Talk:Sati

Meaning

With my ‘new’ meaning of sati it refers to the mental process that leads in the case of the widows to the self mutilation. For monks the process with awareness and skilful attentiveness it leads to overcoming of obstacles or ignorance on the path. This mental process of remembering word after word, emotion after emotion exactly as it happened before is not easily accomplished by everyone. The widow might do it through her grief, the monks by focusing / concentration. With experience it requires less effort. Because of the effort required, it is easy to understand why the original meaning of sati has been lost but that is no reason to omit it.

Reasoning for addition: In the following text sati is a faculty that monks possess. Monks are normally not married, so have no special connection with widows. Monks have respect for all life through the precepts training so sati has a different meaning than self mutilation. They (Buddha, Nagasena, Buddhaghosa) mention sati not awareness or skilful attentiveness so sati must be more specific, the meaning does include awareness or skilful attentiveness. They give a description of sati what it is, mindfulness only doesn’t engage enough. In the case of the widow there is less awareness of the present therefore an unbeneficial tendency for monks with mindfulness a beneficial tendency (Milindapanha).

Copied from “The Way of Samatha”: M. Buddha: “And what monks, is the faculty of sati? Here, monks, the noble disciple has sati, he is endowed with perfect sati and introspection, he is one who remembers, who recollects what was done and said long before.” (Sa yutta Nikaya V 197-8) N. Nagasena: “Sati, when it arises, calls to mind wholesome and unwholesome tendencies, with faults and faultless, inferior and refined, dark and pure, together with their counterparts ...Sati, when it arises, follows the courses of beneficial and unbeneficial tendencies: these tendencies are beneficial, these unbeneficial; these tendencies are helpful, these unhelpful. Thus, one who practices yoga rejects unbeneficial tendencies and cultivates beneficial tendencies.” (Milindapanha 37-38) O. Buddhaghosa: “By means of [sati] they [i.e. other mental processes] remember, or it itself remembers, or it is simply just remembering, thus it is sati. Its characteristic is not floating; its property is not losing; its manifestation is guarding or the state of being face to face with an object; its basis is strong noting or the close applications of mindfulness of the body and so on. It should be seen as like a post due to its state of being set in the object, and as like a gatekeeper because it guards the gate of the eye and so on.” (The Path of Purification, XIV, WJSTitus 02:38, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

"Once upon a time we knew what to do. A British district officer, coming upon a scene of suttee, was told by the locals that in Hindu culture it was the custom to cremate a widow on her husband's funeral pyre. He replied that in British culture it was the custom to hang chaps who did that sort of thing. There are many great things about India - curry, pyjamas, sitars, software engineers -- but suttee was not one of them. What a pity we're no longer capable of being 'judgmental' and 'discriminating'." Mark Steyn [1]

There is both archeological and historical evidence for suttee among the Germanic tribes, e.g. Ibn Fadlan's account of Swedish vikings and the mounds of Ohthere in Vendel and Aun in Old Uppsala. Does that piece of information fit in anywhere here?--Wiglaf 21:26, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Article of its own? Suttee term doesn't feel associated with ancient Germanic tribes. Pavel Vozenilek 21:58, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I was thinking of the Indo-European connection.--Wiglaf 02:02, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Aha. No idea about that. Pavel Vozenilek 02:57, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Sati is also a pupular community in India(State of Uttranchal). They are one of the recognised Brahmins. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.91.158.92 (talk) 13:12, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

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Edit request on 3 February 2012

• Sati (Bramins), Group of people normally brahmins who can be still found in Uttranchal, India. They still perform poojas and jagris and worship their Gods and Goddess in their own way.

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Since our Wikipedia page of SATI contains very few information.I just want to improve the amount and quality of content on the wikipedia page.........please permit me for that I will be really thankful to u for this. 122.168.173.92 (talk) 10:37, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 5 December 2014

The term Sati originates in Hinduism with references found in Rig Veda and Atharva Veda. In order for Hinduism description to be complete please include the following text before the numbered items 1 & 2 under Hinduism. Sati (Hinduism), derives from the Sanskrit Sat meaning supreme truth. The suffix i is the sanskrit root used for the dynamic entity or energy. Sati means the dynamic entity/energy of Sat or supreme truth. Satyamvijayate (talk) 19:57, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

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