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Article[edit]

Now wouldn't it be neat with a page on the man himself?

Why don't you start writing some of it? --Slac 23:24, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Bias, POV statement[edit]

I have removed the following statement "Incidentally in his later work he came to the conclusion that there is no such thing as being "out of body." Nonetheless, he is considered a pioneer by many who study astral projection." This statement gives the impression that Monroe somehow denounced his out of body experiences. This is not the case, he did in fact come to the conclusion that all things are one, and therefore there is no real separation. This would be a similar position to a Buddhist who has transcended the concept of duality or separateness. This kind of belief is far from him deciding there is no such thing as was previously stated. I hope that clarifies things. - Solar 17:29, 9 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Bias, POV statement[edit]

Regarding Monroe's conclusion that astral projection does not entail one leaving their body, this was more to do with the development of the Phasing view of consciousness. In short, one does not leave their body but 'phases' to another point of awareness. Perception of reality is generated and experienced internally (by the Brain) and so to move out of body would actually be impossible. It’s only ones focus (viewpoint) which changes. According to the phasing viewpoint, all experience, reality, and the astral planes exist at certain focus levels. One simply has to phase (change focus) to experience these different locales.

misterjingo 23:09, 07 December 2005 (GMT)


psychic researcher, POV statement[edit]

Please provide links or evidence that Monroe did indeed carry out 'psychic research'. In a few instances he did aid Charles Tart in a series of inconclusive experiments, but in such, he was a subject rather than an investigator or researcher. The term ‘psychic researcher’ is ambiguous at best, and at worst has been distorted by popular culture. I think it reduces Monroe’s credentials somewhat, implying that he spent his time looking at mediums (he didn’t), or any other of the pychometry, levitation, mind reading etc which have been grouped under the term psychic. His life’s work was based around the mapping of consciousness, not the research of psychic phenomenon (as popular culture now defines it); he was very much a man of empirical science, the Monroe institute still releasing research papers to this day.

Please provide even a single link where Monroe reports to being a psychic investigator, and i'll be happy to leave it.

MisterJingo 20:03, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

We might be able to find a better term, without making him out to be a loony. What we have here is a narrow interpretation of "researcher." Anyone who, without making a-priori assumptions but following the scientific method, explores the mind or psychic functioning is a researcher. Monroe recorded his experiments in books, and from what I've read, he did a great ammount of research into helping people achieve psychic states- the "levels" he talks about. This was research, both in exploring the psychic abilities and realms, and in finding out how to get people to achieve those states. So I think the term applies- both in the traditional sense, and in the sense of research with himself as a subject. We might be able to word it better. I can cite his books or the Monroe Institute papers/research, as described in those books.
Please put all new content at the bottom of the page. –––Martinphi (Talk Ψ Contribs) 20:25, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A White House Speech Writer and Media Consultant Under Monroe[edit]

It would be interesting to know, that Robert Monroe's experience was as a "Media Consultant", that later provided his services in the new understanding of the use of "The Media" for The U.S. Government. It is alledged that Monroe taught and refined the talent of a number of young and upcoming media and speech writers. One of these alledged media speech writers was, Donald A. Stewart, a young television and comedy writer. Due to the power of the media coming of age, In his attempt to put or pump more creativity in media speech writing, Mr. Stewart was sent to a new combined agency called "Action". His creative nature would later get the attention of an individual named Ronald Reagan. Both Reagan and Stewart were aquainted with being former sportscasters on the radio. When Reagan became President of The United States, he made Donald Stewart one of his Western White House Speech Writers.

Like Robert Monroe, Donald Stewart would find the study of parapsychology an interesting topic. To how much of a degree he did, Monroe's interest may have influenced him greatly during his association.

In a strange occurance of happenstance, during the early period of "The Stargate Program", Robert Monroe would meet U.S. Army Officer named Frederick "Skip" Atwater, who was associated with Ft. Meade, and the study of Military Applications of what would be known as Remote Viewing. They became good friends, and "Skip" would fall in love and marry Monroe's daughter.

Meanwhile, Donald Stewart's daughter would fall in love and marry none other than Pioneer Remote Viewer, A. Edward Moch. It would be years later, that this connection would be revealed.

Aedwardmoch (talk) 05:44, 30 August 2008 (UTC)AedwardmochAedwardmoch (talk) 05:44, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Merge[edit]

There were three articles, all about the same person and his enterprise, two of which contain original research. In order to address the content of these articles and bring them to the required standard, which I can do - and would love to collaborate if anyone else is interested - I have merged them. They can always be separated out again should there be a consensus that any section warrants its own article - though I doubt it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prolumbo (talk • contribs) 19:31, 1 February 2016‎

Soul Retrieval redirects here.[edit]

"Soul Retrieval" redirects to this article. However, nothing in this article is on the topic of soul retrieval. Can someone fix this? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.161.72.119 (talk) 16:04, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Where on internet chat can i discuss the topic of out-of-body experience and join or crate chat group of out of body experience please?
PK 31.94.11.55 (talk) 15:30, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Please contact me under patkasperek @ gmail.com 31.94.11.55 (talk) 15:32, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Monroe[edit]

Robert Monroe was the first man killed on Lexington Green during the first battle of the American Revolutionary War. He was a 51-year-old Ensign in the Massachusetts Militia. He was the ranking officer in a small group of rebels who faced a similar number of British troops commanded by Major John Pitcairn and Captain John Parker.

Seven other militamen (so called Minutemen) were killed in the engagement. The British suffered only one casualty--a man from a Lincolnshire Regiment was wounded. Captain Parker's horse also suffered a wound.

Also to be found on Lexington Green (standing to this day) is Munroe's Tavern. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Torakula (talk • contribs) 22:57, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • If you would have taken a look at the article you would have seen that it is about that Robert Munroe born in 1915 and therefore a different person ...GELongstreet (talk) 03:20, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Monroe, Ensign[edit]

Robert Monroe was the first man killed on Lexington Green in the opening battle of the American Revolutionary War. A 51-year-old Ensign in the Massachusetts Militia (the so-called Minutemen), he was the rebels' ranking officer. He and a small number of militiamen faced a similar number of British troops commanded by Major John Pitcairn and Captain John Parker.

Seven other rebels were killed in the engagement. The British suffered only one casualty--a man from a Lincolnshire Regiment was wounded. Parker's horse was also wounded.

The Munroe Tavern, a small building that stands to this day, was nearby. It was used after the battle to treat the wounded.

The original Scottish clan spelling of his surname is "Munro". Most Americans with this name spell it "Monroe".Torakula (talk) 23:24, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • If you would have taken a look at the article you would have seen that it is about that Robert Munroe born in 1915 and therefore a different person ...GELongstreet (talk) 03:20, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Criticism needed[edit]

Regarding the Monroe Institute: As a casual reader, it seems like yet another case of successfully commercialised pseudoscience. There is no criticism section, nor links to similar woo, which made me wonder if it's because the Monroe institute is more scientific than it appears to be, or else if the article authors are giving it the benefit of the doubt. (I came here via a declassified cia document referring to the gateway effect, which was very clearly pseudoscientific nonsense.) Feydun (talk) 23:22, 4 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings Man of 2017! I am reaching out to you from 2022! Sometime after you visited this page critical thinking was abolished, and in fact classified as a potential felony considering the circumstances. Donald Trump was elected president, Wikipedia became pure entertainment, and the Supreme Court overturned Roe v Wade! I know it's hard to believe, but there you go! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:6AE5:2510:0:0:0:46 (talk) 19:00, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Questionable claims[edit]

"His research, beginning in the 1950s, produced evidence that specific sound patterns have identifiable, beneficial effects on our capabilities. For example, certain combinations of frequencies appeared to enhance alertness; others to induce sleep; and still others to evoke expanded states of consciousness."

Is there any factual basis to any of this (above)?

  • What evidence was produced? Is it verifiable?
  • Who says there are beneficial effects? When did they say it? Are the benefits verifiable?
  • Which combination of frequencies? Who says this is true? Where is the evidence? Is it verifiable?
  • What is meant by "expanded states of consciousness"? Does it have a definition or is this just pseudoscience?

Stevethefiddle (talk) 15:08, 2 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This is out of my memory (sources should be checked): there were experiments using binaural and pulsing beats, with the belief that they could synchronize the hemispheres and that audio entrainment could produce the brain to change its rhythm (i.e. theta associated with the dream state), etc. Apparently some people experienced out-of-body experiences under a program. Of course, some vendors started selling "brain trainers" and it became a fad. If I remember, some have attempted to reproduce the experiments but failed. One of the possible conclusions was that the audio signal itself may have had no effect but that the magnetic fields produced by the old large wired headphones may have... I agree with you that these claims seem unsubstanciated. —PaleoNeonate – 23:38, 2 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Shifting Realities[edit]

I was thinking that his out of body experience might have been a sign of shifting. 49.179.65.25 (talk) 02:09, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bob?[edit]

So if his full name is: Robert Allan Monroe then who is Bob and why are people calling him Bob (also on other websites for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQQRlCrcDp4)? "They had Bob's only biological child together, daughter Laurie" Might be nice to have some clarification on this! 85.148.96.173 (talk) 00:03, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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