Talk:John Frusciante

How he got interviews?

Not explained how he joined the band.

List of ambient music artists

looks like @Leahtwosaints: added John Frusciante to the article List of ambient music artists in 2012 with this edit and edit summary "Added John Frusciante to the list". While there is no reference to corroborate its inclusion onto the list, i only wish to elaborate on my prior edit which @Laser brain: helped improve.-🐦Do☭torWho42 (⭐) 23:13, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

No mention of Robert Hayes?

I'd like to suggest adding John's relationship with bass player Robert Hayes to the biography, because it was important during crucial moments of his history.

In a nutshell:

Frusciante became a close friend of Robert when he moved from Chatsworth to Hollywood in 1987. They were both students at MI and started a band with D. H. Peligro, before D. H. and John joined the RHCP. The RHCP song "Stone Cold Bush" was written by that band. After recording BSSM in 1991, John and Robert (who by that time had moved back to Atlanta and was playing with The Jody Grind) wanted to start playing together again. They couldn't do it, because John had to go on tour for BSSM. While being on this tour, Robert died in a car accident. John has stated that his death was what pushed him over the edge and made him leave the RHCP.

This is almost never brought up when the story of John Frusciante is told.

Sources:

• Frusciante, John. "Q & A 2004 (Time: 14:20)". Youtube.
• Mullen, Brendan (2010). An Oral/Visual History by the Red Hot Chili Peppers. p. 47, 58, 126.
• Nelson, Arty. "Former Chili Peppers’ Guitarist John Frusciante". Bikini Magazine. January 1995.
• Watt, Mike. "2009-01-25 The Watt from Pedro Show (Time: 163:20)" (Podcast). January 2009.

Relevant Quotes:

When the Chili Peppers hired DeWayne "Blackbyrd" McKnight, Robert Hayes and I started playing with D. H. Peligro. "Stone Cold Bush" on the Mother's Milk album was something the three of us recorded, with D.H. singing. But Robert wasn't so into playing with D. H. after he sussed he could have a drug problem. Robert was picking up on it even though D. H. was hiding from us. Robert was trying to steer me away from what we were doing with D. H. When D. H. got hired for the Chili Peppers, that band stopped. Then me and Robert were playing, and then I joined the Chili Peppers and Robert moved back to Atlanta. (Mullen 2010, p.47)

Me and Robert Hayes, my friend from Musician's Institute, were always thinking of doing something together. He was always trying to talk me into quitting the band and him quitting this interesting kind of jazz band he was in. And then he died - his band van crashed two days before my last jaunt with the Chili Peppers. I was just thinking and crying about him all the time. I quit the band in the midst of that. We went to Hawaii and then Japan, and Japan was just... I was already so mad at myself for not quitting months before. I knew I wasn't going to be happy on tour but I went anyway. It has always been an unbearable thought what me and Robert could have done and that I could have taken a more exploratory direction with him rather than limiting my outlet to making pop music. We could have applied elements of the more experimental and jazz things. There were things pointing toward what we might have done on my first solo record. I've always regretted I didn't quit right when we finished recording Blood Sugar because I could feel inside me I had other different musical things to explore. I was so full of regret for not having done it when there was a chance to play music with Robert that when he died all the wind was out of my sails and I just wanted to paint and draw and stuff. I didn't even really want to practice or play music anymore. (Mullen 2010, p.58)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:908:E844:A700:FCB6:2C23:FBE2:393A (talk) 17:55, 21 February 2020 (UTC) 

FA in need of review

This older FA on a living person is in need of a tune-up to comply with the current FA criteria. Issues spotted:

• Verifiability

• There's no source for Frusciante's birth day;
• Warpaint is listed as an associated act in the infobox, but never mentioned in the text (or sourced). Same for Venetian Snares;
• Wu-Tang Clan is both listed in the infobox and mentioned in the text, but not sourced anywhere. Same for Black Knights;
• "2010–2019: Shift to electronic music" is in need of additional references.
• the Bicycle Thief are mentioned in the lead, never in the body, and not sourced. Same for Dewa Budjana and a few others in that sentence (He has also worked with acts including the Mars Volta, Duran Duran, Wu-Tang Clan, Swahili Blonde, Black Knights, the Bicycle Thief, Glenn Hughes, Ziggy Marley, Johnny Cash, George Clinton, Johnny Marr, and Dewa Budjana.) I know that Frusciante worked with lots of artists in his career but either it was significant and has reliable sources that comment upon it or does not have RS that comment upon it and thus it should not be mentioned.
• There are a few genres mentioned in the lead, others in the infobox. They do not match. Also, just as example, I do not see any mention of ambient music in the body of the article or a source that confirms that Frusciante is an ambient musician;
• prince.org is a forum.

• Layout

• Since the career section is presented in a chronological order, the "Collaborations with Omar Rodríguez-López" section is out of place and should be integrated somewhere before;

• Prose

* The "2019–present: Return to the Red Hot Chili Peppers" section has a bit of a rambling on about Frusciante's return to the band that reads as a bit trivial and should be presented in a more objective way.

Article needs tune-up. RetiredDuke (talk) 19:33, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

• I share RetiredDuke's concerns. Many of the sources are not high-quality sources required in FAs. The 2010-2019 needs a trim, copyedit, and additional sources. Lots of information mentioned by RD above are still not referenced or verified. This is liable to be listed at WP:FAR unless someone is willing to address the above concerns. Z1720 (talk) 16:18, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
• +1. The article isn't great. Popcornfud (talk) 00:33, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
  • @Popcornfud: are you interested in nominating this article to FAR? Editors are only allowed to nominate 5 articles at a time there, and I am at my limit. I am happy to help with the process or answer any questions. Z1720 (talk) 02:00, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
    • @Z1720: Sorry, I don't have the energy to get into FA stuff right now, but if you set this up later I'll add my vote. Popcornfud (talk) 16:19, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

      Just looking at this now. I suppose I could grab some book sources and get it back to a decent state without too much effort, but I've concluded that taking BLPs to GA, let alone FA, isn't worth it, because you'll either spend half your wiki-career fixing good faith edits that don't meet the criteria, or get fed up and watch it be delisted in a year or two. As Frusciante is still releasing music at a prolific rate, covering a wide variety of styles, it would be a major effort just to keep the article in shape. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 12:09, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Asexual?

Why is Frusciante included in the category:asexual men? He has never publicly identified as asexual (ace) and I was under the impression that was a pre requisite for such identifications in BLPs. As well as that, the sources of these rumours (eg. https://sports.yahoo.com/25-celebrities-asexual-proud-081602373.html) seem to come from this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMwFwGMlgGA, where he discusses having experienced sexual attraction, which most asexual people don't experience. Mek-laa-ni (talk) 22:29, 20 April 2023 (UTC)