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The result of the debate was Keep Zzyzx11 (Talk) 06:23, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Bryan R. Holloway[edit]

Unnotable North Carolina state representative. Claim to fame is having been voted into office. Google search reveals 61 results. [1]. Note that other state houses' representatives have very few articles: check Michigan State House of Representatives for an example. Not noteworthy. Barfooz (talk) 03:29, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

  • Keep state representatives, past and present. Public figures, even those of only regional interest, are encyclopedic. Needs some major cleanup, though. I wouldn't oppose a merger into a larger article on the NC State House or state politics. AиDя01DTALKEMAIL 03:51, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)
    • I disagree with a merger, but I can accept your criterion with some qualifications. You say public figures, but I don't think that local government figures are encyclopedia-worthy unless they have other claims to fame, or they preside over major cities (e.g., Tokyo, New York, London). Anything at the sub-unit-of-nation level (e.g., state, province) or above is reasonably noteworthy. --Barfooz (talk) 04:37, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep state reps. Also wouldn't oppose merge. --Unfocused 04:49, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep all state reps; strongly oppose merge. The deficiency of other areas of WP is hardly a reason to avoid keeping this article. I'll give it a once-over for wikification and such. Meelar (talk) 05:41, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep Notable state representative. Klonimus 21:13, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • I'm working on a scheme for organizing information about USA state reps and senators, doing it by district rather than by politician, which will allow for historical info and discourage vanity. I believe a similar thing was done recently for legislative divisions in Canada. Naturally, I'm starting with my home state and district. Rough first draft here. Let me know what you think. (I just need to find a good resource for maps that go down to the township level...) AиDя01DTALKEMAIL 05:57, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)
  • No vote but note that all members of the 2003-2004 North Carolina General Assembly (House and Senate) have stub articles about them; unfortunately, the user who contributed them has not yet updated them to reflect whether these people are still in office in 2005, which is an inherent problem with this type of article. If all members of all state legislatures (and that would imply members of all comparable sub-national legislative bodies in other countries), past and present, are considered encyclopedic, we are talking about adding tens of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of additional articles to Wikipedia. Russ Blau (talk) 14:17, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)
    • Why is non-updating stubs on elected representatives an inherent problem? If information is missing from an article, this "problem" can be "solved" by editing the article. This applies to all biographical articles. It's a Wiki, folks!--Tony Sidaway|Talk 17:55, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment As one way of avoiding the Is this person still in office? Has this page ever been updated? problem while still making information available on state (or equivalent) legislators (which is undoubtedly encyclopedic) how about a page with links to the member information which I suspect all state legislatures maintain. I'm not volunteering to do that now but maybe in the future if someone doesn't beat me to it. -EDM 17:43, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Remind me, why was this article on a representative in the North Carolina General Assembly listed for deletion? --Tony Sidaway|Talk 17:52, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. If so few members of the Michigan State House of Representatives have articles of their own, perhaps someone should get to work on that. --PHenry 20:56, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep Member of legislative body. Capitalistroadster 07:09, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Neutralitytalk 20:52, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)
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