User talk:Abqwildcat

I, WIKIndahouse, award you this barnstar for your constant and tireless work to maintain NPOV on several contentious articles.

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HGH

I was surprised by your addition to HGH quackery. I have been expanding the growth hormone treatment article for the last couple of weeks. It was getting too big and I put the HGH quackery article up in preparation for moving stuff there and filling it out. I didn't expect anyone to notice or mess with it. Nothing wrong with what's there. I'll be adding more in. I think it's a perfectly NPOV title myself.Alteripse 19:47, 16 May 2004 (UTC) At long last, I filled out the article. Let me know if you think I've left anything out. alteripse 04:18, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

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I'm sorry if my editing comment offended you, as it was just meant to be a brief, shorthand comment. I did not intend to put down anyone in any way. Thank you for notifying me about it, however, and i will try to fix my way of editing in the future. --Thirteen 13 22:57, 17 May 2004 (UTC)

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You seem to have some wicked timing. I just put the Serializing tokens page up and was just posting quite a bit more when your stub msg completeely borked it! I guess that the wikipedia needs to work on it's own serialization methods wouldn't you say?

--MJA

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Not like it matters apparently! Another user has done a fantastic job of providing information that I'd have fumbled for a week to find the words for! Once pages get noticed, things seem to get fixed up pretty quickly around here. Thanks alot for the pointers BTW. I am still fairly new to this.

--MJA

Northgate Shopping Centre

There was a resolution on Votes for Deletion for a disambiguation page for Northgate Shopping Centre.. I'm not sure whether it was a good idea, but its probably not a good idea to go against it this quickly. -Aaron Hill 00:31, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Phone numbers of faculties of osmania university

I noticed that you put this article up for VFD a while back. Was there a vote? I was about to nominate it myself, then saw that you had already done so. Joyous 23:02, Jun 30, 2004 (UTC)

Category:Propaganda

I put The O'Reilly Factor in the category for two reasons. The first and more important one was practical -- to try to get any O'Reilly partisans involved in the debate at Category talk:Propaganda, because the discussion there might result in the tag being legitimzed for this article, so they should participate. The second was that, if Michael Moore is considered to be a propagandist, then so is O'Reilly. To answer your question, however, my preference is that the inflammatory category Propaganda should not include Moore, should not include O' Reilly, should not include their works, and should not include similar subjects (Rush Limbaugh, Al Franken, Ann Coulter, etc.). One can make a colorable case for including all these people, and many more, in the category, but I think it would be better to exclude them all. Nevertheless, I would certainly oppose a "solution" in which polemicists of the left are included in Propaganda while polemicists of the right are not. If there's a reason to identify such people, maybe Category:Polemics should be established. JamesMLane 06:25, 1 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Anglo-America

Hi. I think your wording sounds fine. Anglo-America isn't a common term by any means, but it probably is helpful for people who don't speak English as their first language or whose parents didn't. Cheers, Fire Star 01:24, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Dis-ambiguation message

You wrote "move template to top for clarity". Please explain in detail what you mean. 66.245.29.166 01:03, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Richard Carmona on the Tucson article

Thanks for your note on my discussion page regarding Richard Carmona on the Tucson article. I put a response there for you. - Eisnel 23:59, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

University of Arizona

Abqwildcat you need to stop revrting the page, all other University on Wikipedia has the Notable Alumni as a list, See University of California(s), The Ivy Leagues. Infact it would be hard to find a handful that doesn't do it. It's obviously the standards. I know you put a lot of hard work into this page, but you have to yeal to standards. If you feel your way should be the standards, please bring it up in the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Universities. Regarding Orginization, that is standardized based on the link i mention above. U of A is a university first and formost, the orginization information is more important than the mesuem and future plans. If anything those two topic should come at the end of the artical. When people look for the U of A they want to know about the university not the mesuem. If the mesuem has such importance it should have it's sperate page. Please understand that these are standards preset and inplace at almost all university pages. Asian Animal 18:57, Nov 8, 2004 (UTC)

Show me the standards in writing. Do they say alumni should be only listed. No. Do they describe EXACTLY how to lay out a page? No. Are they even standards? NO. They're guidelines. Democracy gets better results than reversions and arbitrary deletion of organization. --ABQCat 22:10, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I like your re-edit of the AIBF page

Nice way of rewording the Kodak part. I did not even think about re-wording it. I was just recently out there for the Fiesta because I am a balloon pilot. I was my first time and I think it's wonderful place. BTW, since you are from ABQ have you been to or heard of Sky City, New Mexico. It's an Acoma Indian Res. about 60 miles out from the city. I was wondering because I noticed that there wasn't anything on Wikipedia yet about it or the Acoma people. Thannk You. Hoekenheef 06:47, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Dan Rather

Hi, I've changed the POV tag slightly. You evidently have researched the man, however. Please feel free to add material you feel is missing from the article. Be bold! - Ta bu shi da yu 21:55, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

As a newbie, I appreciate a chronological balance in a biography. Thank you for you input into biographies in general. weide 02:11, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

• Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
• Multi-Licensing Guide
• Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

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Option 2

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

As I've never contributed a pure article, this is meaningless. And annoying. And obnoxious. Ram-Man just put himself on my list. My shit list. --ABQCat 23:56, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Well I am quite sorry that a single message from me is enough to annoy you that much. If we can't talk here at Wikipedia, what good is it? For what its worth, I did make a response on my talk page, if you care. – Ram-Man ^{(comment) (talk)}[[]] 00:06, Dec 11, 2004 (UTC)

We CAN talk, but there are limits on good behavior and ettiquette here on Wikipedia. You know that, and must have had some qualms about messenging 2000 members of the community. This would have been well suited for a discussion page rather than 2000 individual comments. I would have objected less to a short comment + link to the page where you discuss it. The length is an issue separate from my disagreement with multiple licenses. It's annoying and bad form to do what you have - which is not exactly winning over converts if it's your desire to multiply-license wikipedia material. I'd say I'm diametrically opposed to such a plan - the problems far outweigh any benefit you perceive. --ABQCat 01:02, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

In the interests of peace, I should probably mention that my previous bad mood was at least partially due to lack of sleep, excess caffeine, and a final exam schedule from hell. I'm opposed to dual licensing unless Jimbo and the foundation move the whole kit 'n' kaboodle over (which sounds problematic, also). Hopefully this raises awareness and can actually lead to a definitive policy rather than this divisive and problematic initiative. --ABQCat 23:56, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The initiative is not meant to be devisive, although some people find it to be so. I personally discussed the issue with Jimbo at the WikiMeet in NYC in order to clarify his stance on the issue. It is quite clear that he is working hard to get a GFDL 2.0 that is "more free" and closer in spirit to the CC-by-sa, which he would have probably used had it been around when Wikipedia was founded. Since we are stuck with GFDL, the best step is to try to reform it. This is not incompatible with my initiative, as my goal has always been to hope for an improved GFDL 2.0. He supports my drive to have users give permission under the CC-by-sa so our articles can be freely shared and acknowledges an inherent contradiction: copyleft is supposed to allow for free sharing for everyone, but in the end it only allows free sharing to those who use the GFDL, not all open/free licenses. In any respect, we won't be relicensing Wikipedia. Try to separate (1) the issues with Wikipedia and the GFDL from (2) the fact that other projects don't use the GFDL. Please let me know on my talk page if you have any other questions. Sorry about the spam. I have been taking in the advice and don't plan on continuing the spamming process as I was. If I do start asking people, I will probably give them a single paragraph that asks them to look at a separate page with information and explanation. Hopefully that will work better. Amazingly, converts have been won anyway. – Ram-Man ^{(comment) (talk)}[[]] 01:39, Dec 14, 2004 (UTC)

Hi!

ABQCat,

I got the picture of the Bible and Book of Mormon off of this link. While I'm not exactly sure how it is you wish for me to cite it, I'm also not sure if this is against a copyright rule. I thought that if it were simply on a website that didn't state a copyright that meant it was okay to use. If I am wrong, please feel free to delete it. Otherwise, please leave a note on my talk page telling me how to cite the link and I will be happy to do it. Thank you for your help! God bless,

Drew roe 05:58, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The Mesa/Tucson edits

Yeah, AW, the issue of the Pima names for Tucson and Mesa (and where in the article they would go) was discussed at length on their talk pages, and the consensus was clear. The anon editor who now keeps trying to put the Pima back in up top is User:Node_ue, a home-schooled pre-teen in Paradise Valley who was part of those discussions, but is now having a little trouble accepting that the decision went against his position. I'm somewhat sympathetic, even as an old(er) guy, but consensus is consensus. These two pages are on my watchlist, and I will help you man the revert station. --Gary D 05:58, Dec 11, 2004 (UTC)

• This is incorrect. The consensus for both pages was that if the towns were founded with that name by Native Americans, or if that was the name in an official language, it would be OK, and these conditions are met by both pages.

I'm attributing the bulleted edit above to User:Node ue as he didn't bother to sign his name. I just want it clear that it wasn't me responding to Gary D., but rather Node was responding. --ABQCat 22:05, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thanks!

ABQCat,

Thanks for informing me about that. I had had trouble finding the copyright information page before. Also though, considering this new information you have given me, it would probably be best for you look at the other images I have uploaded to this site and consider taking some of if not all of them out, as I obtained them about the same way not knowing of how this rule works. However, I can assure you I will be more careful from now on and only post pictures that I personally have taken! As for whether or not I could post a similar picture that I take, I don't think it will be possible in this situation, as I am not LDS and thus do not have a copy of the Book of Mormon or a Mormon edition of the Bible. However, if you want me to post some pictures of Southern Baptist images I'm sure I could come up with plenty of those! I just enjoy talking and learning about different religions and thus was adding the little bit that I could to the Mormon pages. Anyway, if you need any help with the pictures I have posted that I shouldn't have, I will try to help you locate them for deletion. Thanks for the information!

Drew roe 06:21, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Re: Acoma Pueblo

You said: Yeah, I noticed Acoma was pointing to the wrong place too, but forgot to change it. I'm curious - were most pages which referred to Acoma referring to the Pueblo itself, or were nearby villages included in the link context? I ask because according to what I have read, about 50 people live in the Pueblo proper, but nearly 3000 people live on the federal trust land surrounding the pueblo. I'm considering creating the article for Acoma Pueblo, but if you feel strongly and would like to, I found quite good information from Encyclopedia Britannica (subscription only), New Mexico Magazine (www.nmmagazine.com/NMGUIDE/acoma.html), and the US Census Bureau (here).

I noticed the problem because I was going to put a satellite photo of the mesa on the Acoma Pueblo page (which doesn't exist). It looked like most or all of the links were talking about the pueblo, not about the surrounding land (and definitely not about the city in MN). You can start a page if you want to; I'm not particularly good at encyclopedic writing. If you do create a page, add this template in for some cool picture links: --[[User:Brian0918|brian0918 _talk]] 22:03, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

34.89641°N 107.58158°W / 34.89641; -107.58158

Added several more pics and sources to the Acoma Pueblo talk page. --[[User:Brian0918|brian0918 _talk]] 00:30, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Bill Maher edits

Why the hell do you keep messing with the Maher article. The edits Judson and myself made are completely reasonable, accurate, and unbiased. Could you please stop f*cking those usefull edits up. -- Crevaner 18:06, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

And now you've won me over. Such convincing arguments. See the talk page at Talk:Bill Maher if you have more venom to spew at Maher. Please don't spew it at me - but you're new at this, maybe you don't realize that there's a high standard of community conduct on Wikipedia which is enforced by the community. Since this is the first experience I've had with you, I'm not planning on referring you to a RfC (Request for Comment) or anything, but please do try to be more civil in the future. See wikilove if you have questions about what's expected of you. We would all value your continued contributions to the project, but in a mature manner please. I look forward to working with you to improve the article. Thanks! --ABQCat 18:33, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Heather Wilson edits

Sorry if you felt that was POV. Stern IS a talk radio giant, that doesn't mean I support him or hate Heather Wilson, or that I support Wilson and hate Howard Stern. The "Nipplegate" thing wasn't POV at all, that was what they called the scandal. It's like saying if you use the word "Watergate" you are biased. You seemed to take out a lot of stuff and then claimed it was all POV, when most of it was based on what actually happened. What else do you think is left that was overuse of POV? --JamesB3 15:38, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Talk:Target Stores

Very intelligent and interesting responses to my comments on the neutrality of the Target Stores page. Thank you for your insight. I will be joining soon. Anon User

Please see additional information added to this talk page.

Baptists

ABQ, sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you on this! Yes, I think you present a good point; there are too many links on the Baptists page. I will be perfectly happy to get back to you with more details on trimming some of these down, but I'm currently rushed as I'm in Colorado and kind of doing lots at the moment! So, when I get back home (Illinois), I'll be happy to look through some of these with you and decide which ones should be deleted and which ones are good to go.--Drew R 04:54, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Mesa, Arizona

Sorry yes I'll add the caption, it's the temple. Any thoughts about a better pic for Mesa? Ollieplatt 08:49, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

thanks, I see you've done a lot on the article, it's great. Ollieplatt 09:04, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Target Corporation

Please see the new Target Corporation page. I know you were not totally sold on a merger, but I think you may be happy with the end result of the merger with Target Stores. Any bias issues I had with Salvation Army are now resolved (I think the page is more balanced with additional information...much of it was redundant on two pages). The Talk:Target Stores page was redirected to Talk:Target Corporation, and all past comments from Talk:Target Stores were retained on the new talk page.

Wikipedians who blog

Hi! if you have a moment, could you please see m:Wikinews and blogs to comment? We're interested in learning how Wikinews can work with bloggers; what they might be interested in, how they can take advantage of Wikinews, how they can contribute through their blogs, etc. Thanks! Amgine/^talk

Talk:heaven

Hi. Thanks for your reply. From the bit you quotes it appears that Jesus said that no one would enter heaven except through his involvement in some way. So it doesn't really confirm or deny the 144,000 number, it merely adds a further requirement! --Rebroad 12:21, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Hohokam

Thank you for your note on yesterday's addition to the Hohokam article -- yes, I put the same material on the Anasazi and the Mogollon pages as well. I have considered a Southwestern Peoples page, but that would be a really big project. I suppose a page linked to archaeology called "Cultural divisions" would also be a possibility. The paragraphs are based on the source I placed at the base of the article, but only the last paragraph contains some verbatim material (see reference note). I intend to boil this down a little more (in each article) for general consumption and then beef it up for a Southwestern archaeology/peoples project (if and when). Feel free to edit, if needed. WBardwin 02:10, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Reagan

I should have been clearer. I changed the text written by the author of the section for NPOV reasons ("One of the most loathsome things for him about Soviet communism was its atheism and denial of its people's chances to know Christ" with no qualifier like "Reagan thought that..."); I shortened the quote because I didn't think the first half was very relevant. Thanks for the input. Dave 08:44, Mar 25, 2005 (UTC)

Apologies to ABQWildCat

Apologies for making assumptions about your POV.

NM-Style Food in AZ

Have you ever been to Los Dos Molinos? I think they only have locations in the Phoenix Metro, but if you get a chance, definitely drop by. The location I've been to is just south of Baseline on Central, but I believe there is another location in Mesa, too. I haven't experienced better New Mexican food anywhere else (so far), even in New Mexico.

America West

Feel free to re-add the drunk flying thing on America West. We came to a consensus on Northwest Airlines that NWA's drunk-flying incident should be moved to air safety, so I was trying to be consistent. I for one think that the drunk-flying thing should be on the NWA article, but I was overruled. Rhobite 05:30, Mar 28, 2005 (UTC)

America West Express

FYI, when the RJ 700's and 900's first went into service they had first class seats. They were removed due to strong coach sales and weak first class sales. They were operated by Freedom Airlines as I recall. Vegaswikian 07:26, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Albuquerque, New Mexico

Hey there!

I just added some stuff to Albuquerque,_New_Mexico. I added a bunch of new "notables", websites, and a nice table (w/seal, flag, map, etc.).

I will be adding more history and other items, but I wanted you to double check it for me.

I also feel like taking out the "Professional Schools" section, no other cities have that section, there is no information (page created) about them to link to. Are those schools important in the big picture?

Okay, let me know! WikiDon 07:41, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

Howdy! Well, what if every city put in these schools, doesn't every city have them? Is there something special about these? What is next, beauty schools, truck driver training, driver's ed, New Horizon's? WikiDon

Kirtland Air Force Base

I trimmed up the History on the Kirtland AFB. Please let me know if of it looks less disorganized. I'm attempting to clean up all the Air Force Base stubs, and sometimes the only source I can find is what the Base's official website has (which isn't always the best). I'm not actually from the area, and it is nice to have someone from that area editing. Muj0 19:28, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Welcome back

Welcome back, Abqwildcat, after your two month absence! Wikipedianinthehouse 21:29, August 24, 2005 (UTC)

UNM Page

Thanks for the improvement on the pics formatting. I noted when I put them up that the look needed work. The recent edition of a seal, then a bigger seal, made it even more awkward. Looks much better now. - Laszlo Panaflex 06:37, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Sister Cities: List or Paragraph...???

Howdy!

RE: "consistancy amongst other city articles"

I went and looked at 40 cities with "sister cities" entries in them. 8 out of 10 are in list format, not in paragraph form like User:Derek.cashman is trying to make me believe. Most of those in paragraph form have been converted by one person, User:Derek.cashman.

Read what I have put here:

User:Derek.cashman wants to change, and thinks, that all “Sister cities” lists in articles should be converted/changed to “paragraph” form. I don’t want to. Can you imagine a lists of 26 sister cities, like for Istanbul, and trying to read it in paragraph form? Please read my opinion and vote. WikiDon 08:00, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

NM stuff

Ah, so you wrote the Acoma Pueblo article. Good pictures. I was wondering, do you think Sandia Pueblo is sufficiently close to ABQ to warrant inclusion in {{Albuquerque}}?

editing of Gelnhausen

why did you remove a valid birth from the page?

Path integral

I don't know if you watch this anymore, but I made a response to a rather old comment of yours on the talk page. Please respond there, thanks! --C S (Talk) 11:10, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

TVI to CNM

I've moved your TVI Community College article to Central New Mexico Community College, as you suggested. The name change took effect June 2.

Rankine Cycle

I've just checked the equation and they are correct! I've also added the required citation! ;)--Dric dolphin 02:41, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

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Wow that's a pointless change in rules. Specific use for wikipedia only isn't good enough to use an image on wikipedia. It's reasons like this that I've largely stopped contributing to wikipedia - the license is too restrictive to allow free exchange of information. -ABQCat 01:26, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

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HOLA! Can you stop by Talk:List of cities in New Mexico and chime in? Thanks. WikiDon 06:26, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

We're looking for some input on List of cities in New Mexico and List of cities, towns, and villages in New Mexico, if you wouldn't mind dropping by Talk:List of cities in New Mexico#Improved list and rename article request. Thanks. Camerafiend 23:02, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

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ArbCom elections are now open!

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You appear to be eligible to vote in the current Arbitration Committee election. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. For the Election committee, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:12, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open!

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The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2016 election, please review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. Mdann52 (talk) 22:08, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open!

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The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

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ArbCom 2017 election voter message

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The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

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