Talk:Televangelism

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Split list to separate page[edit]

Why not make List of United States televangelists a separate article? -- Zoe 01:25, 13 April 2003‎

done dml 01:59, 13 April 2003‎

Deletion of content[edit]

I was the one who originally wrote this page, and someone deleted almost all of my text to place a Catholic slant on the subject. I have now rewritten the piece WITHOUT DELETING the Catholic references. I would ask the same consideration from future editors. I think that would be merely civil. If you had felt so strongly about the subject that you would delete 90% of my text, you should have written it in the first place. -- Rob Field 13:13, 21 September 2003‎

Word Origin[edit]

Where did the idea that someone who used radio as a medium was a "televangelist" come from? If they weren't on television they weren't a televangelist, at least in my dictionary (Merriam-Webseter's Collegiate 11th edition). So I'll be changing the reference to Coughlin. -- Someone else 06:57, 16 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Time magazine has an online version of their creation of the word here in case someone wants to make an addendum to the references section — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.223.226.6 (talkcontribs) 15:13, 19 September 2006‎

Incorrect origin for the term "Televangelism"

The claim that the word "Televangelism" was coined by Time magazine in an issue from 1998 seems to be completely incorrect. It was in fact coined by Jeffrey Hadden and Charles Swann in 1981 with their book "Prime time preachers: The rising power of televangelism" (which is already mentioned in one of the referenced sources, footnote nr. 13). The book is available online in its entirety here: http://web.archive.org/web/20080509191119/http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/toc/modeng/public/HadPrim.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justathought (talkcontribs) 18:46, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Still incorrect origin for the term "Televangelism"

Hadden and Swann's 1981 book can't be the origin of "televangelism" as alleged above. The website http://www.dictionaryofchristianese.com/televangelism/ shows quotations from magazines and books showing that the word "televangelism" goes back to 1958. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.124.168.216 (talk) 00:14, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I see! Well let's change it! --Justathought (talk) 09:18, 25 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Done. We could do with a better source, though; although that website looks credible, it may not meet the criteria of WP:Identifying reliable sources. – Fayenatic London 19:46, 25 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Crouch & Trinity Broadcasting[edit]

If the article is correct that televangelism is entirely a U.S. phenomenon, how does Paul Crouch operate an almost-worldwide ministry through his Trinity Broadcasting Network? Rlquall 02:12, 16 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've been told about a televangelist in New Zealand as well as some form of Catholic TV programming in Switzerland. --Tydaj 19:22, 4 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The one in NZ is probably Brian Tamaki. Link = http://www.destinychurch.org.nz/about.asp

Worldwide televangelism[edit]

"Most countries do not permit this kind of open-access evangelism" - what does 'most countries' mean? And does the sentence mean that televangelism is somehow illegal in most countries? The first half of the sentence is ambiguous, the second is probably just plain wrong.

Never mind, someone already changed it while I was writing, though I'd still like to know in which countries televangelism is illegal.

194.216.55.225 09:16, 26 August 2005‎

Well, the BBC [British Broadcasting Corporation] is funded by the taxpayer, and part of the mandate is that they remain unbiased. So if they were to devote 5 hours of airtime to a twat with a dog collar saying "send me dollars now! And Christ will save you from burgers and guns and terrorism", I suspect there'd be a public outcry.
Besides, televangelism is viewed in Europe as crass, dull, and a very American thing that'd never catch on over here. People of faith here tend to go to churches instead of sitting on a sofa watching TV of a sermon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.142.197.245 (talkcontribs) 16:03, 19 December 2005‎

Deletion review for Melissa Scott (pastor)[edit]

Vote at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 March 22.. Badagnani 06:42, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Controversies[edit]

I have added some information on controversies as distinct to scandals. I felt that this was necessary to make a comprehensive article. It addresses generic concerns that have been raised about televangelists. All the points I have included are independently verifiable and have been made by authoritative sources - they are not original research. I have tried to present them in neutral language to the best of my ability. However, I accept that (a) references may be needed and (b) the overall tone could do with improving to include the response from televangelists to these criticisms. I will leave these tasks to others. However, please don't delete what I have written just because you disagree with it. Whatever your views on televangelists are, it is notable that they have caused considerable controversy and an encyclopedia article needs to reflect this. Sidefall 12:30, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Too many unsourced claims in this article.[edit]

There are way too many unsourced claims in this article. How is it possible to validate this information, or whether this article is reporting the phenomenon accurately? The article, for example, talks about America's big Christian population and deregulated media network are the principle causes of televangelism. Although such a claim is very plausible, it is still making a falsifiable claim that needs to be sourced. Let me try to dig out the unsourced claims tag. 65.24.105.132 (talk) 17:08, 25 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Moral Majority Rhetoric[edit]

@Erothste: This section seems quite specific and I'm not convinced of its importance to televangelism as a whole. It has its own article at Moral Majority and surely this essay would be better over there? This falls under WP:OFFTOPIC. ArcMachaon (talk) 23:30, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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