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  • KOLLECTION MOBART #1, BERLIN (new flashmb)

Ort: Berlin, Auguststr. 69 Datum: Samstag, 9. Dezember 2006 Zeitpunkt: 15:30 Dauer: 10 Minuten

  • 02:16, 1 October 2006 contribs)| m (JS: Replacing "milk" with "soup". (Male humans can't make milk + sounds weird))
  • 06:07, 13 September 2006 contribs)| (→Using talk pages - rewrote post a comment paragraph and deleted obscure URL technique)
  • 09:19, 24 August 2006 contribs)| m (Reverted edits by 172.190.3.19 to last version by Korg)
  • 17:14, 10 July 2006 User:212.159.74.44 (→Formatting - add colons so example follows explanation)
  • 11:28, 27 June 2006 User:217.126.94.132 (→Using talk pages - changed Sandbox to Meta:Sandbox)
  • 08:06, 12 May 2006 contribs)| m (Reverted edits by 203.194.35.50 to last version by Gareth Aus)
  • 10:43, 1 April 2006 contribs)| (added formatting from Wikipedia)
  • 17:40, 24 January 2006 contribs)| (rv vandalism by anonymous)
  • 21:07, 10 January 2006 contribs)| m (→See also: - removed -)
  • 20:58, 10 January 2006 contribs)| m (spelling, other minor fixups)
  • 01:34, 10 January 2006 contribs)| (rewrote top of article)
  • 00:12, 29 October 2005 contribs)| m (Reverted edits by 86.120.197.66 to last version by Patrick)
  • 10:29, 16 July 2005 contribs)| (one can follow the link labeled with the content of MediaWiki:Talk (instead of '''talk''' it could also e.g. be '''discussion''').)
  • 22:59, 21 January 2005 contribs)| (On a talk page, "this page" usually refers to the page discussed on this talk page. If the talk page itself is referred to, write "this talk page".)
  • 15:31, 3 November 2004 contribs)| m (Reverted edits by 61.49.188.142 to last version by Patrick)
  • 14:00, 28 August 2004 contribs)| (This also works on other than talk pages, there is only no link for that, one has to use the url, e.g. http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Sandbox&action=edit&section=new)
  • 11:34, 20 July 2004 contribs)| (User talk pages are used to leave messages for a particular user. "You have new messages" is automatically displayed on all pages that the user views, until he or she views his/her user page.)
  • 10:35, 20 July 2004 contribs)| (from w:Wikipedia:Namespace)
Is this section required? --ADTC 07:20, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Creating Toc

How is a table of contents created? I tried viewing the edit of talk pages that have a ToC, but there doesn't seem to be any code inserted that creates this? --Crossmr 04:25, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

The Table of Contents is auto-created when an article reaches a certain length. To force a table of contents, put "__TOC__" where you want it on the page. To force no ToC, put "__NOTOC__" anywhere on the page. —BorgHunter ubx (talk) 03:05, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Etiquette ?

I have a disclaimer on my user talk page of what I will keep in regards to comments; and its outline what I will keep and get rid of. Even within that disclaimer I provide a link of where I stand on certain issues so I do not have to deal with the petty arguements and accusations. Is there a specific rule against this. Do note every comment I receive, I do give a reply but I do not find it necessary to keep all comments for every user. I will like to hear your comments and idea. Sincerely Paul.Paquette 22:15, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

If the comments are blatantly nonsensical in nature, you are free to delete them. --Siva1979Talk to me 04:32, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Talk page created before article is created

I often find an article I wish existed, doesn't. I typically use wikipedia for work, so I try to minimize my time on it. I don't have time to go through the cumbersome article request process, or to create an article that doesn't deserve deletion. What I've been doing is creating the talk pages, and then going back and creating the article if and when I find the time. Is that kosher? Mathiastck 21:53, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, there is nothing wrong doing this as long as the article in question would be created in the near future. --Siva1979Talk to me 19:25, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
See right now I was hoping to look up att mMode, but found nothing. mMode needs an article. If one already exists it needs a redirect from mMode. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mathiastck (talk • contribs) 22:57, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
I'd say, just be WP:BOLD. If you have good intentions, people won't fret. --Swift 00:07, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Cool, it has worked out pretty well for me. We setup a good template and everything: Category:Wikipedia_articles_requested_through_talk_page_creation. When I find time I return to these pages to create the articles. Mathiastck 16:33, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Format problem

The top of each wiki page shows several tabs - help, discussion, etc. However, if you edit the discussion you are editing talk. That is talk and discussion are used to refer to the same thing !! very confusingCinnamon colbert 03:08, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Is it really? Essentially, the "Talk" page is where the discussion on the page contents takes place, and is accessed by the "discussion" link. It is not intuitive enough so that you don't have to learn this, but still seems enough so that it hasn't proven to be much of a problem so far.
I may, however, be misunderstanding your comment as I have a problem seeing how this relates to the title of this section. --Swift 05:28, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

air bus a380

i was lookin up the airbus a380 page and saw that it had a nickname posted, and i opted to add in the nickname "Fat Bastard" as it was used by the employees at the airbus factory in france. i was sent a message saying it was nonsence. maybe so but a nickname is a nickname. up to you guys whether you except it or not cuz i have a family member who is in the airbus factory at this minute.

Have a look at Wikipedia:Verifiability. Thanks, Addhoc 20:28, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Talk Page : New Topic Location?

Should new sections/topics on a talk page be added to the top or the bottom of a talk page? Is there a guideline/rule? I've seen talk pages where stuff gets added on the top, the bottom, the middle... anyone know? Gront 04:06, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind, found the answer: should be at the bottom. Talk Page Guidelines Gront 04:09, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Rare surnames and duplication

Okwudi !?... whats the chances

Link to a foreign article

Hello all!

I have started writing a french version of one of my favourite articles, over on Wikipedia France. How do I add the link for it to the "in other languages" tab on the English site, and vice versa?

also, does anyone else think it would be good to consolidate membership across sites, ie, when you contribute to say, the German site, you can access your edits from the UK version of "my contributions"?

Good morning. :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sugarlily (talk • contribs)

Interwiki links are pretty simple. For example, the bridge article has [[fr:pont (ouvrage d'art)]] at the bottom of the article content. This does not appear in the article itself, but rather in the sidebar. If you want to link directly to the article on the other wiki like this, you would put a colon first: [[:fr:pont (ouvrage d'art)]].
Consolidation wouldn't work at this point, because there are many users with the same name on different wikis. However, I have signed up for the same name on commons and fr. It may interest you to see how I've structured my user [1][2][3] and talk [4][5][6] pages. Note that I've added interwiki links to my user pages, and use {{Template:User Wikicommons}} among my userboxes on en.
Also, please remember to sign your posts using four tildes (~~~~). --INTRIGUEBLUE (talk|contribs) 04:44, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Confusion over "How to keep a two-way conversation readable"

I'm confused over this section:

  • Or: Put a notice on your user talk page that you will reply there unless they ask otherwise. Do this for conversations that other people start.
  • Watchlist the other person's user talk page and tell them they can reply there. Do this for conversations you start.

Does "Put a notice on your user talk page that you will reply there" refer to my user page or the other person's talk page who started the conversation? I only ask because I want to keep discussions I make constant and not broken up, but different people use different systems and it confuses me, so I would prefer to use the guidance here, but it confuses me. --tgheretford (talk) 23:01, 5 November 2006 (UTC) This section is bit confusing--Darrendeng 08:53, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Cleaner formatting

Instead of having a Talk page like this:

How's the soup? --[[Bob]]
:It's great!! --[[Lisa]]
::Not too bad.. --[[George]]
:::I made it myself! --[[Bob]]
I think the soup-discussion should be moved to [[Talk:Soup]].. --[[Lisa]]
:I tend to disagree. --[[George]]

How's the soup? --Bob

It's great!! --Lisa
Not too bad.. --George
I made it myself! --Bob

I think the soup-discussion should be moved to Talk:Soup.. --Lisa

I tend to disagree. --George

won't it be cleaner to have it like this?:

== Soup ==
How's the soup? --[[Bob]]
:It's great!! --[[Lisa]]
::Not too bad.. --[[George]]
I made it myself! --[[Bob]]
== Suggestion ==
I think the soup-discussion should be moved to [[Talk:Soup]].. --[[Lisa]]
:I tend to disagree. --[[George]]

Soup                                                                          [edit]
How's the soup? --Bob

It's great!! --Lisa
Not too bad.. --George

I made it myself! --Bob
Suggestion                                                                 [edit]
I think the soup-discussion should be moved to Talk:Soup.. --Lisa

I tend to disagree. --George

Note: Headings are imitated for the above example. Though not exactly the same, they are similar to the example above in actual practice. The 'edit' links in the example above have no effect.

Details:

Current method:

First comment is not indented (no colon ':')
Second comment is indented once
Third comment is indented twice
And so on.

Disadvantage: The comments build up like a thread, getting indented more and more unnecessarily. The fifth or the sixth comment itself would be hanging at the right side of a page like a vertical newspaper column. There is no dialogue structure. (Remember Talk pages are for conversations between Wikipedia contributers, and conversation means dialogue!)

Suggested method:

First person to comment never indents any of his comments under the subheading.
Second person to comment always indents all his comments one step (under that particular subheading only).
Third person to comment always indents all his comments two steps.

Advantage: The comments are arranged neatly like a dialogue. The reader gets a sense of dialogue or conversation. It's easier to read a dialogue than to read a thread since the reader can figure out who is talking what, by just looking at the indents. Starting a new dialog should be under a subheading as I suggested above. Also this method is cleaner since unless there are about six or more people actually participitating in the conversation, the comments will span accross the page and not get concentrated towards the right. --ADTC 14:17, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure that this is the appropriate place for a policy proposal, but you've got my vote. I've done talk pages like that for a long time, and found it to be significantly easier to follow. However, it might get chaotic for a conversation with more than two or three participants.
Perhaps you might want to add that if a person wishes to post a response directly to a comment which is not at the bottom of the talk, they can do so by indenting twice from the level of the comment. It would seem to be the most reasonable (and least confusing) approach there. --INTRIGUEBLUE (talk|contribs) 18:16, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I have proposed this in this page: Talk page formatting--ADTC 21:18, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

How Can I Become A School Band Director

I need to know what classes are required to become a band director because frankly i suck at science, math,and all that other crap but i want to be a band director and one of my math teachers is all like you need to be in tutering instead of down in the band room after school practicing because band is never going to get you anywhere and i am not wanting to become a band director to prove her wrong that will just be one of the added bonuses if you catch my drift but i really want to be a band director for a Jr.High perferably Webb City but i need help finding a way to become a band director without having to take those torturing other classes but just so you know i can count..... CAN YOU HELP ME???????????67.99.195.18 06:34, 24 November 2006 (UTC)Emily Newby

This is not the place to talk about that. Your topic "How Can I Become A School Band Director" will be deleted unless you appeal that it should remain. If you appeal, please give valid reasons. --ADTC 07:16, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

How can I upload my company's profile on wikipedia

can anyone tell me how to upload a profile to wikipedia

thank you

This Talk page and it's associated Help page are becoming frequent targets of vandalism. Please lock the pages so that only registered users can edit. Actually, the whole of Wikipedia should be locked so that only registered users can edit.--ADTC 03:22, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I need more time

70.91.252.30 19:04, 4 January 2007 (UTC)Wikiepedia, I'm at work and trying to get this pager working throughout the course of the day, will you just gimme some time to make the entry this band deserves?70.91.252.30 19:04, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Salish indain questions for school

ITS FOR SCHOOL!Qwertyu948 16:46, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

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