Talk:Satires (Juvenal)

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Linking to Junius from his name is not appropriate, as there is no correlation between the two at all. Chris Weimer 16:35, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Quite correct, I agree and have removed this link.--Nefasdicere 18:21, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also, Horace, who died in 8 BC, is no contemporary.Rothorpe 23:58, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also taken care of in the new version.--Nefasdicere 18:21, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Consideration requested for external link: http://members.garbersoft.net/spartacus/Juvenal's%20Satires.html Juvenal's "Satires" in English.

I do not see a problem with such a link, although the (apparently personal) page linked may not be as stable as a site under the control of an academic or other entity. If there is any more support for this, I will add it.--Nefasdicere 18:21, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sauromatas[edit]

This article has this word translated as "Russians". Isn't it "Sarmatian"? Wouldn't that be a more correct translation? Russian would be anachronism - Russians (as they define themselves) and their country didn't exist when Juvenal was alive. Sarmatians aren't the same people, AFAIK. Peter1968 09:09, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, I just popped in on this page to see if anybody else felt annoyed by it. Let's DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!! ;-) Trigaranus 22:29, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Plagiarism[edit]

This article has some possible plagiarism in the first sentence of the significance section, and...actually a lot of this. It's bugging the hell out of me...and I can't think of what book it's from, but, also, this isn't very encyclopedic at all, and it's not NPOV at all (debate exists about the merits of relativism when studying Juvenal, etc.) Ooh, I think it's mostly from Susanna Braund's books on the satires, especially since the structural breakdowns are wholly lifted from there (other commentary doesn't follow the pattern given for satire 8). If I weren't supposed to be writing a paper on this right now, I'd fix it. 64.9.54.53 (talk) 01:06, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Titles[edit]

The article gives witty titles to the individual satires "There's no room in Rome for a Roman", "Patronizing patronage", etc. These aren't ancient - both of the titles just quoted are English puns. Where do they come from and why is this article perpetuating them? Furius (talk) 22:56, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Quotes from each Books, not really necessary[edit]

I don't really see why this is necessary and it kind makes the article a little clunky, I think it might be better to just summarize the books Drgerke (talk) 19:22, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You're right. I still think that the witty titles for the individual satires should go - they're WP:OR. The various references to Early Modern reception (Rousseau etc) should be in a reception/legacy section, not incorporated in the synopsis Furius (talk) 22:40, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]