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Portuguese Communist Party

This is a self-nomination, altough it may seem political propaganda, and I admit that it may seem, I propose the nomination for the extensive history of the Party section and the detailed info about electoral results, the party's media and the pictures gallery. - Afonso Silva 16:12, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• Object: A) Seems somewhat slanted towards a pro-POV, and B) the writing is not very good (I just went through and fixed a whole bunch of minor things, like capitalizing "portuguese" and using past tense for past events). Everyking 17:28, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Object: As noted above, the prose isn't up to the standard of featured articles. Phils 18:36, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• Comment: All right, but it would be better if someone pointed objective problems in the article, Everyking writes about the NPOV question, I assume that it might be a valid problem, but I'd like to know where are such non-NPOV parts, that would be a much better feed-back action and only that will lead to a concrete correction of the problem. The other question about the prose is the most important, but if I am the writer of the article I think that at a certain point it will become difficult to spot my own mistakes, because they have origin in something I don't know about. The sub-point related to the past events being reported with some little present tenses is a tricky question, mainly in the context in which it ocurrs, the history, that is a narrative part of the article and so, I don't find the contradiction. -Afonso Silva 22:20, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• This is one of the most egregiously POV articles I have seen nominated on this page. I tried to make some fairly minor changes in order to get rid of the bias, but the user who nominated the article for featured status quickly reverted them without explanation. With due respect, I strongly object. Hydriotaphia 21:31, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

• Comment: I agree with all the work you've done, it is a bit difficult for me, being a Party's supporter, to build a strictly NPOV article, with the exception of two changes that you made, which I reverted:

The one about the readers of Bandeira Vermelha, (you said that it was popular among those who were sympathetic to the Party's aims... Before the foundation of the Party itself...). The second one was the correction you made about the Colonial war, I think my correction is NPOV, you may read it, if you want. Both edits are commented, try to check the article history:

---> 18:01, 19 Apr 2005 Afonso Silva (→Outlawing of the Party and the long anti-fascist struggle - new prose about the colonial war, hope it is NPOV);

---> 17:46, 19 Apr 2005 Afonso Silva (how could that be before the foundation of the PCP?)

The other main change to your edit was made by Soman, and refers to the objective conditions to support the Agrarian Reform, which were not pro-POV, it was just a report about the objective conditions that the Party had to support it, maybe you don't understand the European political relations, there are more than only two parties here... Back to the edit talk, check what I've said, please. Afonso Silva 16:49, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)