Talk:Saleh Ibn Abdul Rahman Hussayen

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a) Your spelling was ghastly b) You removed information vital to somebody researching Hussayen, such as his high-profile nephew c) You removed the linked names of the hijackers, which somebody researching Hussayen would very likely find helpful d) He was not exonerated as you claim, please do research on a subject before arbitrarily rewriting history e) If you cannot name a philanthrophic cause the SAAR Foundation is known for, please don't claim that that is its claim to fame. The SAAR Foundation only became known *after* 9/11, and only because it was one of the high-profile investigations that showed a link between a few illicit Islamic charities, and the funding of terrorism.

Hi, thanks for adding in the part about Sami's innocence, that was definitely needed I agree, sorry I missed it before. Although http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/12/07/terrorism.investigation.ap/ is where I'm finding my reference for the charges about nuclear material.

Well, since his arrest, a number of statements were made by various government officials to the press that implied much, but didn't clearly say anything. For example, he was arrested in February of 2003 on two charges (with multiple counts each) - visa fraud and lying to officials. Yet, for the rest of the year, almost every comment made to the press by the government implied some terror links, although he had not been charged with them then (the terrorism related charges were added in January 2004). Even the link you provided does not state that he tried to obtain any nuclear materials (although it does discuss the ramifications had he done so).

Similarly, it was known (and reported a few times) soon after his arrest that his uncle (the subject of this article) had been questioned after the Sep 11, 2001 attacks. It did not really make big news. However, months later, it was mentioned again - perhaps with a lot more vigor, and the press caught on to it and make a big fuss about it and about how he was now out of jurisdiction. Finally, the Saudi government made a statement that if Saleh Hussayen - his uncle - was wanted for questioning with regards to any investigation, they would provide him to the authorities. The US then confirmed that he was not wanted for questioning. The issue died then. Again, an example of hints, without actually confidently stating anything.

His side of the story, which was never, AFAIK, disputed, was that he was in the thesis writing stage, and wanted some peace to work. A friend of his did have proper access to that lab, and that friend gave him some space in a room in the building to work in - he had set up his computer there. Whether it's true - I don't know. However, I believe it was not brought up in the trial.

And he was not charged with regards to nuclear material. As I said, the initial charges were on visa fraud and lying to officials. The next charge came on the 8th of January, 2004, and another later in March of that year. He was charged with providing or trying to provide communications services and equipment (Web sites + mailing lists), finanical support (money), expert advice (computer skills) and personnel. Nuclear material does not fit into any of these categories. All public court documents were available for free at the time at the Idaho Courts site. However, looking at it now, since January 1st of this year, they now charge per page accessed, so I guess I can't point you there. However, I did keep a local copy of most of the publicly available documents uptill near the start of the trial, so I'll see if I can upload the indictments on the main Sami page (as it is not really related to Saleh). I'm also assuming that there is no copyright issue.

If you need more information, or have more questions, please post here or on the Sami page. I've made some claims here, and if any are disputed, I'll try to either upload the relevant court document or give you a story from the news media.

Finally, I don't object to mentioning nuclear material in this or the Sami article - as long as the information is provided accurately, along with context. As it currently stands, he simply was not charged with conspiring to provide nuclear material. Beetle B. 22:03, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]