Talk:John Robinson (bishop of Woolwich)

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Died[edit]

I cannot remember if John died late 82 or early 83, I think the latter: his last sermon was Christmas 82 but he died soon afterwards. I'll check when I have time and come back.

John was also Dean of Clare in the fifties and moving from Bishop of Wollwich to Dean of Trinity must have been a demotion. I have added him to the "previous Deans" list at Trinity also BozMo

Dating of the New Testament[edit]

On the issue of Robinson's challenge to exegetes. Liberal theology is not a monolith, it is not startling for one theologian to critique the work of another, or evaluate it as being flat wrong for that matter. It is through such criticism that scholars are nourished and forced to better express, research, or consider their opinions. Such discussion is not looked upon as seditious, nor would the idea even occur to most theologians. One must remember that, in any academic setting, we see a vast array of people with a great deal of knowledge on their subject, but who also have vastly different opinions and scholastic approaches/axes to grind. Theologically, Robinson is one of my heroes, but his evaluation of the dating of the New Testament is just not supported by the dearth of archeological material. This does not make me a traitor to liberal theology or Robinson's memory. MerricMaker 15:47, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Apology - I did not intend to insert an inaccurate title here. The comment followed a discussion of his death, which it clearly had nothing to do with. -- SECisek 03:28, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Progressive Christianity[edit]

I changed the reference from "Progressive Christianity" to liberal Christian theology, because progressive Christianity historically is associated with the social justice movement of the early 20th century. --Blainster 17:53, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

5cott:06:20, 13 December 2007 (UTC)~ I think it would be inaccurate to label him as a pantheist. I certainly did not get that idea from reading 'Honest To God'. I'm not sure what the technical term for Robinson would be, I assume he follows Paul Tillich's conception of God as being itself. Tillch makes the distinction between his theology and pantheism. Pantheism states that God is everything, whereas being-itself is in everything. In conclusion, I don't know what to call it, but it's not pantheism anymore than fundamentalism is paganism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.67.172.238 (talk)

Weasel words?[edit]

'Robinson proposed abandoning the notion of a God "out there", existing somewhere out in the universe, just as we have abandoned already the idea of God "up there", the notion of the old man up in the sky.' Who is 'we', and when, where, and under what circumstances did 'we' believe this? As far as I know, 'mainsteam' 'Anglicanism', like the orthodox Catholic Faith, did not believe that God (the Trinity) exists 'somewhere out in the universe' in the first place.—Preceding unsigned comment added by User:PETF (talk • contribs)

Actually, this is based on the wording that Robinson used in 'Honest to God, rather than an attempt to make vague claims about his work. BCorr|Брайен 16:30, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Probable self-promotion removed[edit]

I have removed the following text: “although in recent years the liberal Baptist theologian and spiritual writer John Henson has claimed some affinity with the idea that the Fourth Gospel was the earliest.” The citation given is to a book self-published with AuthorHouse, and this John Henson does not seem to be notable in any way. CRCulver (talk) 15:44, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]