Talk:Plucker

Short critic

Short critic about this topic: no word on how to pluck the Wikipedia itself.

Especially no word on "how to make Wikipedia (succesfully) portable (on a PDA or similar)" is spent anywhere were I looked. Only failures. Might be my fault not having found it.

If anybody knows a thing, give the world a hint ;-) Thanks in advance!

-- Stephen D. Leedle (en.wikipedia.org@secondimpact.de)

http://projects.plkr.org/encycloplucker/

naive First Thought :

via:

http://static.wikipedia.org/wikipedia/en/q/u/i/Wikipedia%7EQuick_index_29f1.html

with Proxomitron as a web proxy server front end filter

scrape by HTTrack

the resulting downloaded tree massaged by various Grep-like apps

or:

http://www.moulinwiki.org/l/en/

moulin is Wikipedia on one CD without images (only french for now)

converted to plucker format using :

Sunrise 0.42j

Sunrise XP v2.03a

Sunrise XP forum

Offline Wikipedia / HG2G

The Dana link.

I don't know how to do redirects. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plucker has a dead link to alphasmart dana when in reality there is information about the dana on wikipedia, just within the alphsmart article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphasmart#Dana

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Copyright problem removed

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Further information after that templated text:

This article has been cut-and-paste into Wikipedia from official Plucker websites without any release of rights by the copyright holder, twice. Plucker project websites all had clear copyright notices with no ambiguity or copyleft permissions. The copyvios appear to have been done in good faith, but in violation of Wikipedia policy and the encyclopedia's legal obligations.

• First copyvio:
  • Original dated November 13, 2002 and archived same day: https://web.archive.org/web/20021113073010/http://www.plkr.org:80/index.plkr
  • Original article created with same text January 29, 2003: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Plucker&oldid=745668
• Second copyvio:
  • Original archived October 9, 2007: https://web.archive.org/web/20071009083933/https://www.plkr.org/
  • Matching article edits dated October 9-11, 2007: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Plucker&oldid=163397276 through https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Plucker&oldid=163839837
  • This set of edits also introduced File:PHP Manual in Plucker format.jpg, copied from that page, which was uploaded with the description Created by David A. Desrosiers, extracted from the projects.plkr.org site, Commons image, etc. Notably, "extracted from" is the sort of language a 3rd party might use, not likely to be how an author would describe donating their own work. It's unclear what "Commons image" was supposed to mean, but the source page has no release of copyright, and the uploader is not clearly the copyright holder. There is no grounds to believe the copyright holder did, or intended to, donate the image to Wikipedia under a compatible license. On the distant possibility that Hacker~enwiki (talk · contribs) is the copyright holder David A. Desrosiers, that description doesn't qualify as a release of rights for Wikipedia's purposes, and in any case would cover only the image.

Unfortunately, all revisions between the two copyvios and between the second copyvio and present are minor alterations of the copyvio text, and can't be used by Wikipedia as an alternative article. I have investigated all archived copies of the source Plucker project sites and have found no statements releasing the text under any license then or later; rather, all pages have had explicit assertions of copyright protection. There is no reason to believe that permission could be forthcoming since the project's pages are no longer online, the project itself appears to no longer be under active development, and the copyright holder is unlikely to proactively seek out Wikipedia to grant permission to use the small amount of text at issue in the immediate future.

This falls under the G12. Unambiguous copyright infringement criterion for deletion on-sight by any admin: ... pages that contain copyrighted material with no credible assertion of public domain, fair use, or a compatible free license, where there is no non-infringing content on the page worth saving. Further, there is no page history free of copyrighted material, which requires that the page is deleted entirely so that the violations in the edit history are also no longer published by Wikipedia. Admins have temporary access to deleted edit history should it be required or requested (see WP:DELACCESS); however, requests for material deleted on copyright violation grounds is typically denied, and (as noted below) all non-copyvio material such as cites should still be available and not need to be retrieved from the history by an admin.

On the plus side, the non-creative content (list of references, infobox, external links, etc.) are substantial and can be kept, and the infobox image is appropriately licensed. A brief stub article body has been created in place of the deleted article body while keeping these (as well as the {{more footnotes}} template that remains relevant), to begin building a new page free of copyrighted material. — Saxifrage ✎ 23:41, 13 April 2024 (UTC)