Talk:Ariadne

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The Romans called her Libera What's the connection with Ariadne? It would have to be through a Roman connection of Libera and Bacchus? Not all Greek myth has a Roman counterpart. Wetman 18:55, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I removed this here: "According to some scholars there were two Ariadnes, the first was the wife of Dionysus who was slain by Perseus, and later recovered by the god from Hades, while the second, who lived two generations later was the love of Theseus. Little evidence exists for this however." Mythic time does not divide so securely. However, if a Greek mythographer suggests that there were two Ariadnes, that's worth explaining in the article. --Wetman 01:19, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, this makes sense. The two generations are probably a construct of Apollodorus, and the article reads like a copyvio from Robert Graves; hence the etymology. Septentrionalis 23:26, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not in Graves; which suggests it is spurious, or at least modern. Septentrionalis 18:28, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The classical sources are quoted in excerpts at http://www.theoi.com/Georgikos/Ariadne.html .--Wetman (talk) 07:16, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That red yarn[edit]

"...a ball of red fleece thread that she was spinning..." Where does the red detail come up? Is this one of those examples of "tell it in your own words and improvise realistic details"? --Wetman (talk) 07:16, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lombardo Sculpture[edit]

An editor may wish to post the stunning photo of Lombardo's Sculpture Bacchus and Ariadne at [1]. It's associated with the article [2].zaslaw (talk) 14:51, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

She Never Liked Him[edit]

The reality behind the myth is that Thesea was the love of Ariadnos' life and Dionysos was always screwing things up for them with his poisons! Ariadnos just wondered where Thesea ran off to after they got out of the labyrinth...

98.230.60.95 (talk) 18:13, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Minoan Time and Ariadne[edit]

For an insightful take on the mythologic connection between Ariadne's weaving, timekeeping and the surprisingly modern concept of spaciotemporal entanglement, see the following text:

Title: The thread of Ariadne; the labyrinth of the calendar of Minos Author: Charles F. Herberger Subjects: Palace of Knossos (Knossos); Mythology, Minoan; Calendar, Minoan Description: Bibliography: p. 156-158. Publisher: New York, Philosophical Library (1972) ISBN: 0802220894

69.63.16.254 (talk) 01:27, 20 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ariadne on Naxos: discrepancies[edit]

1. "In Hesiod and most other accounts, Theseus abandoned Ariadne sleeping on Naxos, and Dionysus rediscovered and wedded her".

I never read a text by Hesiod that says anything about Ariadne. If the text is available, a pointer to the source must be provided.

The only sources that seems to hint Ariadne fell asleep are Hyginus (Fabulae, 43) and Pausanias (Description of Greece, 1.20.3). However, Hyginus says Liber (Dionysus) “took her away and married her” but Pausanias says Dionysus carried Ariadne off (no mentioning of marriages).

2. "In a few versions of the myth (Diodorus Siculus iv. 61, v. 51; Pausanias, i. 20. § 2, ix. 40. § 2, x. 29. § 2.), Dionysus appeared to Theseus as they sailed away from Crete, saying that he had chosen Ariadne as his wife and demanding that Theseus leave her on Naxos for him".

Diodorus Siculus (Library of History, Book IV 61.5) says Dionysus appeared on the island and, because Ariadnê was beautiful, he took her away from Theseus, married her and lover her very much.

Pausanias (Description of Greece, 1.20.3) appears to hint that Ariadne fell asleep, Theseus sailed away and Dionysus carried off Ariadne.

I did not find any specific statement about Dionysus appearing in Crete or any mention of demands from Dionysus.

I have no clue where "2, ix. 40. § 2, x. 29. § 2" are in the original texts since 2.9.40, 2.10.29 seem out of range and 2 is generic.

ICE77 (talk) 19:37, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Russian Doll"[edit]

The final episode of the eight-part 2019 American Netflix series "Russian Doll" is titled "Ariadne."Maccb (talk) 13:14, 3 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: History of Ancient Greece[edit]

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Ceramus[edit]

Under Children of Ariadne the link for Ceramus goes to the city of Ceramus which has no mention of the person Ceramus. Eldritch.dragon999 (talk) 16:33, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Link removed, as there isn't a page for the mythological figure. – Michael Aurel (talk) 23:31, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]