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Do most commercial cases "re" bind books?[edit]

This article states "In almost all commercial cases, the book in question began as a paperback version." I would suspect that in many, if not most, commercial cases the books began as a set of unbound signatures.

As part of a bibliographic project I inspected ~50 books this morning at the library as as part of that discovered quite a few of that were "prebound." I was familiar with the concept but not the term and eventually found this Wikipedia article (after first visiting prebinding). All of the publications I saw today were of high quality and nothing like the re-binding I've occasionally seen where it's obvious the cover got chopped off a paperback which was then glued into a more substantial binding. Most of the prebound books I saw today were manufactured by Baker & Taylor which advertises their "prebinds" but does not spell out how Baker & Taylor manufactures them.

Thus the present "dispute" is between an article that does not cite sources and my personal observations. Both are worthless for Wikipedia. --Marc Kupper|talk 04:56, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I just realized that one of the things librarians do is to reinforce the binding of publications to improve their durability. Publishers, book jobbers, and other businesses that sell to this market must have then started offering "prebound" copies where either the publisher or distributor does the reinforcement either as part of manufacturing or as a service. Here is a request for bids from a school district that spells out their requirements for prebound paperback and hardcover books.

Thus "prebound" or "prebinding" must have started out as a marketing term. I did a Cengage search for "(tx (prebound)) And (tx (books))" and earliest hits is in 1998 and there are only three hits for the 1990s:

"Advantage Learning Announces New Distribution Agreements." PR Newswire 3 Sept. 1998: 903MNTH022. "Perma-Bound, a division of Hertzberg-New Method of Jacksonville, Ill., manufactures and sells quality prebound books to schools."
"DIRECTORY OF COMPANIES." Library Journal 124.20 (1999): S15. "Bound To Stay Bound Books, Inc. ... www.btsb.com ... BTSB provides prebound juvenile library books and CD-ROM titles with full processing and automation support available."
Felix, Kathie. "New watch: Net teaching." Multimedia Schools 6.3 (1999): 14-15. "The Educational Paperback Association (EPA) Web site provides easy access to information on member publishers and distributors, discounts on paperback and prebound books for classrooms and libraries, and links to related Web resources. ... www.edupaperback.org"

These results are likely influenced by FUTON bias though it at least gives a hint on when it appeared though it gets us no closer to getting reliable, independent, sources that define the word for us. --Marc Kupper|talk 17:03, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

FUTON improves:

"Chicagoan Simplifies Library Work" by Alberita R. Semrad, Christian Science Monitor Oct 4, 1957. page 6 (Women Today section) 525 words. "... traveling the Midwest as representative of a Prebound Book company"
https://www.ideals.illinois.edu/bitstream/handle/2142/5645/librarytrendsv4i3c_opt.pdf is excellent and is an article from Library Trends, IV (Jan., 1956). See page 11 in the PDF. I don't have time this weekend to update the Wikipedia article. --Marc Kupper|talk 17:50, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Library Bound[edit]

So is this just Library Binding that has been done by the publisher? If so does it deserve it's own term? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.145.251.34 (talk) 13:04, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]