Talk:Politeness

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Unwikified face[edit]

Since Goffman's concept of face differs somewhat from the Chinese social concept discussed at face (social custom), I've unwikified it. It would be nice if someone could write an article about Goffman's concept (I'm afraid I know too little about it myself). Cohen the Bavarian 21:07, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I've started an article about Goffman's concept. It's at Face (self image). It needs developing, but it's a start. The JPS 00:24, 20 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion request et al[edit]

I've just added a section on linguistics mentioning lexicon and morphology as ways to show politeness. The obvious example was Japanese (I tried not to say too much since it can be consulted elsewhere), but there's much to be said still, more examples to be added (different cultures, different languages, maybe strange forms of politeness, a list of polite gestures in our civilization, maybe some references to (n)etiquette, etc.). Besides, there are a lot of red links, and I suspect they should be unwikified and explained right in this article. --Pablo D. Flores 01:45, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This article could become very fragmented and confused. We should be careful to seperate the everyday understanding of the the concept, and the sociolinguistic aspect (which is where we would discuss the current red links). Two articles might be needed; I don't know yet. We're looking at a structure nightmare for this one! The JPS 23:47, 19 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I would love to see some academic references in the techniques section.

I have added a section called "Criticism of the Theory" where I have included reference to Matsumoto and Ide´s work on wakimae. I also moved the section about Japanese into this new section, where I believe it fits better. --Grape1 17:11, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Figures of speech[edit]

I've removed an external link to a certain website. It's called "Figures of speech" and, besides having nothing to do with this article, it's a weblog and the current front page has a lot of U.S. political/partisan material. I've also removed this from Lexical category, where it was even more inappropriate. --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 15:18, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

A curious historic insight[edit]

An AFD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Polite architecture has brought up a scholarly work on the subject (nearly FUTON on googlebooks):

Klein, Lawrence (1994). "Politeness" as linguistic ideology in late seventeenth and eighteenth-century England. ISBN 311013697X, ISBN 9783110136975. {{cite book}}: |journal= ignored (help); External link in |journal= (help) pp. 31-50. NVO (talk) 19:03, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In Our Time[edit]

The BBC programme In Our Time presented by Melvyn Bragg has an episode which may be about this subject (if not moving this note to the appropriate talk page earns cookies). You can add it to "External links" by pasting * {{In Our Time|Politeness|p004y29m}}. Rich Farmbrough, 03:19, 16 September 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Criticism of theory section - irrelevant?[edit]

This article is about politeness in general, why is there a full section criticizing this one theory about politeness? At most, it would seem fitting for it to be included in the "types" section, which is where it talks about their politeness theory. I vote to remove the section and incorporate it, in a shorter version, into the "types" section. Megaman en m (talk) 11:11, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Western centric[edit]

Is the term only used in Western societies? Do the Japanese, for example, consider their behaviour (deference etc.) to be “polite” or part of some other tradition of etiquette? Btljs (talk) 06:27, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]