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List of events named pogrom was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 18 February 2014 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Pogrom. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

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The section Pogrom#Selected list has grown far beyond its inclusion criteria, "This is a partial list of events for which one of the commonly accepted names includes the word "pogrom"".

The section is already marked for needing citations. I have marked some events as citation needed. I will add sources as I find them but some I'm fairly certain will be deleted.

If you are looking for sources, please note here and I will refrain for a reasonable time from deleting until you ref; if you are unable to establish that Pogrom‎ is one of the commonly accepted names for the event please delete.

I will delete individual list items, not groups, so the delete so they can be restored individually if references are found. // Timothy :: talk 20:45, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks in advance for working on this. Besides removing uncited entries, we should also check carefully whether cited sources actually include the term "pogrom" - if not, the corresponding example may well be original research. And for those that do, WP:NPOV may still require to determine whether that view is held widely enough to warrant inclusion in this article, and to attribute it. Regards, HaeB (talk) 21:10, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The problem isn't the list. The problem is the article. This is overwhelmingly an article on anti-Jewish riots. If the WP:SCOPE is supposed to go beyond that, it needs to be entirely rewritten to cull the WP:UNDUE focus on anti-Jewish riots. If the first sentence is correct for the focus of the article, sources shouldn't need to specifically use the word "pogrom"; any fairly spontaneous ground-up anti-anyone riot would count. The history section should then cover most anti-anyone bigotry on the planet.

Seems wrong to me. The solution isn't culling the list by which journalists happen to bring up the word "pogrom". The solution is just making it clear that this is an article on Russian anti-Jewish riots and, by extension, anti-Jewish riots more generally from the WP:LEADSENTENCE and then acknowledging (briefly further down in the lead and in a single section towards the bottom later on) that, by extension, the word does get used by analogy in some other contexts. Those other contexts should be linked to their separate articles, not listed here in any detail at all. — LlywelynII 21:57, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]