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Fro personal attacks and wasting my time, feel free to use this page. I would move all related content to this set of pages. (No, you would not waste my time if you ask me something! If you are unsure about this issue, please compare two pages.) --millosh (talk (sr:)) 06:01, 16 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome and Description of standard Serbian language[edit]

Hello Millosh, welcome to Wikipedia. Regarding your question "what is the problem with Description of standard Serbian language" - I wasn't saying there was anything wrong with it in the long term, but at the time I looked at it, it didn't really have any content. Apart from links and references, it just had some notes about yourself. I temporarily redirected the page to Serbian language as it had not been worked on for a day. This doesn't stop you from going and finishing the article, but it couldn't be left in that state for too long else someone might have listed it for deletion. If you want to save an article before it is really in a state to be classed as an article, it might be better to start it in your user space first. For example, write it at User:Millosh/Description of standard Serbian language. Then, when it's finished, you can use the move this page link and move it to the actual encyclopedia. If an article is redirected, you can still edit it. At the top of the Serbian language page, you will see (Redirected from Description of standard Serbian language). Click on the link to Description of standard Serbian language, and then click edit, and you can overwrite the redirect, or better still go to the page history and get your original version up, then click edit. Your work hasn't been lost, and I wasn't saying there was anything wrong with it. I hope that makes sense. If not, drop me a note on my talk page. I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Angela. 19:36, 8 Dec 2003 (UTC)


Hi Millosh, I'm afraid I don't have any power to move Wikipedia to UTF-8. This could only be done by the Wikipedia:Developers. The suggestion that it was moved to UTF-8 was made on the mailing list last month. See the Switching everything to UTF-8 thread, which I think concluded with Brion saying "We're not making a switch of the existing Latin-1 phase3 wikis to UTF-8 until compatibility code is in place." This is because there are browsers which would damage pages in UTF-8.

Regarding the Description of Serbian Language, if the pages are not complete enough, then they are best started in your user space, though it shouldn't take much to get them into a form that could stay in the main namespace, and all pages are a work-in-progress, so this is fine. You can ask at Wikipedia:peer review or the Village pump for help from others if you want more people involved. Angela. 20:04, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I'm sorry I acted on the request without checking whether there was sufficient support for this. However, as you are the only admin, and recently a bureaucrat, I do think it is important that the Serbian Wikipedia gets at least one more admin fairly soon. I have no opinion on whether or not that should be Avala. I have suggested to Avala that a vote be set up so that the community can decide whether to grant sysop access. I have reverted my sysopping of Avala as all such adminships are subject to community approval, which this one doesn't seem to have. I will leave this in your hands now as you are a bureaucrat at sr, so you can decide whether to resysop Avala. Sorry if this has caused you any inconvenience. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help. I have also sent you an email. Angela. 17:19, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I just realised Никола Смоленски is also an admin there now, so ignore my other comment about needing more sysops. Angela. 17:25, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I tried resending it directly rather than through the "email this user" link. Angela. 18:19, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Serbian Main Page[edit]

Wow, that's quite a change. It looks good, but the colors are a little dark. Having red links on a red backround isn't very accessible. Perhaps it could be faded a little bit? Angela. 13:25, Jul 31, 2004 (UTC)

It looks better now. :) I just noticed the Serbian Wikipedia hit 1000 articles too. If you know which date that happened, you might want to add it to Wikipedia:Announcements#Number of article milestones and m:Wikimedia News. Angela. 10:22, Aug 1, 2004 (UTC)
I guess if no one removed it, they must think it's important enough. :) Angela. 21:24, Aug 1, 2004 (UTC)

A message Millosh sent to Juuitchan[edit]

I (Juuitchan) got this message:

Hello, I am Millosh and I think I saw your text about Serbian Orthodox Church linked from Serbian Wikipedia. I gave to my friend, admin of Theological Faculty of Serbian Orthodox Church, your link on sr: and I think he will contact you soon. --Millosh 12:34, 31 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I think you sent it to the wrong person by mistake.

Serbian -> Roman transliteration[edit]

If you want Roman script, why not write the conversion program yourself, and have "script" be an option in the skin? If you don't want it, don't use it!

If the articles are written in Cyrillic script, that would probably cause no problem for viewing; it is only in case of wanting to edit that you might have a problem. (The only problem with viewing might be if you have Cyrillic characters used to write non-Serbian text in the article.)


Hi Millosh. If the issue is just technical, you should send an email to wikitech mailing list. However, if there are likely to be non-techincal objections as well, you might want to discuss it at wikipedia-l first. Angela. 11:39, Aug 7, 2004 (UTC)

--

Sorry, I'm not logging in frequently here. Please become a member of the mailing list for the pywikipediabot. The documentation is basically part of the source code, but if you want to know more, you're welcome to ask on the mailing list. Rob Hooft 14:31, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Paprika[edit]

Pogledaj na: dictionary.com Merriam-Webster Compact Oxford English Dictionary MSN Encarta

Svi kazu da je rec "paprika" madjarskog porekla. A madjarska rec "paprika" je srpskog porkela od reci "papar". Dakle, madjarska je rec u sustini, mada je koren iz srpskog. --Dejan Cabrilo 06:41, 7 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Od 'papar' do 'paprika' postoji cista slovenska/srpska derivacija... E, sad. Ne mogu da tvrdim, ali... Ipak, naravno, Webster i Oksfordski recnik su respektabilni... --Millosh 09:24, 7 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

sr wiki[edit]

Milose, ako ti nije problem, reci mi kada si na IRC-u. Ja sam sada na #wikipedia-sr, username Pechorin, i ostacu ulogovan celu noc (po centralno-evropskom vremenu). --Dejan Cabrilo 22:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Origin of Serbs[edit]

Pasuti? Paštuni? In any event, da nisam i prije cuo takve price, zvucalo bi kao hrpa original researcha, a to ne bi bilo dobro.

Mislim da je glavni problem kod ovih prica to sto se za ne falit uvijek propusta naglasiti da su svi dokazi zapravo vrlo posredni i vrlo djelomicni, te da su bazirani na filoloskim i etimoloskim razmatranjima, a to je vrlo klimavo u usporedbi s necime recimo sto bi se iskopalo iz tada-suvremenih povijesnih zapisa, ili iz arheoloskih nalaza. Dok god ovi potonji dokazi ne potvrde ove prve, ne smije se nigdje propustiti naglasiti da su to interpolacije, a nakon toga neka se prica sto god se moze povezati, u biti. --Joy [shallot] 19:26, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Pozdrav. Moram reci, nijednu jedinu rijec nisam razum[j]eo. :D --VKokielov 01:23, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Serbian portal[edit]

As the amount of material somehow connected with Serbs and Serbia on Wikipedia grows, I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to form a SCG/Serb portal, so that all the articles about famous Serbs, Serb history, the Serb republic etc are more closely interlinked. This would also provide the casual reader with a easy to use encyclopaedia of everything they could wish to know about RS, SCG, the Serb diaspora etc. Јес' да је Србија мала и да је мало Срба али ипак има Палестински портал, Doctor Who портал, зато нема разлога да и ми ово не покренемо. At this stage I'm just gauging the amount of interest out there for this. If you support this idea, and want to help out, then just drop by my talk page -- estavisti 20:02, 12 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

OCS[edit]

I'm not sure where have you taken this bastardized name from, but I have to admit that the ъіиь cluster was particularly amusing. -- Naive cynic 02:15, 15 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Duklja[edit]

I noticed your questions about Stefan Vojislav. He was a Serb, ofcourse, he founded the House of Vojislavljevići from which is King Mihailo, the first Serb King. (look at List_of_Serbian_rulers) HolyRomanEmperor 12:56, 24 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No, thank you; not just now, at least[edit]

No thank you. I am already busy enough on this encyclopedia; and I saw that Skenderbeg was concidered as a Serb (I had changed it). HolyRomanEmperor 19:40, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

User Categorization[edit]

You were listed on the Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Serbia and Montenegro page as living in or being associated with Serbia and Montenegro. As part of the Wikipedia:User categorisation project, these lists are being replaced with user categories. If you would like to add yourself to the category that is replacing the page, please visit Category:Wikipedians in Serbia and Montenegro for instructions. -Alekk 23:11, 30 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Emir Arven[edit]

Hello, please refrain from making personal attacks on other users. GeneralPatton 03:34, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Vlachs[edit]

Moved to User talk:Millosh/PA Archive 1#Vlachs. --millosh (talk (sr:)) 06:01, 16 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

War statistics from Yugoslavic wars[edit]

Hello my name is Andreas Brandt, and as you can read on my userpage I am planning to write an article about the actual war data/statistics from the wars in Yugoslavia. But everywhere you turn you hear different information, croats have their numbers and serbs and bosniacs their. So I need to get the point of view from all three different parts in order the make a good fair article.

And I do believe you're serbian or at least you are on the serbian wikipedia so please can you help me out with the article and as well introduce me to other balkanusers on the english wikipedia. I need all the thoughts and help I can get.

And there's another thing as well; I must say your talkpage looks terrible, there is a whole chapter dedicated to an argument with another user on the english wikipedia and as well some other personal non wikipedia relevant information. Please clean up your talkpage, and don't take it as personal but wikipedia is a place for knowledge and everything containing it, so it really gets me in a bad mood when I get to read on someone's userpage (in this case yours) about some argument or personal attacks. Wikipedia is simply not a place for that kind of nonsense, so please clean up your talkpage. And once again it's nothing personal and I am looking forward your help with the article. FranzFerdinand

As I am not historician nor I am good introduced in the war statistics from Yugoslav wars, I can suggest to you to contact User:PANONIAN and User:Nikola Smolenski, who have data about the war (Serbian side). You can contact User:Joy (Croatian side) and User:Emir Arven (Bosniak side). --millosh (talk (sr:)) 18:52, 14 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Fascistic personal attacs against me should stay here until I archive it. This is talk page, not user page nor article page. --millosh (talk (sr:)) 18:52, 14 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]


Milos Rancic[edit]

Moved to User talk:Millosh/PA Archive 1#Milos Rancic. --millosh (talk (sr:)) 06:01, 16 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I am back. DId you mean anything in presice when you invited me to join the Serbian encyclopedia? HolyRomanEmperor 16:33, 16 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Outdated data ?[edit]

Moved to User talk:Millosh/PA_Archive_1#Outdated_data_.3F. --millosh (talk (sr:)) 20:49, 20 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Sorry for Serbian wiki, but no_can_do. It seems that I can only edit in English wikipedia (I have no idea whatsoever why) HolyRomanEmperor 21:45, 2 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It appears that I can only edit in English wiki... :( (regarding your invitation) HolyRomanEmperor 21:55, 2 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Satrovacki[edit]

Millosh, you can not just go about slapping POV tags willy nilly. Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it POV. Please be reasonable about it. If you think it's POV, go to the talk page, try to explain what exactly and how is POV (try to pin point the exact POV if you see it). I'm not sure what your agenda is exactly, but do keep some good faith at every point.

Shtokavian is not a good alternative for "Serbo-Croatian languages", because it's simply a dialect. Now, Bosnian, Croatian, Serbian and Serbo-Croatian (as it was once used in Serbo-Croatian) is a better solution, but rather rugged and not particularly good prose. If you want to make a case for "Bosnian, Croatian, Serbian and Serbo-Croatian", than do so. POV tag is not resolving an issue, it's creating it.

Besides, you probably want to dispute the factual accuracy of that article in the first place, and not it's point of view. --Dejan Čabrilo 18:31, 3 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]


Democratic Party[edit]

I would appreciate if you would put condemnation of Amnesty and Human Rights with your statement. If that is not a problem of course.

--Trigor 19:12, 3 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I added four links from HRW; I'll add links from AI soon. --millosh (talk (sr:)) 11:49, 5 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Like I said, my edits work on English wiki only :S HolyRomanEmperor 20:46, 3 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Birthday![edit]

User:Jenmoa/birthday --User:Jenmoa 01:14, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks[edit]

Thank you for getting Wikipedia permission to use the article on Millosh Gjergj Nikolla. (And of course also thanks to the author Robert Elsie for granting it.) If I ever need to do something like that I will use your page as an example. Tom Harrison (talk) 00:19, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I hope that we could still be friends (after that Montenegrin language)... You must understand that it is to my believe that none "lower" than the Serbo-Croatian language exists... HolyRomanEmperor 11:44, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I have discovered that the situation with Ivan Gundulić is the same as with Ruđer Bošković. Do you have anything that could help? HolyRomanEmperor 15:53, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I guess that Croatian propaganda wins, look: Rudjer Boskovic HolyRomanEmperor 18:08, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

( It appears that, no matter what I do or start to discuss, all folds down to my blood (so called ethnicity) or skin colour; I am thinking about permanently leaving wikipedia. HolyRomanEmperor 18:42, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Are you a linguist? HolyRomanEmperor 18:53, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

OK. So, are you a linguist? HolyRomanEmperor 19:12, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

What is this with you being and not being a Serb (Emir_Arven) ? (I don't care if you are or aren't, I just don't get the problem) HolyRomanEmperor 19:14, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ajoj, pogledaj contributions od Emira Arven, malo mu fali do vandalizma i troll statusa. Imam slabu konekciju, ali zelim da upozorim administratore na njega... Jel' se slazes? HolyRomanEmperor 18:54, 24 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

well thank you Millosh. Believe it or not, I'm not more a Slavist than a Persianist or a Polynesianist. I travelled the whole world when I was younger, have lived in eight countries and have developed a love for all languages, mainly ethnolinguistics. I have edited/discussed on many language matters outside the Balkan/Slavic regions. Another thing few people actuially realise, I use Wikipedia to learn more than to air my views, but as you know - ones views DO develop! I'm more interested in reading what you, and Duja, and Makedon (in the case of Torlakian) have to say than actually argue saying 'no, that is not right' like some of the other ghastly discussions :)
I did study linguistics in university and in 1991, I embarked on a thesis on language variation among related people living in adjacent regions, and to this I used Serbo-Croat as the central theme for the essays. Firstly, I speak reasonable Russian which gives me a conceptual understanding of Slavic languages, that puts me over the first hurdle, then there is the fact that I had kept communication with people from Yugoslavia, old and young, of all religions, and in each republic, but most of my work was down to scripts and literature. Today my work is in advertising and we have business partners all over Europe as well as long term Serbs, Croats etc based at our London office - and they get on very well, no politics there! Just the way it should be...
I responded on the Torlakian talk before logging in but you'll see that nothing is aimed at disagreement!
Talk to you again soon Celtmist 26-11-05

Jel' imas sada vremena da se pozabavis onim kontroverznim temama? HolyRomanEmperor 17:36, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Pa, Elephantus sad sve drzi pod kontrolom. Npr. ispostavilo se da Ivo Andric uopste nije bio srpski-orijentisan (nije se izjasnjavao tako), a i mislio sam na Ivana Gundulica.... HolyRomanEmperor 21:28, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

A gdje nabavljas te info (je si li ti u nekoj tajnoj sluzbi?) Ono sto me konkretno zanima je da li ista postoji sto kaze da je Ivo bio srpsko-orijentisan (izjasnjavao) i da li bi trebalo staviti u clanke o Rudjeru i Gundulicu ulice koje su imenovane po njima? HolyRomanEmperor 20:38, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

So, you have nothing authentic enough for Ivo Andric? OK, thanks anyway then. HolyRomanEmperor 22:19, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I have been blocked permanently on the Bosnian wiki - User:Emir_Arven is the leading administrator there... :))) HolyRomanEmperor 18:20, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Jesi li citao OSMANa od Ivana Gundulica? HolyRomanEmperor 20:08, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hvala kolega Miranche 23:03, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Serbian Wikipedia[edit]

Hi Millosh,

My Serbian is still very, very poor, and, worst of all, here at work I don't have the script for Cyrillic alphabet. I tried to install it, but it didn't work. Anyway, I'll see how I can help when I'm at home (there, I can write in Cyrillic alphabet, I have it installed in my computer.

Anyway, I'll keep reading Serbian Wikipedia, I believe it's a good way to learn!

Thanks,

Milena 10:38, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, thanks! I didn't know that Serbian Wikipedia would have a Latin version! Anyway, I tried to search for articles about Brazil, and even though I typed it in Latin alphabet, I managed to find the main article. I could see many broken links there, it seems there's a lot of articles that need to be created. Although I feel I need to study and learn a lot more, I'll do my best to help! Milena 11:42, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"Two-alphabets" Wikipedias[edit]

Dear Milosh, I heard about the project of automatic transcriptions between Cyrillic and Latin at sr.wiki. I'd like to ask you what is achieved till now in this sense? I'm from the romany.wiki, test phase, (the one you made a comment in the wikimedia mailing list), where we want also a dual alphabet script. Thank you, Desiphral 17:06, 18 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Možda bi glasao za moju administraturu? HolyRomanEmperor 17:02, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Bošnjani[edit]

I've filled out the article. Hopefully its what you had in mind. Live Forever 05:00, 31 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Crkveni kalendar na sr. Glavnoj strani?!?![edit]

Zamolio bih te kao predsednika Wikimedije SCG da obratiš pažnju na grubo kršenje principa WIkipedije. Trenutno se na sr. Glavnoj strani nalazi crkveni kalendar!?!? Ovo nije crkvena Wikipedija, a kalendare takve vrste treba potencirati na portalima o hrišćanstvu. Upravo je potenciranje ovoga na Glavnoj strani izazvalo sukob mene i antisemite Jovana. Ako se ovako nastavi, izgubiću snagu u borbi protiv desničara koji sve više polako okupiraju Wikipediju na srpskom jeziku. --M. Pokrajac 22:17, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

...A dotični se još jednom navukao na tanak led pristrasno uređujući članak Otačastveni pokret Obraz... --M. Pokrajac 23:31, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you have some info...[edit]

...on Milan Rešetar and/or Pero Budmani; please tell me (I can't find anything on those two; and as far as I heard; they're actually famous writers) --HolyRomanEmperor 16:59, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fuck the border[edit]

Thanks, I should have noticed that ;) - FrancisTyers 00:46, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there Millosh, Im Moe Epsilon. I would like for you to join in of the conversation about the above user at Wikipedia talk:Are You a Wikipediholic Test about his possible fake score on the test. I contacted you because you were one of the top scorers on the test, so you could probably tell if the score is fake or not. We would appriciate your input. — Moe ε 21:19, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Moldovan Wikipedia[edit]

Hello Millosh,

first of all I am sorry that you were welcome as you were on our pages. Now, to find out more about how we (Moldovans and Romanians) look at this issue, you could look at [Wikipedia-l] Why MO.wikipedia. - Moldovan, are written in cyrillic ? http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2005-December/042926.html, [Wikipedia-l] mo. cyrillic -> mo-cyr., when ? http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2006-January/043309.html. If you haven't yet done this.

What concerns the mo.wiki, it was created without any Moldovan or Romanian approval with the 100% effort of Node. Now Node fights desperately for his work not to get deleted. We consider this Wikipedia a complete aberration. Cyrillic alphabet was imposed to us during the communist era and we got rid of it as soon as we got our independance. We want that a Cyrillic Moldovan/Cyrillic Romanian encyclopedia not exist. Transnistria - it is also imposed, and people there are fighting to get back to the latin script.

However, I do agree that the election's page has to be in English for it to be recognized throughout Wikimedia.

"What do you think about that? --millosh (discuţii | дискуций (sr:)) 04:25, 14 January 2006 (UTC)" As far as I know Oleg Alexandrov would have never said this. This is just a very very interesting interpretation of his words. Dmitriid - I am almost sure that he comes from a Russian speaking family: such (some of them, not all) do not like Romanians, the least to say. --landroni 11:22, 17 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Millosh! It says on my user page that I can contribute with an advanced level of Serbian, but in fact I know only a little. The reason why it appears that way is that I ask my parents for help. I don't know Latin either, but I have the help of my dad. Whatsoever, this was the first time I needed Serbian in Wikipedia, and it happened that I'll be away from home for a month. I'm sorry for the delay in reply, but I'd be very glad to cooperate with you in the matter of old Albanian writers. Thank you in advance for showing your interest in the field.--Pjetër Bogdani III 00:54, 18 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Permissions from Robert Elsie[edit]

Could you please forward this email to permissions at wikimedia dot org along with the titles of the articles for which you copied the contents from Mr Elsie's site? After that's done, please go to the talk page of each article that's been copied and add the following template: {{confirmation|URL}}, replacing "URL" with the URL of the page where you copied the content from. That way, those articles won't be processed as copyright violations. Thanks. howcheng {chat} 23:45, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Istorija jezika[edit]

Dakle, ti si lingvista, ba bih ti postavio par pitanja, ako nemas nista protiv: Da li vremenska podijela ide ovako:

  • Staro(crkveno)slovenski jezik
  • Crkvenoslovenski jezik
  • Slavenoserbski jezik
  • Srpski jezik

Ako ide, da li se dijele prva dva na 3 redakcije (Hrvatsku, Bugarsku i Srpsku) ili ih ima jos.

Da li mozda znas neki sajt gdje mogu naci o tome detalje?

Hvala unaprijed! --HolyRomanEmperor 13:11, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Takodjer, vidim da si bio u Serbian Unity Congressu. Imao sam sukob sa Emirom Arvenom. Iskoristio sam taj sajt za izvor jedne informacije. O Bosanskome Banu Stjepanu II Kotromanicu. Dakle, moj source je negiran, jer je Emir prilozio ovo: [1].
Mozes li malo pomoci u tome? Je li je stvarno SUC stvoren za sirenje srpske nacionalisticke propagande i da li u clanku zasluzuje da stoji to sto SUC pise? --HolyRomanEmperor 13:31, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Prvo da ti kazem oko SUC-a: Tamo se nalaze i vrlo relevantne i izuzetno problematicno relevantne stvari. Sajt je "s pocetka Interneta" dugo bio jedini iole znacajan sajt o Srbiji i Srbima na engleskom, pa je tu nakaceno svasta: i relevantnog i nerelevantnog i naucnog i propagatorskog. U tom smislu treba biti pazljiv. Ja se ne razumem u istoriju srednjovekovne Bosne, tako da ti u slucaju Stjepana II Kontromanica mogu biti od male pomoci. Inace, SUC jeste organizacija ciji je jedan od osnovnih ciljeva lobiranje za interese Srbije. Opet je tu pitanje sta se od materijala koristi. Uzmimo, veliki deo njihovih izvora predstavljaju marksisti iz Antiwara, tako da je tesko razgraniciti sta su manje a sta vise relevantni tekstovi tamo. --millosh (talk (sr:)) 15:04, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  1. Staroslovenski jezik je vestacki jezik nastao na osnovu govora Slovena oko Soluna. --millosh (talk (sr:)) 15:04, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Na osnovu staroslovenskog nastale su tzv. "redakcije staroslovenskog jezika": --millosh (talk (sr:)) 15:04, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    1. bugarska; --millosh (talk (sr:)) 15:04, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      1. Na osnovu bugarske redakcije nastala je izmena srpskoslovenskog jezika, koju je u vreme Stefana Lazarevica izvrsio bugarski ucenjak Konstantin Filozof. --millosh (talk (sr:)) 15:04, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    2. srpska; --millosh (talk (sr:)) 15:04, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      1. Na osnovu srpske redakcije nastao je srpskoslovenski jezik. Taj jezik je bio dominantan u Srbiji sve do vremena Stefana Lazarevica i primer za taj jezik su dela Svetog Save. --millosh (talk (sr:)) 15:04, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    3. ruska; --millosh (talk (sr:)) 15:04, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      1. Na osnovu ruske redakcije nastao je ruskoslovenski jezik. --millosh (talk (sr:)) 15:04, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
        1. Na osnovu ruskoslovenskog jezika i jezika Moskve i njene okoline nastao je ruski standardni jezik. --millosh (talk (sr:)) 15:04, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
        2. Na osnovu ruskoslovenskog jezika nastao je crkvenoslovenski jezik, koji je danas u kanonskoj upotrebi Srpske pravoslavne crkve (od 18. veka). --millosh (talk (sr:)) 15:04, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    4. rumunska; --millosh (talk (sr:)) 15:04, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    5. (verovatno jos neke, ali sam to zaboravio). --millosh (talk (sr:)) 15:04, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
OK, hvala. Znaci smatracu SUC na invalid source za wikipediju.
Da, postojala je jos i Hrvatska recenzija. Dakle to se opet svodi na moje sekundarno pitanje (o srednjovijekovnoj Bosni). Koja redakcija je tu bila - Srpska ili Hrvatska? Ako vidis Stjepanov clanak, vidjeces da je pisao na Latinskom i Srpskom - a kasnije rekao da mu je Hrvatski jezik materinji.
Inace, hvala ti puna za informacije o jeziku. Ali mi je Crkvenoslovenski jezik i dalje nepoznat.
Pozdrav! --HolyRomanEmperor 21:15, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Marksisti iz Antiwara bi, teorijski, po pitanjima vezanim za dogadjanja u bivsoj SFRJ, trebalo da budu relevantni. Mada sam video tekst koji je na liniji pobijanja masakra u Srebrenici. Ukupno, kad je SUC u pitanju, znaci da bi svaki tekst dodatno trebalo proveriti. Moze biti relevantan, stavise, ima vrlo relevantnih stvari tamo. (Uostalom, ne treba samo prema SUC-u kao izvoru biti pazljiv, elementarna naucna etika govori da sve treba uzimati sa rezervom.) --millosh (talk (sr:)) 06:48, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Crkvenoslovenski jezik je jednostavno ruska redakcija staroslovenskog jezika, koja je zbog istorijskih uslova (od onih zemalja u kojima je staroslovenski bio sakralni jezik jedino je Rusija ostala nezavisna) jedina (cini mi se) ostala ziva. Nju su preuzele i druge slovenske pravoslavne crkve, pa tako crkvenoslovenski jezik predstavlja savremenu etapu u razvoju staroslovenskog jezika, koja je prosla kroz Rusku pravoslavnu crkvu. Uzmimo, kao da se latinski jezik vise izmenio npr. u Nemackoj (a nije se izmenio puno) i kao takav ostao jedini sakralni jezik Rimokatolicke crkve. --millosh (talk (sr:)) 06:48, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hvala, Milloshe. Jos samo da te informisem da sam zapoceo Wikipedia:WikiProject Belgrade. Pozdrav! --HolyRomanEmperor 18:31, 26 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

carramba[edit]

this is not an attack but a criticism. please check your spelling before posting examples in a language you don't speak. "carramba" is not a valid word in spanish, english, or any other language i know of. ("caramba" is a spanish exclamation, lacking the trilled 'rr' sound you referred to.) Aaronbrick 06:44, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Answer is on User talk:Aaronbrick. --millosh (talk (sr:)) 18:50, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion[edit]

I noticed that you tagged the page Image:Vasari.jpg for speedy deletion with the reason "Moved to commons". However, "Moved to commons" is not currently one of our criteria for speedy deletion, so I have removed the speedy deletion tag. You can use WP:IFD if you still want the article to be deleted. Thanks! Stifle 00:26, 4 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am under the impression he may be a sockpuppet of one of the most controversial editors in the Kosovo article. This sort of throwaway accounts have been appearing quite too often nowadays. This particular wikipedian also made threat-sounding remarks on the issue: "... before it is too late" [2]. I have so far not asked for a CheckUser (as these are generally declined for throwaway accounts). I also marked File:Kurac.JPG for speedy deletion. Regards, Asterion 22:38, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

History[edit]

Primetih da si pitao Joy-a u vezi s Stefanom Vojislavom. Da li te nesto konkretno interesuje u vezi toga? --HolyRomanEmperor 20:16, 12 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]