Wikipedia talk:Requested moves
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I feel like a lot of the requests that get contested fall into some extremely common PCM scenarios that are not detailed anywhere and are overall not intuitive to people unfamiliar with page move processes (a lot of RMTR requestors fall into this). The most common reasons for contests that I've seen after about a year of watching and processing requests are COMMONNAME over official name, company name changes and primary topic grabs. I feel like it would be worth throwing in PCM at least just those two because of how common they are. Wider input would be appreciated. Sennecaster (Chat) 01:13, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- This seems like a good idea to me! I wonder if it would also be useful to have an essay that catalogues common types of requests, and the policy questions that are likely to come into play for them, in more detail than would be feasible in WP:PCM itself. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 19:10, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
Request to close all outstanding RM discussions carte blanche[edit]
Enough is enough. The backlog is never-ending, especially with the NCROY-related discussions. Requesting for permission to close all outstanding discussions at the whims and fancy of the closers with no recourse at WP:MRV.[April Fools!] – robertsky (talk) 08:57, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- Only if you get a coin-flip AI to determine the outcome and write the close. Primefac (talk) 09:10, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Royal Challengers Bangalore needs closing; the discussion is a convincing support that is over 7 days old. It is a high volume page and has been move protected. The tournament they play in is happening right now, and its going to be odd for those readers to find the team with the wrong name. Desertarun (talk) 08:27, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Desertarun: You can request a closure at WP:CR, but the request should be neutral. SilverLocust 💬 21:16, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- I also suggest to be aware that requested move discussions sometimes take a while – especially when there are significant differences of opinion and policy/guideline issues, as in the situation with that one. — BarrelProof (talk) 04:11, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
Implied moves[edit]
I notice that WP:RMCD now lists a number of implied moves, as in "Fubar → Fubar (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary". I see three problems with the way this is working:
- No move notice is getting put at the top of the "Fubar" page.
- Even though these are listed at WP:RMCD, they do not appear on the Talk page where the discussion is happening, thus lowering awareness of part of what is being suggested.
- It's a little dangerous to assume the nominator knows they are suggesting the implied move. Often, inexperienced editors just think "Everybody calls him Bill Smith, not William G. Smith, so I'll just suggest renaming the article to Bill Smith," without realizing there's a problem with that idea.
— BarrelProof (talk) 04:01, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Since WP:RMCD is a page generated by RMCD bot, needless to say this was added by the bot's operator, @Wbm1058. He added that to the bot's listings after Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 23#Deleted to make way for page move. (While his new method for handling these doesn't add an RM banner to the disambiguation page or show the implied move within the RM, the bot does add a notice in a new section on the disambiguation page's talk page.)
- Before November, these RMs were being manually amended (example 1, 2) to explicitly state a destination for both pages (most frequently by @Paine Ellsworth; also by me and others) so that (1) both pages would have an RM banner and (2) it would be clear (for those who don't have color-coded dablinks enabled) that the proposed title is currently a disambiguation page.
- I preferred to complete the requests just by indicating a second move to add "(disambiguation)" to the dabpage's title, but some users objected to that when moving the disambiguation page would make it unnecessary (WP:ONEOTHER), and instead wanted it to be stated as "→ Deleted to make way for page move" or similar.
- (As Wbm1058 noted, the dabpage should still be moved even if it would then be deleted, and it's unnecessary for the RM to discuss deleting the dabpage, which can be handled via CSD or a PROD.) SilverLocust 💬 05:57, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Previous discussions related to these matters, which continue to be an annoyance, are archived at Wikipedia talk:Requested moves/Archive 33#Request all associated moves explicitly, Wikipedia talk:Requested moves/Archive 33#"Request all associated moves explicitly", and User talk:RMCD bot/Archive 2#Incomplete requests. We definitely do not want to literally, explicitly, move an article or a disambiguation page to an article titled Deleted to make way for page move. That's absurd. Deleted to make way for page move is not an encyclopedic topic. RM is for requesting page moves, not page deletions.
- Further at the root of these issues is the 3 December 2019 addition of the new section §Make explicit all moves in the request, which declared all such requests "MALFORMED" and "likely to be summarily discarded", while this is a frequently-occurring scenario and what is requested is patently obvious in the majority of cases, even if not "explicitly declared". – wbm1058 (talk) 14:52, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
relist request[edit]
Hi, per User talk:JuniperChill#Talk:Hamme#Requested move 10 April 2024 the closing editor says we can relist. Can someone in the know please assist, I don't want to break any bot workflow? --Joy (talk) 07:23, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- Done. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 07:52, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Adding hyphens to French personal names[edit]
I started a discussion on WP:MOSFR's talk page (here) about the following pages whose English titles lack hyphens in the given name whereas the French Wikipedia articles do have the hyphen(s). I'm unsure (1) whether following the WP:RMPM guidance here would be unduly disruptive (having a bot touch hundreds of talk pages?) and (2) whether it's even technically feasible (can the hundreds of targets really be listed as arguments in a single subst'ed Template:requested move?) So I'm posting the list of page moves on this Talk page instead of on WP:RM, and hoping that someone with more automated powers and/or expertise will tell me what's the best way to proceed from here. --Quuxplusone (talk) 19:30, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Anne Catherine of Brandenburg → Anne-Catherine of Brandenburg
- Anne Charles Hérisson → Anne-Charles Hérisson
- Anne Christine of Sulzbach, Princess of Piedmont → Anne-Christine of Sulzbach, Princess of Piedmont
- Anne Cécile Lequien → Anne-Cécile Lequien
- Anne Emmanuel, 8th Duke of Croÿ → Anne-Emmanuel, 8th Duke of Croÿ
- Anne Fatoumata M'Bairo → Anne-Fatoumata M'Bairo
- Anne Geneviève de Bourbon → Anne-Geneviève de Bourbon
- Anne Geneviève de Lévis → Anne-Geneviève de Lévis
- Anne Joseph Hippolyte de Maurès, Comte de Malartic → Anne-Joseph-Hippolyte de Maurès, Comte de Malartic
- Anne Jules de Noailles, 2nd Duke of Noailles → Anne-Jules de Noailles, 2nd Duke of Noailles
- Anne Louis Henri de La Fare → Anne-Louis-Henri de La Fare
- Anne Louise Marie de Beauvau → Anne-Louise-Marie de Beauvau
- Anne Marie Louise → Anne-Marie-Louise
- Anne Marie Louise d'Orléans, Duchess of Montpensier → Anne-Marie-Louise d'Orléans, Duchess of Montpensier
- Anne Marie Louise de La Tour d'Auvergne → Anne-Marie-Louise de La Tour d'Auvergne
- Anne Marie Martinozzi → Anne-Marie Martinozzi
- Anne Marie Palli → Anne-Marie Palli
- Anne Marie d'Orléans → Anne-Marie d'Orléans
- Anne Marie de Beauvilliers → Anne-Marie de Beauvilliers
- Anne Marie de Bourbon → Anne-Marie de Bourbon
- Anne Nicole Voullemier → Anne-Nicole Voullemier
- Anne Pierre de Kat → Anne-Pierre de Kat
- Anne Sophie Mathis → Anne-Sophie Mathis
- Anne Sophie Reventlow → Anne-Sophie Reventlow
- Anne Victoire Dervieux → Anne-Victoire Dervieux
- Antoine Alexandre Barbier → Antoine-Alexandre Barbier
- Antoine Augustin Cournot → Antoine-Augustin Cournot
- Antoine Charles de Gramont, 3rd Duke of Gramont → Antoine-Charles de Gramont, 3rd Duke of Gramont
- Antoine François Desrues → Antoine-François Desrues
- Antoine François Marmontel → Antoine-François Marmontel
- Antoine Gaston de Roquelaure → Antoine-Gaston de Roquelaure
- Antoine Henri de Bérault-Bercastel → Antoine-Henri de Bérault-Bercastel
- Antoine Isaac Silvestre de Sacy → Antoine-Isaac Silvestre de Sacy
- Antoine Joseph Gorsas → Antoine-Joseph Gorsas
- Antoine Joseph Jobert de Lamballe → Antoine-Joseph Jobert de Lamballe
- Antoine Joseph Lavigne → Antoine-Joseph Lavigne
- Antoine Jérôme Balard → Antoine-Jérôme Balard
- Antoine Laurent de Jussieu → Antoine-Laurent de Jussieu
- Antoine Louis Marie de Gramont, 8th Duke of Gramont → Antoine-Louis-Marie de Gramont, 8th Duke of Gramont
- Antoine Louis Albitte → Antoine-Louis Albitte
- Antoine Michel Filhol → Antoine-Michel Filhol
- Antoine Philippe de La Trémoille → Antoine-Philippe de La Trémoille
- Auguste Charlotte von Kielmannsegge → Auguste-Charlotte von Kielmannsegge
- Auguste François Chomel → Auguste-François Chomel
- Auguste François Le Jolis → Auguste-François Le Jolis
- Auguste Henri Vildieu → Auguste-Henri Vildieu
- Auguste Léopold Protet → Auguste-Léopold Protet
- Auguste Pierre Chouteau → Auguste-Pierre Chouteau
- Claude Adrien Helvétius → Claude-Adrien Helvétius
- Claude André Deseine → Claude-André Deseine
- Claude Antoine Gabriel de Choiseul, Duke of Choiseul → Claude-Antoine-Gabriel de Choiseul, Duke of Choiseul
- Claude Antoine Dacosta → Claude-Antoine Dacosta
- Claude Antoine, comte Prieur-Duvernois → Claude-Antoine, comte Prieur-Duvernois
- Claude Casimir Gillet → Claude-Casimir Gillet
- Claude Ferdinand Gaillard → Claude-Ferdinand Gaillard
- Claude François Ferey → Claude-François Ferey
- Claude François de Malet → Claude-François de Malet
- Claude Frédéric t'Serclaes, Count of Tilly → Claude-Frédéric t'Serclaes, Count of Tilly
- Claude Joseph Dorat → Claude-Joseph Dorat
- Claude Joseph Geoffroy → Claude-Joseph Geoffroy
- Claude Juste Alexandre Legrand → Claude-Juste-Alexandre Legrand
- Claude Lamoral, 3rd Prince of Ligne → Claude-Lamoral, 3rd Prince of Ligne
- Claude Louis Berthollet → Claude-Louis Berthollet
- Claude Louis Petiet → Claude-Louis Petiet
- Claude Louis, Comte de Saint-Germain → Claude-Louis, Comte de Saint-Germain
- Claude Marie Dubuis → Claude-Marie Dubuis
- Claude Nicolas Ledoux → Claude-Nicolas Ledoux
- Claude Prosper Jolyot de Crébillon → Claude-Prosper Jolyot de Crébillon
- François Alexandre Pierre de Garsault → François-Alexandre Pierre de Garsault
- François Annibal d'Estrées → François-Annibal d'Estrées
- François Antoine de Boissy d'Anglas → François-Antoine de Boissy d'Anglas
- François Antoine Marie Constantin de Méan et de Beaurieux → François-Antoine Marie Constantin de Méan et de Beaurieux
- François Auguste de Thou → François-Auguste de Thou
- François Cornil Bart → François-Cornil Bart
- François César Le Tellier, Marquis of Courtanvaux → François-César Le Tellier, Marquis of Courtanvaux
- François Dominique de Barberie de Saint-Contest → François-Dominique de Barberie de Saint-Contest
- François Désiré Drure → François-Désiré Drure
- François Henri Turpin → François-Henri Turpin
- François Henri, comte de Virieu → François-Henri, comte de Virieu
- François Jean Baptiste Quesnel → François-Jean-Baptiste Quesnel
- François Jean Pelletier → François-Jean Pelletier
- François Joseph Bosio → François-Joseph Bosio
- François Joseph Heim → François-Joseph Heim
- François Joseph Lestiboudois → François-Joseph Lestiboudois
- François Joseph Westermann → François-Joseph Westermann
- François Joseph de Gratet, vicomte Dubouchage → François-Joseph de Gratet, vicomte Dubouchage
- François Joseph Lagrange-Chancel → François-Joseph Lagrange-Chancel
- François Jules Pictet de la Rive → François-Jules Pictet de la Rive
- François Louis Bourdon → François-Louis Bourdon
- François Louis, Prince of Conti → François-Louis, Prince of Conti
- François Louis, Count of Harcourt → François-Louis, Count of Harcourt
- François Marie Savina → François-Marie Savina
- François Marie Suzanne → François-Marie Suzanne
- François Marie de Broglie, 1st Duke of Broglie → François-Marie de Broglie, 1st Duke of Broglie
- François Marie, Prince of Lillebonne → François-Marie, Prince of Lillebonne
- François Norbert Blanchet → François-Norbert Blanchet
- François Pierre Huon de Kermadec → François-Pierre Huon de Kermadec
- François Victor Le Tonnelier de Breteuil → François-Victor Le Tonnelier de Breteuil
- François Xavier d'Entrecolles → François-Xavier d'Entrecolles
- Françoise Madeleine d'Orléans → Françoise-Madeleine d'Orléans
- Françoise Marie de Bourbon → Françoise-Marie de Bourbon
- Guy André Pierre de Montmorency-Laval → Guy-André-Pierre de Montmorency-Laval
- Guy Auguste de Rohan-Chabot → Guy-Auguste de Rohan-Chabot
- Guy Michel de Durfort, 2nd Duke of Lorges → Guy-Michel de Durfort, 2nd Duke of Lorges
- Henri Albert de La Grange d'Arquien → Henri-Albert de La Grange d'Arquien
- Henri Alexis Brialmont → Henri-Alexis Brialmont
- Henri Alfred Jacquemart → Henri-Alfred Jacquemart
- Henri Antoine Jacques → Henri-Antoine Jacques
- Henri Charles Arnauld de Pomponne → Henri-Charles Arnauld de Pomponne
- Henri Charles du Cambout, 3rd Duke of Coislin → Henri-Charles du Cambout, 3rd Duke of Coislin
- Henri François Anne de Roussel → Henri-François-Anne de Roussel
- Henri François Xavier de Belsunce de Castelmoron → Henri-François-Xavier de Belsunce de Castelmoron
- Henri Gatien Bertrand → Henri-Gatien Bertrand
- Henri Jacques Guillaume Clarke → Henri-Jacques-Guillaume Clarke
- Henri Jules, Prince of Condé → Henri-Jules, Prince of Condé
- Henri Lucien Doucet → Henri-Lucien Doucet
- Henri Marie Ducrotay de Blainville → Henri-Marie Ducrotay de Blainville
- Henri Nompar de Caumont, 3rd Duke of La Force → Henri-Nompar de Caumont, 3rd Duke of La Force
- Henri Paul Nénot → Henri-Paul Nénot
- Henri Raphaël Moncassin → Henri-Raphaël Moncassin
- Hercule Mériadec de Rohan → Hercule-Mériadec de Rohan
- Hercule Mériadec, Prince of Guéméné → Hercule-Mériadec, Prince of Guéméné
- Hercule Mériadec, Duke of Rohan-Rohan → Hercule-Mériadec, Duke of Rohan-Rohan
- Jacques Alexandre Le Tenneur → Jacques-Alexandre Le Tenneur
- Jacques Alexis de Verteuil → Jacques-Alexis de Verteuil
- Jacques Amand Eudes-Deslongchamps → Jacques-Amand Eudes-Deslongchamps
- Jacques Antoine Hippolyte, Comte de Guibert → Jacques-Antoine-Hippolyte, Comte de Guibert
- Jacques Antoine Bernard → Jacques-Antoine Bernard
- Jacques Camille Paris → Jacques-Camille Paris
- Jacques Charles Brunet → Jacques-Charles Brunet
- Jacques Charles de Fitz-James, 5th Duke of Fitz-James → Jacques-Charles de Fitz-James, 5th Duke of Fitz-James
- Jacques François Mouret → Jacques-François Mouret
- Jacques François Rosart → Jacques-François Rosart
- Jacques Georges Deyverdun → Jacques-Georges Deyverdun
- Jacques Gervais, baron Subervie → Jacques-Gervais, baron Subervie
- Jacques Guillaume Thouret → Jacques-Guillaume Thouret
- Jacques Léopold de La Tour d'Auvergne → Jacques-Léopold de La Tour d'Auvergne
- Jacques Marie Boudin de Tromelin de La Nuguy → Jacques-Marie Boudin de Tromelin de La Nuguy
- Jacques Mathieu Delpech → Jacques-Mathieu Delpech
- Jacques Paul Migne → Jacques-Paul Migne
- Jacques Pierre Abbatucci (politician) → Jacques-Pierre Abbatucci (politician)
- Jean Alfred Fournier → Jean-Alfred Fournier
- Jean Alphonse Roehn → Jean-Alphonse Roehn
- Jean Antoine Injalbert → Jean-Antoine Injalbert
- Jean Antoine Laurent → Jean-Antoine Laurent
- Jean Antoine Rossignol → Jean-Antoine Rossignol
- Jean Auguste Berthaut → Jean-Auguste Berthaut
- Jean Auguste Margueritte → Jean-Auguste Margueritte
- Jean Balthasar Tricklir → Jean-Balthasar Tricklir
- Jean Baptiste Camille Canclaux → Jean-Baptiste-Camille Canclaux
- Jean Baptiste Gaspard Roux de Rochelle → Jean-Baptiste-Gaspard Roux de Rochelle
- Jean Baptiste Abbeloos → Jean-Baptiste Abbeloos
- Jean Baptiste Boisduval → Jean-Baptiste Boisduval
- Jean Baptiste Noël Bouchotte → Jean-Baptiste Noël Bouchotte
- Jean Baptiste Brunet → Jean-Baptiste Brunet
- Jean Baptiste Carnoy → Jean-Baptiste Carnoy
- Jean Baptiste Charbonneau → Jean-Baptiste Charbonneau
- Jean Baptiste Colbert, Marquis of Seignelay → Jean-Baptiste Colbert, Marquis of Seignelay
- Jean Baptiste Colbert, Marquis of Torcy → Jean-Baptiste Colbert, Marquis of Torcy
- Jean Baptiste Douville → Jean-Baptiste Douville
- Jean Baptiste Marie Franceschi-Delonne → Jean-Baptiste Marie Franceschi-Delonne
- Jean Baptiste Félix Descuret → Jean-Baptiste Félix Descuret
- Jean Baptiste de La Vérendrye → Jean-Baptiste de La Vérendrye
- Jean Baptiste Gogain → Jean-Baptiste Gogain
- Jean Baptiste Guth → Jean-Baptiste Guth
- Jean Baptiste Joseph Delambre → Jean-Baptiste Joseph Delambre
- Jean Baptiste Joseph Gentil → Jean-Baptiste Joseph Gentil
- Jean Baptiste Lutz → Jean-Baptiste Lutz
- Jean Baptiste Loeillet of Ghent → Jean-Baptiste Loeillet of Ghent
- Jean Baptiste Meusnier → Jean-Baptiste Meusnier
- Jean Baptiste Massillon → Jean-Baptiste Massillon
- Jean Baptiste Mathey → Jean-Baptiste Mathey
- Jean Baptiste Mendy → Jean-Baptiste Mendy
- Jean Baptiste, marquis de Traversay → Jean-Baptiste, marquis de Traversay
- Jean Baptiste Rives → Jean-Baptiste Rives
- Jean Baptiste Rousseau (fur trader) → Jean-Baptiste Rousseau (fur trader)
- Jean Baptiste Smits → Jean-Baptiste Smits
- Jean Baptiste Gay, 1st Viscount of Martignac → Jean-Baptiste Gay, 1st Viscount of Martignac
- Jean Baptiste Treilhard → Jean-Baptiste Treilhard
- Jean Baptiste Vaillant → Jean-Baptiste Vaillant
- Jean Baptiste van Eycken → Jean-Baptiste van Eycken
- Jean Baptiste Vermay → Jean-Baptiste Vermay
- Jean Baptiste Virlogeux → Jean-Baptiste Virlogeux
- Jean Baptiste Vérany → Jean-Baptiste Vérany
- Jean Baptiste d'Estrehan → Jean-Baptiste d'Estrehan
- Jean Baptiste Julien d'Omalius d'Halloy → Jean-Baptiste Julien d'Omalius d'Halloy
- Jean Baptiste de Caux of Blacquetot → Jean-Baptiste de Caux of Blacquetot
- Jean Baptiste de Champaigne → Jean-Baptiste de Champaigne
- Jean Baptiste de Durfort, 3rd Duke of Duras → Jean-Baptiste de Durfort, 3rd Duke of Duras
- Jean Baptiste de La Rochefoucauld, Duke of Anville → Jean-Baptiste de La Rochefoucauld, Duke of Anville
- Jean Baptiste Joseph, chevalier de Laumoy → Jean-Baptiste Joseph, chevalier de Laumoy
- Jean Baptiste Antoine Auget de Montyon → Jean-Baptiste Antoine Auget de Montyon
- Jean Baptiste Richardville → Jean-Baptiste Richardville
- Jean Baptiste Vanmour → Jean-Baptiste Vanmour
- Jean Baptiste Eblé → Jean-Baptiste Eblé
- Jean Bernard Bossu → Jean-Bernard Bossu
- Jean Bernard Tarbé de Vauxclairs → Jean-Bernard Tarbé de Vauxclairs
- Jean Bosco Mwenda → Jean-Bosco Mwenda
- Jean Bretagne Charles de La Trémoille → Jean-Bretagne-Charles de La Trémoille
- Jean Charles Baquoy → Jean-Charles Baquoy
- Jean Charles Flipart → Jean-Charles Flipart
- Jean Charles Mattei → Jean-Charles Mattei
- Jean Charles Athanase Peltier → Jean-Charles Athanase Peltier
- Jean Claude Bouquet → Jean-Claude Bouquet
- Jean Denis Attiret → Jean-Denis Attiret
- Jean Eudes Demaret → Jean-Eudes Demaret
- Jean François Aimé Dejean → Jean-François-Aimé Dejean
- Jean François de Bette, 3rd Marquess of Lede → Jean-François de Bette, 3rd Marquess of Lede
- Jean François Boursault-Malherbe → Jean-François Boursault-Malherbe
- Jean François Carteaux → Jean-François Carteaux
- Jean François Ekofo Panzoko → Jean-François Ekofo Panzoko
- Jean François Foppens → Jean-François Foppens
- Jean François Gail → Jean-François Gail
- Jean François Graindorge → Jean-François Graindorge
- Jean François Hamtramck → Jean-François Hamtramck
- Jean François Langlois → Jean-François Langlois
- Jean François Niceron → Jean-François Niceron
- Jean François Paul de Gondi → Jean-François Paul de Gondi
- Jean François Pons → Jean-François Pons
- Jean François Sarrazin → Jean-François Sarrazin
- Jean François de Saint-Lambert → Jean-François de Saint-Lambert
- Jean Frédéric Phélypeaux, Count of Maurepas → Jean-Frédéric Phélypeaux, Count of Maurepas
- Jean Georges Lefranc de Pompignan → Jean-Georges Lefranc de Pompignan
- Jean Germain Drouais → Jean-Germain Drouais
- Jean Guillaume Bruguière → Jean-Guillaume Bruguière
- Jean Gustave Courcelle-Seneuil → Jean-Gustave Courcelle-Seneuil
- Jean Henri Hassenfratz → Jean-Henri Hassenfratz
- Jean Henri Riesener → Jean-Henri Riesener
- Jean Isaac Chadeau de la Clocheterie → Jean-Isaac Chadeau de la Clocheterie
- Jean Jacques Flipart → Jean-Jacques Flipart
- Jean Jacques Surian → Jean-Jacques Surian
- Jean Joseph François Poujoulat → Jean-Joseph-François Poujoulat
- Jean Joseph Victor Génissieu → Jean-Joseph-Victor Génissieu
- Jean Joseph Delplancq → Jean-Joseph Delplancq
- Jean Joseph Dessolles, 1st Marquis Dessolles → Jean-Joseph Dessolles, 1st Marquis Dessolles
- Jean Joseph Mounier → Jean-Joseph Mounier
- Jean Joseph de Laborde, Marquis of Laborde → Jean-Joseph de Laborde, Marquis of Laborde
- Jean Jules Verdenal → Jean-Jules Verdenal
- Jean Julien Michel Savary → Jean-Julien Michel Savary
- Jean Louis Boigues → Jean-Louis Boigues
- Jean Louis Lucand → Jean-Louis Lucand
- Jean Louis Marie Poiret → Jean-Louis Marie Poiret
- Jean Louis Petitot → Jean-Louis Petitot
- Jean Louis Robinson → Jean-Louis Robinson
- Jean Louis Romeuf → Jean-Louis Romeuf
- Jean Louis d'Elderen → Jean-Louis d'Elderen
- Jean Louis de Nogaret de La Valette → Jean-Louis de Nogaret de La Valette
- Jean Léonard Marie Poiseuille → Jean-Léonard-Marie Poiseuille
- Jean Marc Michaud → Jean-Marc Michaud
- Jean Marc Ndjofang → Jean-Marc Ndjofang
- Jean Marie Despiau → Jean-Marie Despiau
- Jean Marie Le Bris → Jean-Marie Le Bris
- Jean Marie Sylla → Jean-Marie Sylla
- Jean Marie Antoine de Lanessan → Jean-Marie Antoine de Lanessan
- Jean Mathieu Seras → Jean-Mathieu Seras
- Jean Maxence Berrou → Jean-Maxence Berrou
- Jean Michel Larrasket → Jean-Michel Larrasket
- Jean Nicolas Louis Carré → Jean-Nicolas-Louis Carré
- Jean Nicolas Fortin → Jean-Nicolas Fortin
- Jean Noël Destréhan → Jean-Noël Destréhan
- Jean Patrice Ndaki Mboulet → Jean-Patrice Ndaki Mboulet
- Jean Paul Brusset → Jean-Paul Brusset
- Jean Paul Gaultier → Jean-Paul Gaultier
- Jean Paul Guhel → Jean-Paul Guhel
- Jean Paul Leon → Jean-Paul Leon
- Jean Paul Richter → Jean-Paul Richter
- Jean Paul de Gua de Malves → Jean-Paul de Gua de Malves
- Jean Philibert Damiron → Jean-Philibert Damiron
- Jean Philippe Eugène de Mérode → Jean-Philippe Eugène de Mérode
- Jean Philippe de Bela → Jean-Philippe de Bela
- Jean Pierre Capron → Jean-Pierre Capron
- Jean Pierre Jeandat → Jean-Pierre Jeandat
- Jean Pierre Mustier → Jean-Pierre Mustier
- Jean Pierre Noher → Jean-Pierre Noher
- Jean Pierre Soulier → Jean-Pierre Soulier
- Jean Pierre Étienne Vaucher → Jean-Pierre Étienne Vaucher
- Jean Pierre de Caussade → Jean-Pierre de Caussade
- Jean Raoul Chaurand-Naurac → Jean-Raoul Chaurand-Naurac
- Jean Raymond Peltier → Jean-Raymond Peltier
- Jean Renaud Adde → Jean-Renaud Adde
- Jean René Gauguin → Jean-René Gauguin
- Jean Robert Beaulé → Jean-Robert Beaulé
- Jean Serge Essous → Jean-Serge Essous
- Jean Théophile Victor Leclerc → Jean-Théophile Victor Leclerc
- Jean Victor Allard → Jean-Victor Allard
- Jean Victor Audouin → Jean-Victor Audouin
- Jean Victor de Constant Rebecque → Jean-Victor de Constant Rebecque
- Jean Victor Tharreau → Jean-Victor Tharreau
- Jean Vincent de Tulles → Jean-Vincent de Tulles
- Jean Yves Jason → Jean-Yves Jason
- Jean Zuléma Amussat → Jean-Zuléma Amussat
- Jean Étienne Bercé → Jean-Étienne Bercé
- Louis Alexandre, Count of Toulouse → Louis-Alexandre, Count of Toulouse
- Louis Alexandre, Prince of Lamballe → Louis-Alexandre, Prince of Lamballe
- Louis Alexis Baudoin → Louis-Alexis Baudoin
- Louis Amable Crapelet → Louis-Amable Crapelet
- Louis Antoine François de Marchangy → Louis-Antoine-François de Marchangy
- Louis Antoine de Bougainville → Louis-Antoine de Bougainville
- Louis Antoine, Duke of Enghien → Louis-Antoine, Duke of Enghien
- Louis Antoine de Noailles → Louis-Antoine de Noailles
- Louis Antoine de Pardaillan de Gondrin → Louis-Antoine de Pardaillan de Gondrin
- Louis Armand I, Prince of Conti → Louis-Armand I, Prince of Conti
- Louis Armand II, Prince of Conti → Louis-Armand II, Prince of Conti
- Louis Auguste d'Albert, 4th Duke of Chaulnes → Louis-Auguste d'Albert, 4th Duke of Chaulnes
- Louis Auguste, Duke of Maine → Louis-Auguste, Duke of Maine
- Louis Auguste, Prince of Dombes → Louis-Auguste, Prince of Dombes
- Louis Augustin Guillaume Bosc → Louis-Augustin Guillaume Bosc
- Louis Augustin de Monteclerc → Louis-Augustin de Monteclerc
- Louis Bernard Bonjean → Louis-Bernard Bonjean
- Louis Bernard Coclers → Louis-Bernard Coclers
- Louis Camille Maillard → Louis-Camille Maillard
- Louis Charles Alphonse Angers → Louis-Charles-Alphonse Angers
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