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Absent hymen[edit]

I highly recommend deleting this line "or it may instead be completely absent" from the first paragraph of the article, since there is no scientific evidence to prove complete absence of hymen.

"it may instead be completely absent" I checked it's reference and found no evidence about absence of the hymen. anybody can provide a reference with certain that congenital hymen absence is scientifically proved.

in this research page 1, right column, first 3 lines declare that, in their research they have not seen any hymen absence, while i am not aware of any other research that have found congenital absent hymen, i am very thankful if anybody can help me. Daniel abdullah (talk) 13:01, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Daniel abdullah. I would highly recommend removing the RfC template you have used above; this issue is not really suited to the purpose of requests for comment: They are more for situations where there is an otherwise unresolvable conflict or disagreement about content. In this particular case i would suggest that you remove the line you are finding problematic, and make a note here that you have done so. Then, if anyone objects ~ and there are about three hundred watchers of the page, so your action will be seen ~ they can (and likely will) come here to the talk page and prepare to discuss. Hope this helps. Happy days ~ Lindsay^Hello 15:54, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much for your tips, i would do them as you said mate, have a nice day. Daniel abdullah (talk) 15:59, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Clearer description of the Hymen[edit]

I am not Academic, but I did once ask a Doctor why the Hymen didn't prevent menstruation, and his answer gave me a peace of mind that I would like to share with you.

The Vagina is a tube that can expand and contract like an accordion. The Hymen is a piece of skin that grows over the wrinkles on the front, and it doesn't necessarily bleed unless a virgin squeezes hard enough to part the wrinkled portion.

As a women matures, the hymen becomes thinner, and there is less likelihood of pain or bleeding when it is ruptured.

If the scholarly among you would like to source this, I think it would improve the introduction to the article, and save a lot of women from self-doubt and abuse, and give men a clearer understanding of what should be meant by virginity.

Faragut (talk) 23:16, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What? --Equivamp - talk 04:28, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I could have been clearer in my description above. Instead of "wrinkles in the front," and "wrinkled portion," I should have said, "pleats in the front," and "pleated portion."

Faragut (talk) 19:35, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The article is clearer now, but doesn't appear to answer the question, "How does the hymen remain intact, without blocking menstruation?"

If you visualize a tube that is pleated along it's length, then there is no "front," or "back." But if that tube is a female vagina, and she is lying on her back, then one side of the tube becomes the front. I can't answer how far up the tube the hymen reaches, but it needs to be clearer that the front of the tube nearest the opening is where the hymen is.

If it were a cave entrance, the front of the cave would be where the opening is, but the roof of the cave would be where the hymen stretches across the lengthwise pleats. To model a vagina, the cave would have to be capable of expanding it's diameter, to accommodate the girth of intercourse, and more so later, so that a baby could come out through it.

Does this suggest a way that the article could still be improved? We know that the normal hymen does not block menstrual blood from exiting.

Faragut (talk) 22:51, 10 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What? Equivamp - talk 00:41, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Faragut: it’s unclear what exactly you want. What issues do you have with the article.

@Equivamp: I’m not sure just saying what is very helpful. It would be more ideal to say “your request is a little unclear” or “I don’t understand your concerns”.CycoMa1 (talk) 22:55, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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