Talk:Cabinet of the United Kingdom

Ministerial Ranking: Raab too high?

In the ministerial rankings Raab is listed as 2nd, whereas in the official source he is 6th. I understand he might be placed there because he is deputy PM and has deputised at PMQs but I can't find any reliable sources stating that makes him second in the ranking. Furthermore, it was referred to as a 'demotion' from his previous post (for example here: .

This suggested edit also applies to Ministerial ranking .

I didn't want to edit without discussion because users such as JamesHawkes0161 seem to be on top of this but if there's a reason for deviating from the official government source I think it would be useful to note it in the page with sources

Vanteloop (talk) 11:15, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Currently gov.uk/government/ministers (the usual way the order is shown) is under maintenance, I think we should keep it like is, until the page is put back up. Then we can update once the official order is pubished JamesHawkes0161 (talk) 18:45, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Update: The previously mentioned gov.Uk page is back up and is in the same order as published on Wikipedia. Thank you for this discussion however. This discussion has ended JamesHawkes0161 (talk) 13:02, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

References

Location

The location of the cabinet room is said to be 10 Downing Street. While this may be the official position, the original cabinet room at 10 Downing Street was found to be too small. It is my understanding that the current cabinet room is round the corner in Whitehall (accessed internally). The photo on the article shows this building. The article does not cover the subject of the cabinet room, and its change of location; perhaps it should. FreeFlow99 (talk) 17:38, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

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Updated Cabinet Rankings

I noted today that the rankings were not current. Interestingly enough the reference for Ministerial Ranking (parliament.uk) does not make a distinction between "Cabinet Minister" and "Also attends cabinet." Therefore, the table structure was maintained to distinguish the two, however each category is ranked by Ministerial Ranking. Graham Stuart did not make the cut, as he is neither listed as "Cabinet Minister" nor "Also attends cabinet." But according to Gov.UK, he ranks above Simon Hart (Also attends cabinet) and Penny Mordaunt (Cabinet Minister). I should add that the page from Gov.UK does not make claim to order the posts by ranking, though PM and Deputy are first and second. Conversely, Parliament.UK does specify ministerial ranking. 142.113.162.29 (talk) 17:06, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

Peel convention

I've been looking for sources on the "Peel convention" mentioned here and can't find anything good, it hasn't been mentioned in the Hansard for at least the last 100 years. Any idea were the phrase comes from? (the statements made about it here are true, but a recent Commons research briefing regarding Camerons appointment just calls it a convention, not Peel convention. It also contains some information on limits on the number of (salaried) ministers which seem to be missing from the relevent articles for the Cabinet or Ministers of the Crown and should probably be added by someone better versed in such subjects.) -- jonas (talk) 20:29, 19 November 2023 (UTC)