Talk:Trei culori

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This is NOT the correct version of the national anthem lyrics of the Socialist Republic of Romania.

The words which the author posted is a Romanian patriotic song Treiculori, when the communist goverment adopted this anthem, they used the same music, but the original lyrics of Treiculori were been replaced.

This is interesting, 211.75.91.19. But do you have any references about that? Links etc...? For example something that could be as authoritative as this one: image of the scores and first verse of Trei Culori, including the title "Imnul de Stat al Republicii Socialiste România" found on a page not far from glorifying Ceausescu? --dfrki 08:32, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Ok, after actually reading the first verse on the image, I noticed that even though the beginning is the same, the end of the first verse is different. So I'm no longer sceptical about that. Can you provide the exact text?--dfrki 08:40, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I added the first two verses. I don't know whetever there are some more. The communistb probably didn't like the "Let's live free in the country" reference. :-) Bogdan | Talk 08:44, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Actually this passage is nowhere in the Romanian text. "Iar albastrul e credința" actually means: "Blue is the faith" and not "For many centuries they fought". --MichaelHaeckel (talk) 21:08, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Re-building true text

This is an attempt of rebuilding the true text while surfing around. I will add this as soon as it is complete to the main article.

Trei culori cunosc pe lume

Amintind de-un brav popor

Ce-i viteaz, cu vechi renume

In lupta triumfator

Here's one more verse. Is it the second one? How many more are there?

Rosu, galben si albastru

E al nostru tricolor

Se inalta ca un astru

Gloriosul meu popor

There are three verses. I added them directly to the article. Bogdan | Talk 08:54, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Good job Bogdane! Now remains to update all other language pages, since they are based on the English one.--dfrki 09:18, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Translation

I prefer User:Laxori666's translation:

Red is the fire of bravery

Sacrifices that in eternity won't be lost

Yellow, the gold of the plain

And the blue of our sky

to the present:

Red is the bravery's fire

Sacrifices that in eternity won't be lost

Yellow, the plain's gold

And blue is our sky

...but User:Defrenrokorit reverted it. Any one else have an opinion? I'd like to get a consensus rather than keep flipping back and forth. -- Jmabel 05:41, Jul 6, 2004 (UTC)

Here's the original text:

Roşu-i focul vitejiei,

Jertfele ce-n veci nu pier

Galben, aurul câmpiei,

Şi-albastru-al nostru cer.

I reverted it because the wording with "of" was too heavy to my taste. But I'm ready to find the best translation. The original wording is not by me, so I'm not "personally" affected ;-) --dfrki 05:58, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Complete words and English translation

As I know, the complete words of Trei Culori has 7 verses. I have posted all the words and an English translation into the article. -- Kibinsky 06:53, Dec 20, 2004 (UTC)

I haven't looked closely at this new addition, but any translation that turns cunosc pe lume into "I'm acquainted" is very loose. Maybe done by someone who knew only a little Romanian & didn't know that the first person singular form and third person plural were identical? Anyway, someone may want to have a look at this. I'll get there eventually if no one else does. -- Jmabel | Talk 08:37, Dec 20, 2004 (UTC)

Interesting: the translation is by Andrei Bantaş -- no slouch, I use his Romanian-English dictionary -- but it's very, very loose. I'll leave his in place, since he's something of a "name", but I'm trying to start a more precise translation. I've done two verses so far, I'd appreciate if a native Romanian speaker would check, I'll continue over the next few days. -- Jmabel | Talk 02:56, Dec 24, 2004 (UTC) My attempted translation is now complete, could use checking. -- Jmabel | Talk 22:54, Dec 24, 2004 (UTC)

The authors of the "adapted" versions

The RSR National Anthem had a couple a versions. The version included in the article seems to be the last one, and it was in use since the beginning of the '80. The first RSR "adapted" version is dated from 1977. --Vasile 00:21, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Well, any ideas about that? I found this "last version" only. --Kibinsky 10:09, Jan 19, 2005 (UTC)

The translation is inaccurate for the sake of being poetic

The poetic translation is inaccurate in a number of places. For example, "So we may the land’s fruit gather" is completely lacking the actual meaning, "To live as masters in our land". Either add an extra lyric box with correct lyrics, or change the existing one. Roedagardet (talk) 07:06, 24 January 2024 (UTC)