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February 8, 2005Featured article candidateNot promoted

Welcome to the Page[edit]

The comments about the request for "Featured Article" status indicate that several people think that this request was premature. I agree, with that, but I do think that it will be a fine article and worthy of featured article status with a bit more work. I've changed the title of the "Unorganized material" section, but anyone who a better way of incorporating it should go ahead. Sunray 04:10, 2005 Feb 8 (UTC)

To the Troll who entered the sentence "While the pizza of Canada is delicious," There are people who actually read this article, you bloody punk! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:120B:2C17:2AA0:D9EE:A55A:14BC:63A7 (talk) 00:21, 31 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

What is needed[edit]

Here is a list of things that must be done berfore the article is fit for Featured article submition

*Write up Geography_of_Canada#The_Arctic done

  • Expand the other sections to be more comprehensive
    • Include more material about secondary, but notable features, like secondary mountain ranges, notable rivers and lakes... Have to re-read my writing to check this one
    • Separate Canadian rockies and Pacific coast comments on this one? I didn't manage to do it, unfortunately
    • Create a section on the maritimes (specific Atlantic coast geography) this should be inserted into Appalachain mountains
  • Create an Hydrography section, including a link to rivers of Canada done
    • The new Hydrography section really needs a map of the the 5 main canadian watersheds - anyone have one or feel up to the task of making one? -Lommer | talk 19:09, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
      • I already pointed out lower we need more maps. I'm afraid I lack sourche for that. Circeus 14:03, Mar 9, 2005 (UTC)
      • I inserted such a map from the Atlas of Canada and a link at the bottom of the page where one can find more.--Paddlebot 01:48, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
      • As I have an interest in rivers and having noted that the organization of rivers in wiki is an oxymoron, as time and interest permits I'd like to clean it up, starting with the reorganization of Canadian Rivers by drainage rather than province. If any interest or comments, please add to "List of rivers in Canada" discussion. --Paddlebot 01:48, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Create an ecogeography section about the main ecologic regions found in Canada. See Nearctic (maybe too specific) and Floristic province: Rockies, west of the rockies, tundra, plains, coniferous boreal forest, mixed forest, Broadleaf forest (can be divided in more specific areas, but these are the needed ones for te purpose of this article)
  • Merge, expand, or delete the Natural hazards and Current environmental issues sections which are copied straight out of the CIA World Factbook [1].
  • Appropriate Geological, ecological and hydrographic maps
  • Not necessary but would make a good impression not to have a bunch or red links under See also

Continental Divide vs continental divide[edit]

I prefer the more general description: not everyone is aware that capitalizing the words designate a specific divide. I wasn't. besides, the Rockies form the Continental Divide everywhere in north America, don't they? Wouldn't it be a little ridiculous to state the fact as if they did only in Canada? The wording, for one that isn't aware of the nuance, also implies there are only 2 watersheds in Canada.Circeus 19:01, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)

I see your points, I just feel that the contintental divide we are talking about is the Continental Divide, not just any one and this should be reflected in how we link to it. There is a specific article on this specific continental divide - let's use it. I don't really think it implies only 2 watersheds, but I can see the concern and maybe that's something that can be adequately addressed in the Continental Divide article or in the hydrology section? As for the wording, maybe it can be changed so as to not give the silly impression that the rockies formed the continental divide only in canada.-Lommer | talk 19:22, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I've actually mentionned the Continental Divide in the Hydrology section. second-to-last paragraph, the one about the Pacific watershed. Circeus 20:16, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)

Satellite imagery[edit]

This page could really use some great satellite imagery, I think that would go a long to improving it. Anyone have any GFDL compatible images? I love this one but it's mostly of the U.S. and so I don't think it's the best for the job. -Lommer | talk 01:13, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I'm still looking for good satellite images of Canada. The best I've found so far is this unfortunately copyrighted one [2]. -Lommer | talk 19:09, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Image of Canada in darkness[edit]

File:NorthAmericaSatelliteImage.jpg
This satellite photo of North America shows most of Canada.

When I first saw this satellite image, I thought someone had added it as a joke. It shows the U.S. in brilliant sunlight, capturing the eye immediately. Then, as one's eyes become accustomed to the dark, one can barely make out the image of Canada.

I know that it wasn't intended as a joke. It is a beautiful image, but I'm removing it from the article. We need to find an image that features Canada. Sunray 04:51, 2005 Mar 10 (UTC)

Canada isn't dark in that image - it's just the way our vegetation looks (look up north and see how bright it is). Anyways, I just threw it in there b/c I figured it was better than nothing. It doesn't show the maritimes/quebec and some of the yukon, which is why I've been looking for a better image rather than just cropping that one down. -Lommer | talk 21:30, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Done! See the geography page. Enjoy! E Pluribus Anthony 02:56, 18 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Total Area[edit]

My previous edit seemed clear to me since the phrase is clealy talking about total area. Been doing some research, finding that the area of the U.S. suddenly increased beyond that of China? Previously for the longest time this was not true. Anybody agree or disagree with me, or have I been missing out on something for the past 40 years? Svelyka 07:23, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry: I've reverted this (again). Your recent change made the relevant point unclear ... the current version clearly indicates order of the top four countries by total area, whereas your edit did not. And the sourced facts speak for themselves – see Talk:Canada#Canada's area and also Provinces and territories of Canada (tables): Canada has significant inland water area and the order differs for 2-4 between total and land area. Please cite sources before changing. Thanks. E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 07:37, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Southern Okanagan - Desert or Steppe?[edit]

This has been a source of dispute, so I shall try and resolve it. The KCC has that a desert's precipitation is less than half the potential evapotranspiration; a steppe's precipitation is less than potential evapotranspiration but more than half of it.

climate data source. Relevant figures:

  • Mean annual temp: 8.6C
  • Mean total annual precipitation: 244.3mm (10mm snow = 1mm rain)
  • Mean total precipitation April-September: 152mm, 62% of the mean total annual

The potential evapotranspiration is calculated as follows:

  1. Multiply the average annual temperature in °C by 20 ==> 8.6*20 = 171.5
  2. Add:
    • 280 if 70% or more of the total precipitation is in the high-sun half of the year (April through September in the Northern Hemisphere)
    • 140 if 30%-70%
    • 0 if less than 30%
    • ==> 171.5 + 140 = 311.5
  3. This is potential evapotranspiration in millimetres.

The mean total annual preciptiation is therefore about 78% of the potential evapotranspiration, so the Okanagan is steppe, not desert. I know the Okanagan gets slightly less than 250mm of preciptiation (used for some definitions of desert), but the annual rainfall / potential evapotranspiration ratio shows it's clearly steppe. (Even if you ignore the snow, the figure comes out as 75%).

Tompw (talk) 12:46, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lowest point[edit]

The George Massey Tunnel in BC is below sea level & is a likely candidate for the lowest point --JimWae 04:32, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]


  • The lowest point is a point ON the earth's surface, but not a tunnel.

Anyway, if the lowest point is 0 m as referred in the article, why is it ONLY the Atlantic ocean's costline (as referred there)? 0 m is a common sea-level of all the oceans! féd.de rus.79.126.38.13 (talk) 20:43, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Missing: section on climate[edit]

This article needs a section entitled "Climate".

The Transhumanist 00:17, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I will add a section entitled climate. --74.216.28.205 (talk) 21:36, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for adding. More entries are necessary to make the table representative of the entire country though. We're missing the capitals of three Atlantic provinces and all three territorial capitals. I'm going to remove Osoyoos. It is not a notable city compared to the others. Hwy43 (talk) 03:39, 13 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I added the three territorial capitals as well as the Atlantic capitals. --74.216.28.205 (talk) 21:00, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well done – thanks! Hwy43 (talk) 22:05, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This article needs a description about the climate conditions, in addition to the table.Ssbbplayer (talk) 18:11, 9 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A little while ago I added some info to the climate section, but am not sure if it is good enough yet.74.216.35.35 (talk) 14:02, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

the human/enviroment interaction?[edit]

the way canadians interact is by......and what they do for economy?,and their life livings? Does anyone know Rebecca Addy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.25.244.11 (talk) 23:18, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply] 



                    please fill in what you think.........
                    thank you  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.237.15.116 (talk) 17:21, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Coast line[edit]

The Atlas of Canada says "The total length of Canada's coastline is 243 042 kilometres", in this article it is "202,080 km". Which one is correct? --Hans-Jürgen Hübner (talk) 11:21, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose you're right, although the 202,080 km is mentioned as well on the same website (The Atlas of Canada). But if you click on "Read more facts on Canada's Coastline" you'll find the other figure. I would go with the 243 042 km though. They do say that a distincton has to be made between coastline and shoreline - from which the latter is usually longer - but I don't know wether this is relevant to the differences in length. --Keffertje08 (talk) 12:10, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That missing 43,000km could be the reckoning of the total indentations and island shorelines of the British Columbia Coast; in fact that's about the right figure for that discrepancy; Nova Scotia and Newfoundland and Labrador coastlines aren't as elaborate but maybe they're part of that figure too.Skookum1 (talk) 03:46, 29 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Confusing item re Fraser Plateau[edit]

In expanding the Western Cordillera section I noticed the Fraser Plateau had been piped to Fraser Plateau and Basin complex (WWF ecoregion) via the Fraser Plateau and Basin complex redirect. This is incorrect so just made Fraser Plateau the link, as it's a much broader term and doesn't confuse landform with ecoregion......the Fraser Basin in geography is not the basin of the Fraser River, it's the low-lying areas below the main Nechako Plain converging on Prince George; in the same way the Fraser Canyon and Fraser Valley are two very different places, yet people from e.g. publications/media from outside the province (or just confined to Vancouver and ignorant of the Interior, as many media people tend to be) will still speak of Boston Bar or Williams Lake as "towns in the Fraser Valley". Fraser Basin kind of needs a landform article, though there are others still redlinked also in List of landforms of British Columbia. As with the Boreal Cordillera ecozone/ecoregion of Environment Canada, which some will use as if a landform, there's a distinction in nomenclature systems and also the ecoregion/ecozone systems (EC and WWF) play loosey-goosey with terms and invent some that have been mistakenly used, in Wikipedia and elsewhere, as if they were names for landforms. The Fraser Basin is another one of those.Skookum1 (talk) 03:46, 29 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Largest Lake[edit]

Why is Lake Superior the largest lake in the US but Great Bear Lake is the largest lake in Canada? Either Lake Superior should be largest in both countries or neither. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.204.5.77 (talk) 03:32, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Great Bear Lake is the largest lake wholly within Canada, while Lake Michigan is the largest lake wholly within the US. Lake Superior is larger than both of these lakes, but it straddles the boundary between the two countries. See List of lakes by area. Hwy43 (talk) 03:51, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

North Pole "disputed"[edit]

that wasn't my addition, but I know what's meant; Canada claims a sectoral share of the Arctic Ocean, there is no such treaty and Canada's claim to part of the North Pole (actually to THE Pole itself) is disputed by nearly every other, if not all (?) countries of the Arctic Council. There'll be some press or conference reports on this somewhere for sure; it's a major diplomatic issue, like a lot of Canada's other pretensions in the North like Hans Island and the marine boundary dispute in the Beaufort Sea. Add in Russian and American and Danish etc pretensions, it's a mess diplomatically but now becoming critical; unless there's a treaty stating that the northern limit of Canadian waters is at the North Pole, it's original research and not a small bit POV to claim it's Canada's northernmost point; in reality that's the northern tip of Ellesmere Island at Alert.Skookum1 (talk) 08:44, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Re this, what @Hwy43: rightly took out as also uncited, after reverting my point about the claim not being in international law or recognized by other Arctic states, what I'd added is citable, it'll take a while to re-find the things I've seen on it; what was there needed citation, but all that can be cited there is that Canada has claimed that, not that it is actually the case as far as the rest of the world sees it.Skookum1 (talk) 17:53, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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