Talk:Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen

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June 29, 2009Good article nomineeListed
July 28, 2009Peer reviewReviewed
August 18, 2009Featured article candidateNot promoted
Current status: Good article

Pokémon Japanese cover artwork[edit]

I think we should also include Japanese cover artwork on Pokémon video game pages. Is there any way we could do this?

(Just because they were made in Japan and sold in Japan, it seems to be...original unlike the US cover artwork.)

76.233.81.56 (talk) 00:34, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There's no reason, since there's only one difference between any US and Japanese artwork – whether the logo is in Japanese or English. And did you have to post this on every single game article?—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 00:39, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Edits[edit]

I've removed and substituted all of the single-gendered mentions in the article; way too many "he"'s and "his"'s in there. I've also removed some information from the article. I got rid of the trivia section, as per WP:Trivia, and removed some other trivial information. One paragraph contained the same information two sentences in a row, so I removed one sentence and rewrote the other. I also removed some unnecessary detail, rewrote a couple of sentences, and combined a two-sentence paragraph with the slightly longer one above. MelicansMatkin (talk) 16:02, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reflect changes[edit]

"The upgraded games are once again set in the fantasy world of Kanto and follow the progress of the central character, Red in his quest to master Pokémon battling."

Not entirely true, sure it reflects the similarities between the upgrades and the originals! However it doesn't reflect the change that the central character can be female, meaning that it would follow "her" quest! That's why I started a sentence "However..." afterwards!

T3021 (talk) 00:29, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good point. I have fixed the article. Artichoker[talk] 02:09, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I've looked at the updated version, and there appears to be a discrepency, you've listed her as "Green" (like in the manga), however the next section lists her as "Leaf"! I don't know how important it is, but I thought I'd point it out!

T3021 (talk) 02:33, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Umm...the female character's default name is "Leaf". Shouldn't it be leaf, and not Green? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.134.56.87 (talk) 23:35, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

True, although I do not own the game myself, I did read it on a website recently somewhere, but it didn't occur to me to make a note of the page, for reference! Anyway, Leaf is based upon the Pokémon manga character Green, however, as Leaf is her default name in the games, then it probably should be changed here, and we could possibly keep the link, swapping Green for Leaf!

T3021 (talk) 01:43, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, Blue(Gary) in FireRed and LeafGreen were changed back to "Green" as in the Original Japanese Pokemon Red and Green, instead of "Blue" like in the North American Pokemon Red and Blue, so this might confuse people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.216.157.28 (talk) 03:29, 25 September 2008

Rename/move article[edit]

I propose renaming the article Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen versions or Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions. More discussion has occured here. SharkD (talk) 01:47, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I know it is insanely late to reply to this, but I think it should be said that this is not a "version" per se, but essentially a whole new game. For it to be a "version", then there would have to be only one Pokémon game with many versions, and not a game series. Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:42, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

More game console thingies[edit]

I added that these games could be played on the DS's, cuz, well... they can. Yah. Please say if there is a problem with that. Thankya! --Pooja13 (talk) 02:59, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We don't add the DS systems because they're Game Boy Advance games, not DS games. -sesuPRIME talk • contribs 03:15, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How you download the game Zonerphx602 (talk) 18:01, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Removed false images and posted back the original images[edit]

The Box Art for the Pokemon FireRed and LeafGreen is called Pokemon Chaos Black. That game is a bootleg and a retard just simply removed the FireRed/LeafGreen box art and placed his own, [Image:Pokemon chaos black.jpg]. The fake Box Art itself already violated copyright.

I have REMOVED it. I have no idea where's the real BoxArt, so the image will be left blank until someone puts up the original one.

LordThrall (talk) 16:11, 3 June 09 (+8 GMT)

Found one more picture, which shows the battle scene in Pokemon Chaos Black, a bootleg. I have REMOVED it also.

LordThrall (talk) 16:17, 3 June 09 (+8 GMT)

Done my research, and Pokemon Chaos Black was just basically a hack of FireRed. More info here. [1]

LordThrall (talk 08:20, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Found the original images, and i have uploaded back into the article already.

LordThrall (talk) 16:27, 3 June 09 (+8 GMT)

Images have been removed, and as in this [2] site, the user who uploaded the false images had been blocked.

LordThrall (talk) 8.42, 4 June 09 (+8 GMT)

Thanks for your vigilance in keeping the article all purdy. It's much appreciated. -sesuPRIME talk • contribs 08:45, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lordthrail, thank you, because it is obvious that chaos black is not fire red or leaf green, however, I need to correct you on your statement that this is a fire red hack, it is not. Chaos black is an IPS patch of a Pokemon Ruby game file, and as a result can only be played on an emulator. 75.104.160.38 (talk) 02:54, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

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Written Review:[edit]

A very nice article, good writing, and in good form, in my opinion. Statements have good references from reliable sources, including the quotes in the Reception section. It covered all the important aspects of an article about a video game, without unnecessary information or a huge section about the plot. The images were good, although one or two more images would be nice to help describe the game more if you ever decide to try for Featured Article status. All in all, a very interesting and informative article. Keep up the good work! Epass (talk) 19:39, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if any more images would be appropriate. What type of images do you think the article needs? Anyways, thanks for your time in reviewing the article. Cheers, Artichoker[talk] 19:42, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe the cover of LeafGreen or a picture of the main character? I don't really know... perhaps a screenshot? Epass (talk) 20:07, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well the cover of LeafGreen is a copyrighted image, and since it really doesn't add much to the article that isn't already put forth by FireRed, I don't see how adding it would significantly enhance the reader's understanding of the subject. We had a picture of the main characters a while back, but I also removed that, because once again I'm not sure how it is significant to the article. A screenshot would probably be the only possiblity; what aspect of gameplay do you think needs to be displayed? Artichoker[talk] 20:12, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Just a suggestion on my part, but what about a screenshot of the Fame Checker (I think thta's mentioned in the article) since these are the only games it has appeared in (to my knowledge)? MelicansMatkin (talk) 20:15, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The Fame Checker isn't mentioned in the article, and only comprises a very minimal, unnecessary aspect of the game. Artichoker[talk] 20:17, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Does it matter?[edit]

They aren't enhanced that much to warrant enhanced infront of the title.MR KennedyDX (talk) 01:18, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes they are. They were made 8 years after the original games, and come on a different platform, with completely updated graphics and audio, along with a large amount of new in-game features (i.e. Sevii Islands) Artichoker[talk] 01:20, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
And?MR KennedyDX (talk) 01:24, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
There is no "and". I adequately responded to your point. How about I ask you "and"? Artichoker[talk] 01:28, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I mean "and" as in so. Big deal, a lot of games do that, but are mere remakes.MR KennedyDX (talk) 01:30, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No, that doesn't mean they are mere remakes. Frankly you're not making any sense. Artichoker[talk] 01:32, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

FireRed and LeafGreen[edit]

what is the difference betwwen FireRed and LeafGreen? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.95.18.30 (talk) 04:55, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

LeafGreen instead of FireRed for cover art?[edit]

The cover arts in other Pokemon game articles are consistent in alphabetical order. How did LeafGreen managed to have its cover art displayed before FireRed? Rukario-sama ^ㅈ^ -(...) 17:59, 31 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure it really matters, as to the reader of the article the same purpose is served. Feel free to upload an equal quality image of FireRed and swap out LeafGreen with it in the article, if you really want to. Artichoker[talk] 23:10, 31 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Use of the term "enhanced remakes"[edit]

Hi, there is currently a discussion going on at the talk page for Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl about the use of the term "enhanced remakes". As any consensus should be reflected in all Pokémon remake articles, any input would be appreciated. Anarchyte (talk • work) 05:54, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pokémon ThunderYellow[edit]

Why is there not a single mention of Pokémon ThunderYellow on all of Wikipedia except for one redirect to this article?! Sinthorion (talk) 14:53, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Game generation[edit]

2601:204:D880:3930:FCEC:143A:9CB0:4035, what evidence do you have for categorizing the game by the generation of it's original region/Pokemon? Both game wikis and news articles refer to a game by the generation it was released in. Yeeno (talk) 03:17, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging @melecie, who was involved in a similar discussion on the IP's talk page. Yeeno (talk) 03:19, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Did my last message go through? I don't see it 2601:204:D880:3930:FCEC:143A:9CB0:4035 (talk) 03:31, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Don't think it did, anyways:
region = gen
a gen is the new region and its new pokemon, and if a remake goes back to that region, why would it be considered a new gen if its not bringing any new pokemon (that arent new to any other gen, for example, frlg remakes adding gen 3/hoenn pokemon to the kanto region) to it?
kanto, or gen 1, would be: red/blue/green/yellow, fire red/leaf green, and let's go pikachu and eevee.
johto, or gen 2, would be: gold/silver/crystal, and heart gold/soul silver 2601:204:D880:3930:FCEC:143A:9CB0:4035 (talk) 03:34, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The majority of the fandom considers a generation to be the uninterrupted span of time beginning with and including a game that introduces a new region and new Pokemon, and ending with the next such game. Thus, the "third generation" is the time period starting with Ruby and Sapphire's release and ending at Diamond and Pearl's release; thus, FireRed and LeafGreen are in the third generation.
Because Wikipedia works by consensus, if most of the fandom considers something to be one way, that is how Wikipedia will report it, no matter how incorrect one person may think it is. If you can show that a majority agrees with your interpretation, then perhaps it can change. 2600:1700:F970:3238:F6E3:A651:D004:3ED5 (talk) 03:43, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
...and besides, remakes in general seem to basically be what if the game being remade was made during the new generation and featuring everything that it had (except arguably Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl but that's a topic for another time and another place), featuring everything the newer generation has, not just what the originals had. 💜  melecie  talk - 03:47, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
its not my fault the majority of the fandom are wrong then lmao 2601:204:D880:3930:FCEC:143A:9CB0:4035 (talk) 03:48, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, this isn't the place to present your own opinion on things. Wikipedia reflects what is written in reliable sources, and those sources say the game is in the third generation; I hope you understand that edit warring won't change that. Yeeno (talk) 05:32, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

An edit war seems to be brewing on this page and pages for the other Pokemon remakes. Current consensus is that Pokemon FireRed and LeafGreen are part of the third generation of Pokemon games, as stated at Bulbapedia, and likewise HeartGold and SoulSilver are in the fourth, Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire are in the sixth, and Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl are in the eighth. If someone would like to make an argument otherwise, please do it here rather than in edit summaries, and we will come to a consensus before moving forward. 2600:1700:F970:3238:F6E3:A651:D004:3ED5 (talk) 03:21, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong release dates[edit]

The release dates are just wrong. They say the game came out in November of 2003 even though the build date of the jp version is December. The correct release date is January 2004. 141.226.75.179 (talk) 16:27, 16 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. Ludoyo (talk) 16:48, 16 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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