro-Tsen for being Kafkaesque. Toughpigs (talk) 19:39, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
• Keep One of the most noteworthy pure-mathematics books of the 20th century, cited in excess of 6,000 times [28]. Yes, it deserves a Wikipedia article. XOR'easter (talk) 21:58, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
• Keep: More than enough coverage above to meet WP:NBOOK. Another review can be found here. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 00:24, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
• Keep (obviously). Is it WP:SNOWing? - CRGreathouse (t | c) 04:18, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
• Keep. The classification of groups was one of the great math projects, if not the greatest, in the 20th century. (I'm almost surely mis-remembering, but perhaps a thousand mathematicians were involved, and it took 50-odd years of work. Of course, this is not all captured in these books, but its... really I don't know the history, but its some kind of wild mega-project like this.) 67.198.37.16 (talk) 04:43, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

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Daniel Butler (Irish politician)

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Last week I’d proposed this article for deletion. In the time since, some attempt has been made to demonstrate notability. However, I’d argue that he still fails notability under WP:POLITICIAN. The references added show no more than would be the case for anyone who happened to by mayor or cathaoirleach of a council (local coverage of their election, welcoming reports, expressing condolences), but none of which amounts to WP:SIGCOV of the individual themselves. A WP:BEFORE search of "Daniel Butler Limerick" returned only similar information. Iveagh Gardens (talk) 11:31, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom, WP:NPOL and WP:SIGCOV. Or, failing that, redirect to Mayor of Limerick (as an AtD). In terms of NPOL, the role of chair/mayor of Limerick council isn't an "international, national, or (for countries with federal or similar systems of government) state/province–wide office". In terms of SIGCOV, the only sources in the article (and seemingly available) represent the same type of coverage that we might expect for ANY local councillor or political candidate. The sources and coverage, for example, which were added alongside the dePROD, are either the very definition of trivial passing mentions or mentions in coverage of activities (like opening books of condolence) that anyone in the same job would have undertaken (ie: coverage relevant to the role rather than the biographical subject). Except for the fact that this subject is a candidate for the planned/upcoming 2024 Limerick mayoral election, there is nothing material to differentiate the subject from other councillors/candidates. Neither role affording inherent notability (and candidates for office also not being inherently notable).... Guliolopez (talk) 12:23, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

  Comment I've not sure how necessary it is to consider ATD here. The article was published relatively recently, so I doubt there are many external links pointing here. I don't think we'd consider redirects for all the other mayors of Limerick who don't have articles. Iveagh Gardens (talk) 17:12, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom, fails WP:NPOL. A local politician who gets the usual mentions in the local news. Spleodrach (talk) 12:48, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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• Delete it is the third-most populous region in Ireland, so I think it would be easier to show he has outsize influence for his role, but that is not the case yet here. SportingFlyer T·C 04:31, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

List of sports television composers

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Not that all but one is entirely unsourced but WP:LISTCRUFT sums it all up. Virtually all of those bluelinked are not specific to sports broadcastings; for example, a bulk of John Williams' fame was from movie composing. Are we going to every film and TV composers who worked on the Olympics too. Are we going to list Emerson, Lake & Palmer (Fanfare for the Common Man) and Fleetwood Mac (The Chain) too? I cannot see this passing WP:NLIST too. SpacedFarmer (talk) 10:12, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete It's nothing but trivia. Conyo14 (talk) 19:30, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Systogram

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The author of this article appears to have created it merely to plug his own creation ("Jack Dikian invented the concept of the systogram..."). However, of all the references in the article, none appear to actually refer to a "systogram" apart from those authored by Dikian. So I can only suppose that the concept is not-notable and the article was created only for self-promotion. Black Kite (talk) 09:57, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Delete. The article creator edits practically only to promote himself, this article is nothing more than advertising for himself. GraziePrego (talk) 10:03, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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Delete nothing I can say that the original nom hasn't already said better. Allan Nonymous (talk) 16:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Kelly Tshibaka

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Per Talk:Kelly Tshibaka#Notability 2, I do not believe this unsuccessful political candidate is notable. Despite being well sourced at a casual glance, most of the 30+ references are related to the election, and in many cases focus on the eventual winner, with Tshibaka only mentioned as an opponent. Even if this was a particularly contentious or notable election, WP:ONEEVENT would dictate the content is better merged into the election article. Of the non-election references, only one is actually about the subject (appointment to Commissioner's office). The rest just have trivial mentions where the subject has been quoted as a government official in relation to the primary topic. We don't have articles for every local government commissioner just because they occasionally get quoted in Press (and indeed, neither her predecessors nor successors have articles). This article was created around the time of the election campaign and seems like it was probably created as part of the campaign. There is no suggestion of notability prior to subject's unsuccessful election campaign. Fails WP:Politician (not a politician), WP:Bio and WP:Sustained. Hemmers (talk) 09:37, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Speedy Keep. There’s plenty here, and I just added a new section about her career following campaign. Anythingyouwant (talk) 16:35, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

  Saying "there's plenty there" doesn't confer notability. I can write full length articles going into excruciating detail about local politics using local news. I can write articles about local sports clubs using 150years of local media reporting of results and prize-givings. Literally hundreds of references. There's plenty there... but that doesn't mean those people or organisations meet GNG. And that's the thing. There isn't that much there. It's overwhelmingly WP:ONEEVENT about her unsuccessful election campaign, or else trivial mentions. Hemmers (talk) 08:10, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

• Delete She's not really notable outside her campaign loss, can be redirected to the campaign page. The new section is just a sentence that would not grant her notability if she hadn't run. SportingFlyer T·C 04:32, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

List of J-pop concerts held outside Asia

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WP:TRIVIA ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:09, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of K-pop concerts held outside Asia, per below. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Comment. Wow... that's a huge body of work. The list feels strongly in WP:NOT territory. The lede is irrelevant to the topic of concerts, and the list thus lacks an explanation of why this is a relevant list. It's certainly not because such concerts are rare. The listed concerts are certainly vastly different in size too. Also, if the idea is to handle Japanese penetration of other music markets, why limit it to J-pop and exclude J-rock, metal etc.? Why even limit it to non-Asian countries, seeing as a concert in Lebanon would be just as "exotic" as one in Cyprus? Geschichte (talk) 14:44, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

  Hi, guys! Just to point out that, although the name of the list "List of J-pop concerts held outside Asia", it lists concerts by bands of any music style, such as j-rock and metal. As to why limit to non-Asian countries, I do not know why, but I did contribute substantially to the article and I feel it is important to have records of the outreach of these bands. Maybe it's just the fan in me and I'm overstepping WP boundaries. Macacaosapao (talk) 01:43, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Comment. I'm indifferent to whether the article should be kept or deleted (though the latter would save me a buttload of work), but I'd like to point out there is a similar article titled List of K-pop concerts held outside Asia, for which this discussion should also apply.DragonFury (talk) 15:04, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

A Quick Shave and Brush-up

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No evidence that this is a notable film. Can be redirected to George Albert Smith (filmmaker)#Selected filmography. Fram (talk) 07:53, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Maybe merge all these old ones into 1900 in film? Hyperbolick (talk) 08:34, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect to George Albert Smith (filmmaker)#Selected filmography: As I mentioned in my ES/ in the OLDPROD template on article TP/ when I Dpdd the article (and on creator's TP). Not opposed to K. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:57, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

  Actually, it seems that you didn't mention this in this case (you did mention a redirect target in some others though). Fram (talk) 13:30, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

  Let me check. Not in my ES, that's right. But please have a look at the OLPROD template on article TP. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 13:38, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

  Ah, hadn't seen that. First time I see someone adding extra info there (not saying that's a bad thing, just something I didn't expect). Fram (talk) 13:54, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

A Wreck in a Gale

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No evidence that this 43-second film is notable, hasn't received significant attention. No good redirect target found. Fram (talk) 07:47, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep: Meets WP:NFILM as I mentioned in my edit summary when I "PROD-conned" it. See the guideline. Shown at festival more than 5 years after production. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
  • That line in NFILM gives only a presumption which needs to be supported by reliable sources indicating that it meets WP:GNG. A screening on a niche festival which shows more than 500 such rediscoveries each year is hardly a clear indication of importance, more of being a curio of passing interest. Fram (talk) 13:01, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

    Thank you for sharing your opinion. I'll stand by my Keep, if you allow me, as I find this short clearly does meet the inclusionary criteria (not only a "line"), which is quite clear. It also proves, btw, that this short has received the "significant attention" you mentioned in your rationale. What you call a "niche festival" has indeed been a very important film event for almost 40 years. You are free to call this "a curio of passing interest" but the film has been screened at a very notable festival (much) more than 5 years after its production and that is, I'm afraid, a fact. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 13:17, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

• Delete. N:FILM says "meeting these criteria is not an absolute guarantee that Wikipedia should have a separate, stand-alone article entirely dedicated to the film," and that is true here, where there are no reliable sources to describe the notability of this film beyond its mere existence. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:27, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Scenes on Mr. Smit's Ostrich Farm

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No evidence of notability for this 2 minute film, just included in some websites but without significant attention (e.g. this or this). No obvious redirect target found, if there is one then redirecting is of course acceptable. Fram (talk) 07:45, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Redirect to Joseph Rosenthal (camera operator): Which is an obvious R target, as I mentioned in my ES when DPD the page and on creator's TP. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:59, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Ladysmith – Naval Brigade Dragging 4.7 Guns into Ladysmith

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No indication that this is a notable film (well, a 31 second static shot). Apparently not only have we no idea who actually made it (just the producre), but we also don't know what is being shown according to this. Perhaps some list for this and many similar non-notable shorts may be feasible, but at the moment I don't see a good redirect target. Perhaps William Kennedy Dickson filmography, which gives an idea of the number of such ultrashort films that were made (and is clearly incomplete, as e.g. this very one isn't on that list). Fram (talk) 07:42, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Redirect to William Kennedy Dickson filmography: As I mentioned when I DPd the page (and on creator's TP) -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:56, 29 April 2024 (UTC) (Entry is now in the target; sources can be added if R is the path chosen)

The Dalek Generation

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Fails WPNBOOK Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 06:15, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep I see no reason why not Sansbarry (talk) 01:05, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

  How bout the fact that almost everything is unsourced? Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 03:15, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Touched by an Angel (novel)

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Fails WP:NBOOK Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 06:13, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep but needs edits and citations, especially the release info Sansbarry (talk) 01:04, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

  Find those sources and then vote keep. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 03:15, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Stewart Shining

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I am nominating this article for deletion due to significant concerns regarding its notability and the reliability of its sources. Despite attempts to engage the community for improvements, the article suffers from critical issues as outlined below:

Broken Links or Unavailable Sources: The article relies heavily on sources that are either broken or inaccessible, undermining the verification process. Key examples include:

Sports Illustrated cover, 2001 (link) - broken. "Phuket, Thailand, October 2000" by The Advocate, HighBeam Research, Inc., February 3, 2004 - inaccessible. "By Stewart Shining, for Time Out (February 1996)" from natalieportman.com - archived and unavailable. Other broken or archived sources include links from People Magazine, Rolling Stone, and celebrians.com covering various photo shoots and articles from 1996 through 2008.

Links That Do Not Verify Notability or Credibility: Several sources mention Shining's work but do not provide substantive discussion of his role or influence, failing to establish his notability. This includes articles like "Goddess of the Mediterranean" from CNN/Sports Illustrated and various brief mentions in Rolling Stone that do not analyze his impact in the field.

Overreliance on Primary Sources: The article predominantly uses primary sources, such as stewartshining.com and celebrians.com, which may introduce bias. These sources largely showcase the subject’s work without any critical analysis or third-party perspective, failing to meet the standards for reliable, independent verification of content. Misrepresentation of Roles or Inaccurate Information: The article includes claims not supported by reliable secondary sources, such as the subject's alleged significant roles with non-profits and major editorial contributions. For instance, a Wall Street Journal article titled "New Optimism for AIDS Activist" and information from Photo District News do not confirm his reported roles, creating potential misinformation.

Given the extensive reliance on problematic sources, combined with a significant lack of independent and reliable secondary coverage, the subject's notability cannot be adequately verified. Therefore, I recommend a discussion on whether this article should be retained, heavily edited, or deleted in accordance with Wikipedia's content policies and guidelines.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mitsoukorussie (talk • contribs) 05:01, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep. Offline sources are just as valid as online ones, and InternetArchiveBot (talk · contribs · count) was able to find archived versions of many of the previous broken links. See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1221337540 Eastmain (talk • contribs) 09:53, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
• Keep he is a notable photographer and has contributed to multiple notable publications. We don't delete articles because of dead links or offline sources. The WSJ article and the Rapid City Journal articles provide significant coverage about him and provide biographical details about his life. Isaidnoway (talk) 15:03, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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• Keep -- The sources already in the article much, much more than satisfy the GNG. Extraordinarily misguided nomination. Central and Adams (talk) 15:59, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

KYNM-CD

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 03:56, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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KTVS-LD

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 03:54, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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KQDF-LD

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 03:52, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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KNMQ-LD

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 03:52, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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Rick Jay Glen

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No sources at all, lacks notability, extreme amounts of fluff - looks very much like just a self-promo page. Hornpipe2 (talk) 03:50, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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(comment) having some doubts over whether the IPv6 editor, and also the user "rickory", have a conflict of interest going on with this Hornpipe2 (talk) 06:39, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Wilson, Indiana

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Here we have a puzzle. There are two data implying that this a rail point. First, the label starts out right next to the tracks before drifting south on more recent maps, towards a string of houses on Rt. 60. Second, GMaps informs us that the name of the road that crosses the tracks at this point is named "Wilson Switch Rd." Against this I have, well, nothing, because searching is pretty much hopeless. The question is whether that string of houses is now known as Wilson or not, and here I draw a blank. Mangoe (talk) 03:25, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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• This is an interesting one, partly because there seem to be multiple names associated with the same location. A 1908 map identifies the settlement as "Dallas", while others like this plat map show it as "Wilson". (An 1875 map gives it as "Wilson Station" and notes an accompanying mill.) When time permits I'll aim to check the local histories in more detail, but the fact that it's been consistently present on area maps for the last 150 years suggests it was at one point an actual settlement, so for now I think it's best to keep it. ╠╣uw [talk] 09:53, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Searching for just Wilson got me nowhere, so I tried Wilson Switch, and I got some interesting results. A 1973 story about sales tax called Wilson Switch a community of 300, but this 1991 story about the local landfill just refers to the locals as "Wilson Switch Road residents", as do later stories about landfill projects. Earlier mentions of Wilson Switch were mostly about car accidents or railway incidents in the area, which doesn't clarify much. Wilson is still on the latest Indiana state highway map, though I don't know how thorough Indiana is about vetting small communities. Not sure which way I lean on this one. TheCatalyst31 ^{Reaction•Creation} 01:11, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

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The result was speedy keep‎. Withdrawn by nominator. (non-admin closure) Aintabli (talk) 21:16, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Woman in the Moon (album)

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Non-notable album, fails WP:NALBUM. Complete absence of in-depth discussion of the album in reliable sources. Brett Milano of New Country magazine is cited, but that was a short-lived marketing effort for the purpose of promoting new country music. In no way would that magazine be considered independent. Note that AllMusic does not have a prose review by a named author. Binksternet (talk) 03:25, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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Atlus USA

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Reads like a video game essay, insufficient standalone notability. Only source I found that might have sufficient coverage is the Game Informer one, suggesting merger with Atlus. IgelRM (talk) 02:07, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep: Seems quite notable, cites over 77 sources, many of which are secondary. I will note that if language is an issue, just tag it. thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 02:18, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

  I could have tagged for style but generally interviews, which are a large part of the sources, don't give sufficient notability. IgelRM (talk) 17:32, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

• Keep: A fairly in-depth article that explains its significance outside of the parent company; several dozen hits when looking at a cursory Google Books search. I do not see a strong reason to delete. Why? I Ask (talk) 02:51, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

  I am assuming you are referring to "notable in its localization approach in preserving as much of the original", but I struggle to find a notable source for that and mentioned Game Informer article doesn't say it. It would help me if you could pick an example book with significant coverage. IgelRM (talk) 17:53, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

• Keep Neutral: I know I'm biased, and if things go another way I'll accept the decision. If style and writing is the issue, then it needs a rewrite. Or maybe trimming down in places like that huge game list. --ProtoDrake (talk) 06:57, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

  (Biased means article creator here for outsiders) It only makes sense to rewrite if it is notable. The game list seems fine although ideally it should be sourced and maybe spun-out to a separate page. IgelRM (talk) 18:02, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Comment: Somewhat off-topic but the name in the lead was changed from "USA to "West" (as well as on the Atlus article), which does not appear to an official name. IgelRM (talk) 18:27, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

• Can the keep editors give WP:THREE for those of us who don't want to slog through 77 (!) references? -- asilvering (talk) 05:08, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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The result was Speedy delete as G5. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:56, 30 April 2024 (UTC)‎

Lil' Cory

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Non-notable rapper / actor. All the sourcing is from unreliable sources, or simply not usable for establishing notability. This has been insistently placed in mainspace after previously being draftified so taking this to AFD. Whpq (talk) 03:14, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

• KEEP Subject has collaborated with other notable persons such as Lil Wayne, Rick Ross, Gucci Mane, Rittz, Blueface as well as an actor on Star Trek: Picard and Reservation Dogs. Subject was also nominated for a Native American Music Award Wolfvillage (talk) 04:16, 29 April 2024 (UTC) Subject has also played on television shows such as Reservation Dogs and Star Trek: Picard.Collider - (Award Winning News Company Collider) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wolfvillage (talk • contribs) 03:45, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

• DELETE as was stated in my decline notices none of the sources provide any sort of significant coverage or any indication of notability either in WP:NMUSIC or WP:GNG. Notability is not inherited through others. McMatter ^(talk)/_(contrib) 03:42, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

  Collider.com Wolfvillage (talk) 03:51, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

  They were merely mentioned as a cast member absolutely no detail was given in that source, therefore it does nothing towards notability. It only confirms they made an appearance at some point on the show which does not indicate any sort of notability. McMatter ^(talk)/_(contrib) 03:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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Native American Music Awards Wolfvillage (talk) 03:54, 29 April 2024 (UTC) Cameo.com Wolfvillage (talk) 03:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC) Lil Cory On "All Night Nippon Japanese Show Wolfvillage (talk) 04:03, 29 April 2024 (UTC) AllMusic "Echota Yoda" (Featuring Lil Wayne TVGuide Lil Cory Featuring Blueface I found these sources which speak on the subjects major collaborative projects with notable persons such as Lil Wayne, Gucci Mane, 2 Chainz and others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wolfvillage (talk • contribs) 04:19, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete Fails WP:NMUSIC and article created by a blocked sock. Non-notable rapper with no chart activity, and filmography is mainly uncredited bit parts. Sources are awful (Bsapr, IMDb and a bio on Amazon) while Collider mention is a blip at the very bottom. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 21:05, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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Perth Corporate Rumble

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Primarily worked on by a single purpose editor. Only 1 article links to this. Full of non notable participants and just a results listing. Only coverage seems to be in Perthnow. but fails WP:SPORTSEVENT. LibStar (talk) 03:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete Promotional article on a non-notable event sourced with only local coverage. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 20:56, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Dessert pizza

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Not a common misnomer for either of the pages it links to. thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 02:51, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep. I get over a million ghits for "dessert pizza", [29] (your results may vary) so it's a common name for something. There's room for expansion but this is at least a start, and will get readers to what little information we do have. Help expanding to an article, or adding articles perhaps on choc chip pizza, apple dessert pizza or raspberry dessert pizza welcome. Alternatively I can reformat it as a stub, but a DAB seemed more appropriate at this stage as we do have information which might otherwise be missed. Andrewa (talk) 08:02, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
• Keep per Andrewa. Hyperbolick (talk) 08:36, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
• Keep per Andrewa. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:27, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect to Pizza after creating a section there for sweet pizzas. There is no mention on that page of "chocolate" or "fruit", as yet, not even a "See also". There should be a section on sweet/dessert pizzas (however sacrilegious they may be considered) in that main Pizza article. PamD 12:37, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect to Pizza per PamD. "Dessert pizza" is a wildly diverse concept where you can get creative with your favorite dessert and favorite pizza style, not something you can really have a cohesive article on – the links above are just food bloggers' recipes, not reliable sources that discuss the topic as a whole and could be used here. I like how there's a whole section at Fruit_pizza#Controversy saying that the only resemblance it has to pizza is the round shape (recipes there being more of a topped Cookie cake). Alternatively, Chocolate pizza could be moved and formatted to cover multiple dessert-type toppings, but I don't think there should be a third article in this space just because you can make an apple pie or raspberry pie on a pizza crust instead of a pie crust (the recipes above would fit into these extant pages anyway!). Reywas92^Talk 15:54, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect per above. I'm hesitant to say the article could be kept as it is simply a navigational page for two types of dessert pizza. Instead, the section in Pizza I think satisfies this quite well. Conyo14 (talk) 22:06, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect to pizza. I would make a joke about how every pizza can be a dessert pizza, but I'm above that. With that said, there is an obvious future target in the main article about such a thing, and this title should lead there. LilianaUwU ^{(talk / contributions)} 05:40, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

List of movie theaters

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This appears to be an underinclusive and unnecessary duplication of Category:Cinemas and movie theaters by country, which includes many more theaters which are not on this list. I don't believe this page is particularly useful as a stand-alone list. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:46, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete. This is an absurdly incomplete list. Taking France as an example, the creator seems to think that Paris is all there is in France, unaware that the oldest cinema still in operation after 125 years, is in La Ciotat (https://edencinemalaciotat.com/le-plus-ancien-cinema-du-monde/). Similar problems apply in other countries, for example Chile, which apparently has just one cinema, though I saw Jurassic Park and The Color Purple in two different ones. Even if the list was made complete it would still be pointless. Athel cb (talk) 15:47, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
  • This is obviously only a list of notable movie theaters that have articles because they are historic or otherwise significant, which is a typical criterion for SALs. It needs some clean-up and is likely missing many, but I don't think we have an article on the oldest theater in La Ciotat so of course it's not on here. Reywas92^Talk 16:22, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

    OK. I failed to notice the qualification "notable enough for Wikipedia articles," but it's still a ridiculous list. You are right that there is no "article on the oldest theater in La Ciotat", but there damn well should be. Athel cb (talk) 16:43, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

    Perhaps you could make it? Then we should consider how List of oldest cinemas is not an article, but certainly notable. Conyo14 (talk) 22:11, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

• Keep and improve. With some work and dedication it has the potential to be an informative list of historical/notable theaters. Archives908 (talk) 01:55, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Beast poetry

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Completely unsourced barring quotes. No indication of importance. DrowssapSMM 02:18, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep in one form or another. It may be the case that Ziolkowski is in fact the first/primary/only scholar to use the term "beast poetry" specifically. However, he seems to be influential in the field. Talking Animals: Medieval Latin Beast Poetry, 750-1150 has 180+ citation in Google Scholar and numerous reviews ([30], [31], [32], [33], [34], [35]). One option could be to re-frame the article to be about the book. The Princeton Encyclopedia of Poetry and Poetics cites Ziolkowski in the entry on Beast epic, so if nothing else we could merge there. But I'm inclined to keep given that it seems to be an accepted scholarly genre. Jfire (talk) 02:50, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
• Keep or draftify, convinced by Jfire. Hyperbolick (talk) 08:55, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
• Comment a search under “bestiary poetry” or “poetic bestiary” suggests the topic is notable, and one of these terms might serve as an alternative title. Mccapra (talk) 18:29, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

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Slatecut, Indiana

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Another post office back entered to GNIS from the 1876 state atlas: at least that's what Baird says, and given that it seems to be a nondescript rail point, I can believe that. Mangoe (talk) 02:14, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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2022 Russian Aerospace Forces Antonov An-26 crash

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Fails GNG and EVENTCRIT. Per WP:NOTNEWS. No evidence of lasting effects. No recent news on the topic so fails both CONTINUEDCOVERAGE and WP:SUSTAINED. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 07:07, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Weak keep The crash catches my attention because it it doesn't sound like a "normal" accident. To me it sounds the plane was shot out of the sky or blown up either accidentally or on purpose. Anyway, both ways, that would make it plausible that Russia tries to cover it up. Due to the contoversies and because I think it would be a shame if this information would be lost, I vote Weak keep. 82.174.61.58 (talk) 08:44, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

  If the plane were shot down, then the accident doesn't exactly warrant an article as it has already been mentioned in: List of aircraft losses during the Russo-Ukrainian War and List of Russian military accidents.

  Even then, the fact that there hasn't been any news related to this accident since 2022 already fails, as I've said, WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE and WP:SUSTAINED.

  The event fails WP:INDEPTH and WP:DIVERSE as most sources were covered by russian media outlets and didn't receive significant or in-depth coverage to be considered notable. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 15:45, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

  And the argument on losing the information is pretty weak per WP:LOSE as this article already fails multiple guidelines. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 15:53, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

  In that case, instead of deleting: merge and redirect to List of aircraft losses during the Russo-Ukrainian War#Russian aircraft losses might be the best option. I would propose stating there (including removing the current "cashed" typo):

  Registration number RF-36074 crashed in Uryv-Pokrovka, Voronezh Oblast. The aircraft exploded in the air and fell between three villages. Fragments of the wreck scattered of over a large area. According to the Ministry of Defense, the preliminary cause was equipment failure. According to eyewitnesses the cause was possibly a shell hit. All of the undisclosed number of occupants were killed, consisting of crew members and paratroopers. Usually this type of aircraft has six crew members.

  82.174.61.58 (talk) 13:51, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

  I feel like, judging from other entries in the article, that we should follow the same style therefore I would suggest keeping the entry as it is:

  
  

  Registration number RF-36074 cashed in Voronezh Oblast, killing an undisclosed number of occupants. Allegedly caused by a technical malfunction. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 14:19, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

  I think a non-established style should never be regarded as more important than the quality of the prose or an inhibition of content. Note the current Russian state owned Tass source has an interest and might be unreliable. The sources I use are more journalistic and not one-sided. (And what I said, don’t keep the typo :) ) 82.174.61.58 (talk) 16:09, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

  The information is already there and it needs to be kept simple. I do agree with replacing the typo. I'm suggesting the following:

  
  

  Registration RF-36074 crashed in Voronezh Oblast, killing an undisclosed number of occupants. Preliminary reports indicate a technical malfunction.

  Aviationwikiflight (talk) 14:53, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Comment I tried to improve the article with these edits. I expanded the article (among others witnesses reports, noted there were paratroopers onboard and the number of crew members) and added an extra source. However, this was reverted by Lachielmao (talk · contribs). 82.174.61.58 (talk) 13:09, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

  To clarify I had no issue with the new content and sources added, but there was speculation used without a source as well as rewriting sections with worse grammar and writing prose. Lachielmao (talk) 00:00, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

  @Lachielmao: I don't understand why you say I added speculations without a source. See here the version after I expanded it. Everything was well referenced. (Bye the way, it sounds ambiguous when you're saying "I had no issue with the new content and sources added" because you removed it.) 82.174.61.58 (talk) 12:48, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

  It would be preferable if you discussed this on the talk page instead of this page as this is a discussion on whether to keep or delete the article, not to talk about whether or not these edits should be included. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 13:32, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

• Merge As per nom, this fails WP:SUSTAINED, and this crash doesn't seem to be any more notable than the many Russian aircraft crashes listed in the List of aircraft losses during the Russo-Ukrainian War that don't have their own article, so we should just merge the basic information about the crash there. Gödel2200 (talk) 14:41, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

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Irish Republican Movement

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Was never notable in the first place, although it had the potential to be at the start. There was a brief flurry of news in relation to a statement they put out, but no sources that covered the organisation in any significant depth. No publicity since that statement at all. Kathleen's bike (talk) 14:01, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep. I think the references already present in the article establish notability. Even if the group is no longer active, "once notable, always notable." I seem to remember someone saying that some of the people in the handout photo that appears in several of the references weren't holding their weapons correctly, implying that this was never a serious group. I can't confirm this, though. Nonetheless, reliable sources have covered this group, which means it's notable. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 14:35, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

• It was never notable, although it had the potential to be if it had actually done anything. But other than releasing a statement, they've done nothing. Kathleen's bike (talk) 14:36, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

• Redirect to Republican movement (Ireland). (And remove from Template:IRAs.) Per nom, the (current) topic/subject of the title (the org which asserted this name) is not notable. And never was. The only coverage suggests that a group(?), giving itself this name, released a statement (maybe two), back in 2019/2020. And that, seemingly, is all. The coverage, of those statements, doesn't meet WP:SIRS. In which the "S" ("S"ignificant) requires "significant coverage addressing the subject of the article directly and in depth". The coverage does NOT cover the subject org in any depth. At all. (For all we know the "group" could have 2 members. If even that.) Guliolopez (talk) 16:18, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

• Keep. The comment above mine makes a great point; once notable, always notable. Even if the group isn't as active as it used to be, there's nothing wrong with keeping it around as it provides insight into the contemporary Dissident movement.

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• Except, as repeatedly pointed out, it was never notable in the first place. A brief flurry of news about a single statement does not meet WP:SUSTAINED. See also guidance at WP:ORGDEPTH, there has to be coverage that "makes it possible to write more than a very brief, incomplete stub about the organization". Kathleen's bike (talk) 16:19, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Redirect to Republican movement (Ireland) - Per the argument put forward by Guliolopez. I agree with Guliolopez and Kathleen's bike that sources (or rather lack of) indicate that this organisation did not ever materialise in reality. While it's supposed founding was touted, it was never actually active. One press release is not enough to justify an article. CeltBrowne (talk) 14:19, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
• Merge to Óglaigh na hÉireann (Real IRA splinter group), where it is already mentioned. I agree that the topic is not standalone notable, but it's better discussed at the article where it splintered from, rather than just redirected to the main article on the republican movement. -- asilvering (talk) 04:18, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

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House of Wisdom for Conflict Resolution & Governance

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Delete or merge into Ahmed Yousef. Fails WP:NORG. Only fleeting mentions of this organization in RS, and an official testifying before the UK Parliament does not establish notability. Longhornsg (talk) 00:46, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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Public infrastructure

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Merge to Infrastructure.Most infrastructure around the world is public.There is no need to create additional article just for public infrastructure. Moreover, the article is not long and the content can be completely covered by Infrastructure.日期20220626 (talk) 00:45, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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Ephraim Israel National Convention

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Absolutely fails GNG. Indeed, "The existence of the party is unclear, the only reference found is at.[1]". Flounder fillet (talk) 18:18, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Comment - I'm unable to find other sources for this party. Looking at the article, stating that EINC would have contested 1999 Lok Sabha election as Independent, this ought to be Rualpawla (see https://www.telegraphindia.com/north-east/jews-want-a-room-to-worship/cid/519407 ), who finished in fourth place with 4,508 votes (1.5%), which isn't too bad and there could presumably be more 1999 print material in local press that never made online. As of 1993 Rualpawla was the BJP state secretary [36]. In 2009 another name of party of Rualpawla appears, Israel National Front, [37], [38], [39]. Presumably this is either the same party or 2 different outfits organized by the same guy. --Soman (talk) 10:48, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

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Sports broadcasting contracts in Canada

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Also, sources are primary sources, nothing but announcements and none of those assert notability. Those arguing for a keep claiming how useful it is, shall be advised to refer to WP:USEFUL. I also advise Fandom for them if they want to save it so much. SpacedFarmer (talk) 14:06, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sports broadcasting contracts in the United States. 162 etc. (talk) 21:52, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

  I cannot see how a bunch of news announcments make a subject notable. Keep? Look at the state of this? Almost everything is unsourced. Tells you the low-quality state of Wikipedia. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:22, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

• Comment, I found [40], [41], and [42], which may help determine notabilty. Esolo5002 (talk) 23:09, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete Fails NLIST no indication this has been discussed as a group, meets LISTCRUFT, there is nothing encyclopedic here.  // Timothy :: talk  22:14, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

St Andrews Typhoons

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Lacking in-depth secondary source coverage to meet the general notability guideline. Seen at NPP, moved to draftspace to allow for improvement but reverted by creator. AusLondonder (talk) 18:13, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

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I didn't realize I reverted an initial draftspace sending, I was just editing over time. What sort of sources should I add to make more credibility? There's only a few sources (university, BUIHA and the team's website) I found out to use. Should I improve in the drafter before releasing or try to expand on the existing page? Fastfads (talk) 18:28, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

They would have to be "significant coverage" to the subject, from secondary sources from multiple reputable media outlets. If such coverage doesn't exist, or consists of simple scores/stats or namedrops, an article cannot be sustained. My vote is to Redirect to the University of St Andrews article if no such sources are proffered. Ravenswing 08:37, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi Fastfads, firstly can I say this nomination is not a reflection on your work. Wikipedia does however have requirements articles must meet to demonstrate suitability for inclusion, most importantly the general notability guideline. Please take a look at the guideline for the kind of sources we require. Thanks, AusLondonder (talk) 16:14, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

I've done a bit of research into the guidelines (thank you @AusLondonder and @Ravenswing for the advice and links - I see that the editorial standards of Wikipedia are higher than what was told to me in school) and spent a lot of time updating the page to what I believe would be above the minimum amount of content to reach the guidelines of general notability - and have found quite a bit of new information about the team along the way.

Point #1: One of the main problems was a lack of secondary sources as I was mainly using the main page of the BUIHA and the team's page at phoons.net - I've now done a significant amount of research into the team and have found a ton of new information about the team entirely from secondary sources ranging from the local student newspaper to the national newspapers (BBC). There even is a video from 2014 which was someone's TV reel that gave a ton of information about the team, including interviews with the founders of the club. There's now a lot more secondary sources on there.

Point #2: Relative to other team pages in the BUIHA (and to applications of the guidelines in general), the Typhoons are a strong pick to have their own page. Take, for example, the London Dragons which was originally my template for the start of this article. The entire page is summary, roster, awards, retired numbers and what universities are involved. The sources are all the University page, the website and the BUIHA website. Yet, I agree with Wikipedia's editors that as it remains up, it's a worthy article to keep in place in the history of British ice hockey even if it may need more sources as the note shows. While other pages like Oxford University Ice Hockey Club carries far more history and therefore sources, I find it exceptional to compare a team founded in 2011 to the team page of the most historic ice hockey club in Europe. Despite being founded so recently, they still have a shockingly deep history to the team, which brings me to the next point.

Point #3: The Typhoons are an notable and important subject in British university ice hockey as well as in the University of St Andrews culture and history. When I started this, I figured I'd make another team page to fill one of the missing spots on the BUIHA teams list. Yet thanks to the pressure for secondary sources, I found this team is extremely notable in university life in St Andrews - and has an extremely interesting (albeit tragic history). According to University of St Andrews, there are 11,280 students at the school right now, so there is on record just under 15% of the entire school (1500 people) attending Jonny Wookey Memorial Game. While it may not have the historical importance of something like Ice Hockey Varsity Match, attendance that high shows it is a huge event for the students of St Andrews and Scotland as a whole. The only one that seems to even come close in St Andrews would be The Scottish Varsity. Considering the difference in popularity between ice hockey and rugby in Scotland, the fact that the number of people interested is this close is an interesting fact in itself. The game is worth archiving on its own but is especially worth inclusion within the context of a team page that is so important in university ice hockey as they won the championship just 2 years ago.

Point #4: There is still significantly more content to go through. All of the sources I have posted have been from "official" newspapers and sources online, but I have not gone through the years of articles on the experience and history written by the St Andrews student newspaper "The Saint". Even right now on their front page is a new article about the experience at Jonny Wookey this year where they lost. I'm pretty busy right now (I fit in the edits and this piece in a bit of free time) but by Friday I should have a complete page with all secondary sources out there - and a pretty perfect page for Wikipedia if you allow it to stay up.

With all of this, I feel there is plenty of evidence that this article is suitable for conclusion and meets the general notability guideline. Please check out the original article with the new additions. I hope these changes (and new sources) will convince you that this article is worth inclusion. As for me, I'm going to keep working on this page when I have time and I'll be voting Keep for this page. Fastfads (talk) 20:45, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Redirect. Sources are exclusively non-independent (websites of BUIHA, Phoons, St Andrews, and St Andrews student newspapers) or fail NOTNEWS (news reports on a missing student). JoelleJay (talk) 01:55, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

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JavaScript InfoVis Toolkit

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Article describes abandonware, all links now lead to a content farm. ojdo (talk) 09:13, 29 April 2024 (UTC)