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To whomever can help!

I would like some information on Robert Bly and his counterpartners in respect to who were writers of his time and what was it that they wrote, that made them similar or different to Robert Bly's way of writing.

This definitely is not something I am finding easily and any help is greatly appreciated. I am searching still, but like I said any help is appreciated.

Have a nice day and thank you in advance for your help.

Regards,

Lillian 06:46, 8 March 2005‎ 68.56.57.24

It's my understanding that the one writer who was most similar to and most associated with Robert Bly, over many years, was James Wright. Both were Midwesterners; both were involved in using a modified version of the "deep image" concept (see article on that) in their poetry; and Bly edited a posthumous selection of Wright's poems. Grisunge (talk) 04:06, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

About "To whomever can help!": Is that acceptable English grammar? Toddcs (talk) 09:36, 7 October 2011 (UTC) "To whoever can help," is correct. The subordinate clause 'whoever can help' is the object of 'to'. 'Whoever' is the subject of the verb 'help,' and so has to be in the nominative case. Bracket it like this - To [whoever can help].[reply]

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This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 03:47, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Needs Early Life Section[edit]

There should be more than just his place of birth.

75.252.251.246 (talk) 00:16, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Though and the Men's Movement[edit]

I wrote some things on his though so please let me know if you agree and want to discuss... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmick66 (talk • contribs) 16:11, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

removed empty section[edit]

I have deleted the "Criticism" section. Before anyone tweaks, let me explain that I have no problem with including criticism in the article. But as it stood, this section had zero content: no explanatory prose, no names or references, nothing but a single dead link to a blog that no longer exists. 12.76.169.101 (talk) 16:38, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Stepson[edit]

"A stepson from the marriage died in a pedestrian-train incident while he attended private college in Minnesota."

Why is it being called an "incident" and not an accident? Toddcs (talk) 01:57, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It was a suicide. Gandydancer (talk) 20:28, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Translations collections[edit]

I have renamed this sublist "Translations". I think it is entirely translations, not entirely collections. "Poetry translations" or some equivalent may be preferable; if all are poetry except Hunger, it may be usefully rearranged, or a preface should state that fact.

Translators are more important than publishers so in making the list format more consistent I have chosen to put publishers into parentheses and move co-translators out of parentheses, namely "Title, translators Bly and co-translator surname (publisher, date)". I think the original authors should always be identified —perhaps with links if there are wikipedia articles about them, but I have added no such links. Two authors were named explicitly (most of the translation titles identify original authors) and I have clarified their entries, I hope, by putting those IDs after the translation dates. Some of his more important foreign-language poets should be covered in "Career" or even named in the lead.

P.S. These list entries may not identify the original authors.

The Winged Energy of Delight: Selected Translations
The Lightning Should Have Fallen on Ghalib
The Kabir Book

--P64 (talk) 17:20, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Great Mother Conference[edit]

"He has taught at the annual Great Mother Conference since 1975." This needs clarification. It may be important. One website mentions "Robert Bly's Great Mother Conference". Others identify 2012 as the 38th rendition, which suggests annual from 1975. Did Bly establish this event, whatever it is? ---P64 (talk) 17:27, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have added details regarding the Great Mother Conference. This is my first edit. Please let me know if I have made any formatting mistakes. UUCowboy (talk) 19:27, 15 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Bly and other teachers started the event, which is annual, and continues even though Bly no longer attends. 2018 was the 44th. In earlier years it moved about the country, but more recently, always at Camp Kieve, Nobleboro, Maine. David notMD (talk) 13:41, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Death[edit]

Bly has apparently died, but I can't find any news sources yet. Just thought I'd alert people so they can keep an eye out. Languagehat (talk) 15:10, 22 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

According to some sources online^[1] (and in person, folks who knew him, which I know isn't usable here until published), Robert Bly passed away late last night, Nov 21, 2021.

This should have the "better source needed" template added to the citation, but for the moment, given his extremely recent passing, I didn't want that to be the first thing people saw - I'm open to changes there.

Also, there have been several recent anonymous edits, so, I added the Recent Death template. --Overand (talk) (approx) 15:30 (various edits, sorry!), 22 November 2021 (UTC)

The link you shared contains a link to a FB post, here is another one ^[2] it claims the death date was November 21, 2021 -- Jamplevia (talk) 17:43, 22 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

News article but it doesn't give the death date. ^[3] -- Jamplevia (talk) 17:58, 22 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if this is a reliable source but it gives the death date.^[4] -- Jamplevia (talk) 18:04, 22 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

Obituaries from Minn Star Tribune and NY Times are now references. David notMD (talk) 04:15, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Criticism section[edit]

This section was created on Nov 10, 2021. Rather than remove it (one editor's action, reverted), it may be a valid place for more content, with more references. What is there cites Dana Gioia, a person with a good reputation in the poetry universe. David notMD (talk) 04:17, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://death-obituary.com/poet-and-storyteller-robert-bly-has-passed-away-at-94/

[2] ttps://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=4674138442607341&id=194699040551326

[3] ttps://www.startribune.com/best-selling-minnesota-author-poet-robert-bly-dies-at-94/600119617/

[4] ttps://death-obituary.com/poet-and-storyteller-robert-bly-has-passed-away-at-94/

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