Talk:Malvina Hoffman

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Hi, does anybody know a full photographic documentation of Hoffman's 104 Hall of Man sculptures ? I'm very much interested in this topic. Unfortunately, Henry Field's account in the Anthropological Leaflet is incomplete. Thank you in advance.

I have been looking for such a list or publication for a long time and am pretty sure one does not exist. I even went to the Museum and they don't seem to know [or are not sharing] what they have. At any given time most of their pieces are in storage since the collection was broken up during the 1960s after being deemed racist - or some such thing. IS the booklet that you refer to the one from 1936 or so? From when it first opened? Additional details can be gleaned from "Heads and Tails" - Hoffamn's account of creating the works. What info do you have about this collection? I recently discovered a bust of a male Sioux in the Phoenix AZ Art Musuen that was probably part of the original collection, though it could also have been a second casting {assuming that the Field Museum got #1] Let's talk. Carptrash 02:42, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Images[edit]

Alright, I know this is an article on an artist and they tend to have quite a few pictures. However, at the moment, the article looks cluttered to me. I would to remove at least one of the pictures from this article, or increase the ammount of text. Any ideas? Kel-nage 13:51, 24 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea. I suggest that you add more text. Carptrash 20:30, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Miscellaneous[edit]

Significant to add details of her life in NYC between times she lived in Paris? In 1914 she first set up studio at the back of the curious Sniffen Court which extends south off of E 36th street between 3rd Ave and Lex. (Sniffen Court used as location for the cover shot of The Doors "Strange Days"). She sculpted the horseman reliefs at the back. Front entrance to her studio at 157(?) 35th street where there's a small historical plaque. Returned to Paris 1926(?) where she lived with violinist husband Samuel Grimson until divorce in 1936, then returned to Sniffen Court. Assume this is the studio she allegedly died in, but don't know for sure. Cappycollins 21:21, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There should be clearer and more comprehensive coverage of her time(s) spent in Paris, where she apparently had another studio for some period(s). There was no mention of her presence in Paris during the 1930s, until I added a passing mention to the article. Reify-tech (talk) 16:49, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's not quite clear to me[edit]

what this sentences (clause?) means.

"Portrait busts of historical figures of the day."

Any ideas? Carptrash (talk) 02:09, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I placed that phrase in Portrait busts of historical figures of the day and depictions of people in their everyday lives were frequent works executed by Hoffman. and by it, intended to describe a separate category of work from depiction of people who would not be seen as important historical figures. Malvina sculpted many individuals in portrait busts who were not among the series commissioned by Field, many were very well known, others not.

I have seen some of her sculptures, later described only as part of the anthropological project by group identity, but know personal names of the subjects, some of whom were important in the current affairs of the day. Today, they may not be well known. Others have remained noteworthy. Sometimes she sculpted people who would not be identified as "historical figures of the day" -- although I would refrain from calling them "ordinary" so I chose to contrast the "historical" with "people in their everyday lives".

If that remains unclear to you, please let me know and I will rephrase it -- if you misunderstand it, so might many others and I will change my entry. Sorry, I do not read talk page entries unless an edit summary gives me a clue to look... so I did not see your comment earlier. I came to the talk page looking for something on a different topic.

Regarding a catalogue of the Mankind project, there is a huge collection of the negatives of the original photographic negatives at the museum, however, it may not be available to the public. The booklet I refer to in the article was in a collection held by someone in my family. I would consider that publication what you are seeking, wish I could provide an accurate identification. It was on the project alone, no other sculptures were discussed. A large map accompanied the book. The map featured some of the sculptures and identified the geographical locations of the cultures. Although I saw it often and studied it quite thoroughly, I no longer have access to it, so I cannot provide publication details. I recall that it was complete, as I have never seen a sculpture from the collection that I had not seen in that publication. A family friend and neighbor had many of the small series in a personal art collection and I had seen each of them in that publication as well. ---- 83d40m (talk) 08:13, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I tkink I understand. I made an edit myself regarding the "historical" people part. check it out and see what you think. All the sources, I think, in the sources section were added by me and I have them all in my sculpture library.. The book that you are referring to with the map is "Heads and Tails" which probably should have it's own article. Unless it already does? Carptrash (talk) 13:57, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think "Heads and Tales" was an autobiographical book about the entire project -- including all of the personal aspects, but the book I meant was only about the exhibition and full details about the sculptures and subjects -- I do not recall many personal accounts. It was a large format and I associate a deep, burnt-orange as the background color of the publication and map. The title of the exhibition was the title of the publication as I recall. ---- 83d40m (talk) 23:38, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like a different book to me too. The race is on. Carptrash (talk) 23:59, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Poster photo[edit]

Could this be of any help? [1] PajaBG (talk) 22:16, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Those appear to be the posters mentioned in the article. Could they be moved from the language Wikipedia to Wikimedia Commons? The rules and procedure are explained in WP:COMMONS. There may be restrictions on the use of the image posted, but I can't read Cyrillic fluently, and can't determine if the move is permitted. Reify-tech (talk) 15:24, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the posters can also be seen in references 22 [2] and 23 [3]. I imported it, I think. It is here [4] PajaBG (talk) 14:42, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, PajaBG. I added it to the article. Reify-tech (talk) 16:47, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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