Talk:Hermann Oberth

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University in Munich[edit]

I am currently in the process of translating from the Romanian-language article, which is the most comprehensive. That article refers to Oberth as studying medicine at the "Universitatea din Munchen" (University of Munich). I am unaware of any such University. I'd guess it means the Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität, but I'm really hesitant to put a guess in an encyclopedia article, so I am just saying he studied in Munich. If any one actually knows what university he studied at, please feel free to correct the article. Jmabel 00:06, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)

German or Romanian?[edit]

Wouldn't it be more correct to say that Oberth was a Romanian Physicist?

No, because he was an ethnical german born in Austria-Hungary, in a region that is now Romania. Besides this, he spent much of his life in Germany and made most of his scientific discoveries there. So, he is a german physicist, but that doesn't mean he isn't highly respected on his birth place. Mihai -talk 08:21, 13 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If Gennadiy Borisov is listed as Crimean, why isn't Hermann Oberth listed as Transylvanian? As a Romanian myself, I agree that Romanian would be a bit far-fetched, but Austro-Hungarian-born German seems way more convoluted than it should be. TeslaBoy 07:03, 26 January 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TeslaBoy (talk • contribs)

Hei, that region was a romanian region from the year 1260.That land is and it will always be in Romania. TKS

Transylvania is part of Romania from 1918/1920, not from 1260. Also, it had major German and Hungarian population.Baxter9 (talk) 22:11, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry but it never had any other major population other than Romanian. Germans and Hungarians were always minorities. The treaty of trianon only returned Transylvania to Romania after 200 years of occupation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.127.140.221 (talk) 19:50, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Dear unsigned commenter, let's stop debating something that has no relevance to this article and any propagandastic statement should be ignored in the future. Transylvania had many major populations from the late antiquity in which Hungarians dominated for a while, approx. until the 16th-17th century. Transylvania were joined - not returned - to Romania in 1920, and not after a "200 years occupation", just check the status quo and the existing states in 1720.(KIENGIR (talk) 18:14, 22 December 2013 (UTC))[reply]
German. My family is from Russia. We live in the USA now. We are 100% German.184.155.130.147 (talk) 05:36, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
He was born in Sibiu to Julius Oberth and Valeria Krasser, both German Saxons. He married Mathilde Hummel a saxon of Sighisoara. He had 4 kids, Julius, Erna, Ilse, Adolf. He started his studies in Muenchen with medicine as "official" topic. After the war episode he studied "medicine" in Budapest and officially got into physics while studying in Cluj then continued his studies in Muenchen, Gottingen and Heidelberg. He returned to teach as a physics teacher in Medias, another saxon city of Romania. He got a gig in Berlin and lucky for us that carried on his career on genius heights. He is nothing but German and it's the Germans that gave him the chance. No need for pointless nationality debating when you have his life history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drandrul (talk • contribs) 21:54, 18 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Azimuth?[edit]

The A4 (aka V-2) is credited with an "azimuth of 50 miles" in the article. I suspect a well-meaning but misinformed person is referring to the system's apogee (its maximum altitude). Apogee is a poor measure of a rocket's performance, however, without discussing the range and payload of the system. Describing a missile by its length and apogee is almost as bad as describing a racehorse by saying "he's brown with dark eyes, and he can run a mile." I suggest that the description of the A4 be replaced with information from the V-2 rocket article: "The V-2 had an operational range of about 300 km (200 statute miles) carrying a 1000 kg (2,200 lb) warhead."

Goddard's Criticism of Oberth[edit]

I don't know if folks want to include this, but Robert Goddard was extremely critical of Oberth. He believed that Oberth plagiarized the work Goddard published in 1920, and was very bitter about him all through his life. DonPMitchell 23:08, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, I don't believe Goddard was justified in this, although Oberth was aware of Goddard's 1919 book and some of this ideas (staged rockets, and some of the math) may have been borrowed from or inspired by Goddard. DonPMitchell (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 07:02, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And let's not forget the influence of (Peruvian) Pedro Paulet on Goddard! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 179.7.87.89 (talk) 00:28, 17 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Bad revert[edit]

Sorry, but the name of any vessel, even a fictional starship, should be italicized, as "USS Enterprise", not "USS Enterprise". 2600:1004:B16A:1E3C:9871:80C:B80D:14FB (talk) 01:05, 5 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings

Yes, at the time of his birth, Sibiu was part of the Austro-Hungarian empire and Oberth himself was an ethnic German. However, we should remember that it was at Cluj in 1923,he got his license in physics. Therefore in Romania (since 1918), under Romanian administration and under the guidance of Prof Augustin Maior, a Romanian, that he was received with open arms, appreciated and acclaimed. After seeing his concepts rejected by his own co-nationals. Also the Romanians were still there in time of need, helping him to survive decently the economic crisis, with his teaching job at the Roth High-School in Medias, for 14 years .still a Romanian era and another Romanian town. Romania doesn't claim Hermann Oberth ethnically, but I honestly think that it should be appreciated for a better vision, better treatment and the earliest recognition and encouragement of a Physics genius.

I was reading above about Goddard being bitter about Hermann Oberth, and calling him a plagiarizer, well, he really shouldn't have. He wasn't even in the same class, with his toy rockets that flew 1,5 miles. Small wonder that none of his patents produced anything remotely resembling the V1 or V2. Created by Von Braun, another genius, the real father of the American Space Program, the man who built the Saturns and put men on the Moon, who openly admitted that anything of importance in his formative years, he learned from Oberth. So, dear German and American brothers and sisters, when in need of insight and vision, don't hesitate to ask the Romanians :)PinteaG (talk) 23:37, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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WWII Military Affiliation[edit]

During the war he supported building V2s for the Germans and received the Kriegsverdienstkreuz I Klasse mit Schwertern (War Merit Cross 1st Class, with Swords) in 1943 but was he actually a member of the German military with a rank? If so what was the rank and should it be added to the info box? Also should me mention his service to Nazi Germany in his intro/infobox as we do with his contemporary Wernher von Braun? BogLogs (talk) 12:50, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Confusing word fragment[edit]

Under the heading "Space mirror" the second sentence of the fourth paragraph states "The fact that one could influence the trajectories of he barometric high and low pressure areas with these spatial mirrors seemed most important to Oberth" (emphasis added). I would guess that "...he is a fragment of "the", but I cannot be certain. Can anyone fix this? Bricology (talk) 21:06, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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