Talk:Nigel Molesworth

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"Grown ups are what's left when skool is finished." N Molesworth

Molesworth, spelling, and reverts[edit]

Please don't revert edits for poor spelling or bad grammar unless you're familiar with the Molesworth books and can tell the difference between verbatim quotes and actual bad spelling. Thanks! --Mpk 08:54, 14 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just a quick note to would-be cleaner-uppers: please do not capitalise nigel's name! Loganberry 02:13, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Oh, all right. I was a young and callow Wikipedian back then! Loganberry (Talk) 03:19, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Whizz/Wizz[edit]

I've checked my copy of the 2000 Penguin reprint, and the title of the third Molesworth book is written as "Whizz for Atomms", both in the contents, and in the reproduction of the original title page (p207 in the reprint). Nmg 14:48, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Molesworth 2[edit]

What is the warrant for the assertion that he may be called George, please? Paul Magnussen (talk) 22:40, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Back in the Jug Agane, Chapter 5, s.v. TOUGH GURLS. "She also refer to molesworth 2 as 'my bruther george'." Penguin Classics 1999 edition, page 394. Tevildo (talk) 00:09, 7 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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"See below" - where, exactly[edit]

"The school's traditional local rivals are Porridge Court and Hogwarts (see below), who regularly beat them at sporting events."

There *is* no further mention of Hogwarts below (at the time of writing). Sloppy editing. (As usual).

Thoroughly disillusioned[edit]

... by the way Wikipedia *continues* to deliver low-resolution "mobile" versions of articles to devices which are high resolution. This is, as the English saying goes, "piss-poor". Wikipedia may be a volunteer run, charity-type organisation (albeit one which delivers one heck of an income! directly or indirectly, and fame a-plenty to Mr. Wales), but there really is no excuse for such appalling understanding of HTML, CSS and modern device resolution. In this respect the Wikipedia experience is set in the technological Stone Age. "Get a grip", Wikipedia (as another English saying goes). <<Posted by IP address: 86.130.101.193 >>

Influence of Molesworth books in literature cheers cheers[edit]

Research opportunity. tho nigel's books are foolishly forgotten boo sucks you kno who was reading them when you realize moles worth's diaryvoice and attitude to world are identacle to Bridget Jones diary and the name "Hogwarts" appears in Molesworth so any fule kno what grate lady novelist hem hem never forgot reading him when she was a gurl Profhum (talk) 04:58, 26 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Searle disillusioned?[edit]

How, pray, was Searle 'disillusioned' by his own St Trinian's creation? Was he perhaps merely weary of it, having run out of ideas? Disgruntled, perchance might be another word? Disenchanted ? 2001:44B8:3102:BB00:E56B:9377:5DBE:2E29 (talk) 19:59, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Original Molesworth[edit]

Willans' original Molesworth series dates from the years of WWII. Some have been reprinted in 'The Punch Book of Kids' (ed. Coren). Hutchinson, 1974 ISBN 0091212006. The humour is somewhat difficult to appreciate, being much concerned with then current events, using ephemeral war-time slang, addressing war-time issues etc. For example, Nigel and brother are temporarily relocated to a girls' school, due to their father (mistakenly) being sent on embarkation leave. The situation is puzzling now, but must have made sense, and been comedic material, at the time. BTW,FWIW, and IMNSHO, the Adrian Mole series owes much to this early Willans. There is much in this WWII series about the hapless Molesworth parents, and even a spirited grandmother - all very 'Mole-ish' 59.167.234.198 (talk) 23:27, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

So called phonetic spelling[edit]

Does anyone know - in order that the article can explain - why the spelling in these books is as it is? It is not phonetic, as stated, because this means "relating to speech sounds". The famous phrase "as any fule kno" isn't phonetic inasmuch as it reads back as "as any fool know", which isn't anything anyone would say. One would say "as any fool knows" and phonetically this would become "as any fule knose", or something.

This dropping of the last s of the third person is passim throughout the books. There are further examples on the article: "it is only fotherington-tomas he sa Hullo clouds hullo sky he is a girlie and love the scents and sounds of nature", i.e. "he say hullo, he love the scents"; and in this talk section, "She also refer to molesworth 2".

I get that an illiterate schoolboy might spell phonetically but what's up with these examples, which are non-phonetic?Tirailleur (talk) 11:39, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The headmaster's school[edit]

I just discovered that there is a Stoke-on-Trent College. JHobson3 (talk) 13:09, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Looks a bit, well, modern for GRIMES to have studied there. Anyone been able to find out when it was established? Mr Larrington (talk) 00:33, 10 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]