Talk:Eritrean–Ethiopian War

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Eritrean Casualities

I am confused as to how the figure of 150,000 dead Eritreans is being used as a reliable number. Upon looking at the "sources" it states that the figure was claimed by 'some people' without a definitive person or organization being mentioned. All other sources of casualties have this set as a minimal benchmark. If there are no objections I wish to have this figure removed due to lack of definitive source. Ericandude (talk) 12:33, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Ethiopia started the 1998-2000 Badme war, and attacked Eritrea at first by killing eight Eritrean soldiers near Eritrean Badme

There was no Eritrean invasion on Ethiopia.

Ethiopia invaded Eritrea. The TPLF led Ethiopian army invaded Eritrean As Murug in 1997.

The tplf led Ethiopian army occupied Eritrean Badme until 2020.

The TPLF led Ethiopian army started the 1998 border when they killed several Eritrean soldiers near Eritrean-Badme on May 6 1998.

So how has Eritrea invaded Ethiopia when Badme is Eritrean land, Ethiopia/TPLF have opened the fire at first killing erirean soldiers on Eritrean soil. Even having entered Admurug eritea in 1997.

And during the 1998-2000 border the Ethiopian army invaded Eritrea occupied 1/4th of Eritrea including gash Barka and Akele Guzay the southern highlands. They invaded erirea through the Ethiopian-Eritrean border and Eritrean Sudanese border.

The General of the Ethiopia army Berhanu Jula, UN official Joseph Legwaila, Leaked conversation of meles Zenawi, Globalsecurity.org, Herman J Cohen and the Ethiopian American development council all stated that Ethiopia/TPLF started the war.

I can provide you all links to it in case you want to edit this misleading claim about David attacking Goliath at first

The international community awarded Badme to Eritrea, so Ethiopia was the aggressor == And international commission did not investigate the advance of the Ethiopian army in Admurug Eritrea in 1997, besides that 1/4 of Eritrea Gash Barka to Akele Guzay were under Ethiopian occupation, so who has invaded who?

An American security think thank Globalsecurity.org stated that Tplf led Ethiopian army started the first strike which led to the 1998 border war. According to several historical sources, on 6 May 1998 Ethiopian troops shot Eritrean soldiers near Badme. This incident provoked a heavy military response from Eritrea, soon matched by Ethiopia, which quickly escalated into war. Source: Globalsecurity.org https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/eritrea.

Leaked conversation of UN official Joseph Legweila stated that Ethiopia was the aggressor of the 1998 border war. According to leaked conversation of UN official Joseph Legwaila (by Julian Assange’s Wikileaks), Ethiopia/TPLF hesitated to withdraw from Badme because it would have made Ethiopia appear as the instigator& aggressor of the 1998-2000 Ethiopia-Eritrean border war. Qoute: ‘Ethiopia cannot accept Badme as Eritrean territory, Legwaila explained, as doing so would compel Ethiopia to recognize that it was the aggressor when entering Badme during 1998 hostilities.‘

3. former Ethiopian general/TPLF official General Tsadkan who led the invasion on Eritrea in 1998 advised Meles Zenawi to invade Eritrea and seize the Assab port

Former US Secretary for African affairs Herman J Cohen: ‘Meles started the war‘ Letter of the Ethiopian American development council to President Joe Biden (2021) : ‚cross border conflict with Eritrea in the late 1990s instigated by the TPLF.‘ https://aepact.org/an-open-letter-to-president-joseph-r-biden-jr-from-the-prime-minister-abiy-ahmed-of-ethiopia-september-17-2021-addis-ababa/?

Ethiopian Field Marshall Berhanu Jula of the Ethiopian army about the 1998-2000 border war: In 1998 TPLF leaders ordered us to attack Eritrea & then told the world Eritrea attacked Ethiopia https://x.com/Sanpaulo888/status/1717919069326778385 2003:CB:4F24:5000:55BF:4885:9ECA:A4ED (talk) 18:46, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Discrete diplomatic efforts failed to defuse the Eritrea-Ethiopia crisis as it was building up in 1997-98. After a series of armed incidents during which several Eritrean officials were murdered near the disputed village of Badme , the Eritrean army rolled into the area with a large mechanized force and took the village. Shortly afterward, Ethiopia , claiming it had been invaded, declared “total war” on Eritrea and mobilized its armed forces for a full-scale assault.

https://fpif.org/eritreaethiopia_war_looms/ 2003:CB:4F24:5000:55BF:4885:9ECA:A4ED (talk) 18:49, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Former US Secretary for African affairs Herman J Cohen: ‘Meles started the war‘. He said this in an interview with Ethiopian news media ESAT. 2003:CB:4F24:5000:55BF:4885:9ECA:A4ED (talk) 18:52, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Herman J Cohen: fmr US assistant Secretary for African affairs & US ambassador to Ethiopia:

The TPLF waged a totally unjustified and destructive war against #Eritrea during 1998-2002. For that reason, Eritrea will not cease its operations in Tigray until the TPLF is fully dissolved and disbursed. 2003:CB:4F24:5000:55BF:4885:9ECA:A4ED (talk) 18:54, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

== Wikipedia editors can you report neutral about Eritrea?

In the headline you state the international court made Eritrea responsible for the war? But only down below you state that the same international court admitted that disputed territories where the war started were Eritrean lands (Badme)? And only down below you state that Ethiopian troops killed several Eritrean soldiers near Ethiopian occupied Eritrean Badme which caused the 1998-2000 border war 2003:CB:4F24:5000:C8A6:78E:C19F:36A7 (talk) 09:58, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Is possible that you can add to the headline that Ethiopia occupied Eritrean Badme and killed eight Eritrean soldiers on May 6 1998. Source: Globalsecurity.org https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/eritrea.htm

https://fpif.org/eritreaethiopia_war_looms/

Is it also possible that you can add to the headline that the Ethiopian army marched to Eritrean village of Ad Murug in 1997.

August 1997, Ethiopian troops occupied the Eritrean village of Adi Murug under the pretext of pursuing "terrorists". In the same month Ethiopia expelled Eritrean citizens from their homes around Badme. These expulsions and the destruction of crops and other property continued throughout the next year. Two rounds of fighting followed in 1998 and 1999. http://www.eritrea.be/old/eritrea-ethiopia.htm

Is also possible that you can add to the headline that the TPLF government of Ethiopia issued a new Tigray map in 1997 which shows Badme on Ethiopian side of the border?

The new Tigray map Ethiopian territorial claims are based on a recently published new map of the Tigray administrative zone. In the map shown below the new 1997 Ethiopian map (f.e. as posted by the Ethiopian Embassy in Sweden and the National Electoral Board of Ethiopia) is superimposed on the map of Eritrea in the CIA fact book of Eritrea. It can be easily seen that by drawing this new map Ethiopia is administratively occupying a part of Gash Setit and parts of Akule Guzai, violating the legal borders, established by treaties signed with Italy in 1900, 1902 and 1908. (anyone can compare this new Tigray map to any other map on the internet and simply verify it is a fabrication of the Ethiopian government, see e.g. the "political map of Ethiopia" used in Ethiopian geography books in the 70's).

http://www.eritrea.be/old/eritrea-ethiopia.htm