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This page was proposed for deletion by Mitcheldean (talk · contribs) on 8 January 2010 with the comment:
An insignicant and virtually irrelevant fringe party. Some local IWCA websites have not been updated for over a year (Oxford) and others have vanished off the internet altogether (Thurrock, Harold Hill). The IWCA has been given very little media coverage and is rarely mentioned on websites, blogs, and internet forums. If there was semi-regular discussion about the IWCA on blogs and forums then this article may be worth saving, but the lack of internet coverage implies that the IWCA doesn't even register on the radar!
It was contested by Warofdreams (talk · contribs) on 00:54, 9 January 2010 with the comment:
(remove prod - importance is not temporary; party has attracted considerable attention, as refs demonstrate, and has elected councillors)

Red Action vs IWCA[edit]

Red ACtion is surely not *the same* organisation as IWCA? This is like redirecting IRA to Sinn Fein.

It appears that Red Action and the IWCA are one and the same based on statements by Red Action on their own web page. The IWCA however, is nothing more than a party trying to out BNP the BNP. Almost every article on their website blames Asians, Immigrants and Muslims for every single problem the working class faces. Take their article on the situation in 2002 when several Palestinian and Sudanese men were hospitalised by gangs of up to 50. The IWCA and Red Action all but blame these people for being attacked and find no fault at all in the mobs who attack them. Instead of condemning violence it backs up its support for the mobs who attacked these immigrants by quoting totally unsupported claims such as teenage girls pregnant by 'immigrants' (Realy Red Action, which immigrant? Which nationality? Who is this girl? What about the numerous teenage girls made pregnant by white working class boys in the same area is that not worth mentioning? I guess not when you are trying to blame every problem that white working class people face on Asians, Muslims and immigrants)

Red Action also has links to newspapers such as the Kirkby Times which openly advertises for the BNP and supports their election in the Knowsley area of Liverpool.

So much for Red Action being a party that fights fascism. Just more proof that left or right, there is little difference between the two on the political fringes.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.204.191.184 (talk • contribs)

What a pack of lies. Still, anyone reading their website, as I just have, will see that for themselves. What's your agenda? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.216.150.167 (talk) 02:19, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposed Deletion[edit]

Having a couple of elected councillors is insufficient to merit inclusion on Wikipedia. Plenty of community group and resident's associations have managed to achieve this. IMO, only a political party with regular activity in 10 separate areas, or that which is regularly discussed on blogs and forums is worthy for inclusion in Wikipedia. Regular activity is defined by published coverage of the party's activities either by the media or on the party's website that has taken place for at least a year and the most recent event is less than 3 months old. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.183.140.23 (talk) 10:53, 9 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's not a view with any consensus, but feel free to nominate the article at WP:AFD, if you really do feel that it isn't sufficiently notable. Warofdreams talk 17:37, 9 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Criticisms material[edit]

I removed this material, which seemed to me un-encyclopedic, un-referenced and OR. Editors who think it should be in should edit and reference it before re-inserting: "Indeed many critics on the left would deny that the IWCA sits politically on the Left at all - having more in common with some variants of Self Help Liberalism - with its enthusiasm for the Mondragon workers co-operative movement, and its single propaganda/electoral focus on local ownership and control of services by local people - at the expense of any coherent analysis of the bigger picture at national or overall system level (eg. the capitalist nature of society)." BobFromBrockley (talk) 13:55, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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