Talk:List of animal names

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Group names sources[edit]

Sourcing oxen terms[edit]

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Citations:kine#English - kine is not a collective noun, but a simple plural.

https://www.britannica.com/animal/ox-mammal-Bos-taurus - Ox is a generic singular gender neutral term for cattle. Albeit, in sourcing this, there is a substantial amount of use of it for a bullock (Br. Eng) or steer (Am. Eng). Likely a later change to the use of the word, but language does morph. Speaking of bullocks...

https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/bullock, https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/bullock, https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/bullock, https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/bullock - bullock as a male term.

I see no issue with these changes, if cited on the article. The current content is not sourced and has been challenged, so open to being removed unless someone can source it. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 12:47, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've added cites to this from the above links. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 17:09, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Appreciated 82.11.195.62 (talk) 17:36, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

leverine with no citation[edit]

Under hare, it has "leverine [citation needed]" dated 2019. I'm a newbie here & would like to understand how this works. Is the info deleted after some amount of time? How much time? Who does the deletion? If time is up & anyone can delete, is it ok for me to delete it? I could not find any info about this term when related to hares. Sunandshade (talk) 05:38, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There's no set amount of time; anyone can delete it at any time if they look into it and find that it's false. I'm guessing whoever put that [citation needed] tag there was tagging all of the unsourced terms and didn't have time to research each one. But if you've done that for "leverine" and found it to be unsupported, then please go ahead! Justin Kunimune (talk) 12:08, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I did do an extensive web search & found nothing. But am I expected to do research for items that are not on the web? That would entail tons of books, magazines, newspapers, etc. Sunandshade (talk) 18:45, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No, a web search is enough. If whoever added that wants it to stay, the onus is on them to dig up a source for it. Justin Kunimune (talk) 12:03, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Generic terms vs Species/Taxon terms[edit]

Confused as to what goes in each section. For Generic terms, under Leporidae (rabbits/hares), for male is has jack. Does that mean both rabbits & hares can use this term? Or, does it mean only 1 can use this term, but the Generic table is to include ALL terms for all animals in that category? Sunandshade (talk) 07:02, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think it should be the first interpretation, that the term can be used for any animal in that category. If it was the second, the table would be much longer and redundant with the "specific species or taxon" table. Justin Kunimune (talk) 12:06, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Makes sense. On a related note, some cells have "-" & some have "?". It seems they should be the same. While they might have slightly different meanings (not sure vs unknown), I really don't think that was intended. Would it be a good idea to make them the same? I'm partial to "-". I'm not that proficient in html, but looking at the code, it doesn't seem too complicated. It would be nice to have a find/replace action but I can't find one for the html code. Is there one? Sunandshade (talk) 17:05, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Good catch. I agree that "–" is better. The web editor has no find/replace feature as far as I know, but one can paste the code into a text editor, find/replace there, and paste it back into the browser. I just made that change. Justin Kunimune (talk) 13:13, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"List of gender names" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

The redirect List of gender names has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 26 § List of gender names until a consensus is reached. –CopperyMarrow15 (talk | edits) Feel free to ping me! 19:49, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Human young[edit]

I see the following listed among the young of humans: baby, boy (male), child, girl (female), and infant.  I was always under the impression that kid was another of the accepted terms for human young.  Is this a misconception?  Is there a reason why kid is not listed?  allixpeeke (talk) 04:21, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Though widely used, "kid" is still a slang term for a human child, not a scientific one. This being an encyclopedia, we do not intermix scientific and slang terms in our articles. General Ization Talk 04:24, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vultures[edit]

There are three different collective nouns for vultures (kettle, committee, and wake) listed on the wiki page for vultures (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulture), including a footnote for the source ([6] Hamilton, S.L. (2014). "Sky Burials").

I am sure the source is correct, but I cannot provide a second source. I had encountered those collective nouns elsewhere, but I forget where other than it was a website about word usage.

I am too inexperienced with wiki editing to know how to add a new line to the matrix for vultures. Rendel B. Moshe (talk) 22:58, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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