Talk:Earl of Huntingdon

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Difference[edit]

I've looked at Leigh Rayment's page [1], and it conflicts very badly with what we've got here. Any comments? Mackensen 22:53, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Future succession[edit]

The present Earl and his brother don't have heirs but I believe there is a junior branch of the family but I don't knwo the names.Alci12 17:47, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  Here is the Earldom of Huntingdon's succession list according to Burke's :
  1. Simon Aubrey Robin Hood Hastings-Bass (b. 2 May 1950), brother of the 17th Earl
  2. John Peter Robin Hood Hastings-Bass (b. 5 Jun. 1954), brother of the 17th Earl
  3. Warren Francis Hastings (b. 30 Apr. 1938), great-grandnephew of the 13th Earl
     by the first of his three brothers
  4. Adam Francis Hastings (b.1977), son of Warren Francis
  5. David Walter Theophilus (b. 4 May 1947), great-grandnephew of the 13th Earl 
     by the third of his three brothers
  6. Ian David (b.1975), son of David Walter Theophilus

It's not looking too healthy, is it? Are Ian David and Adam Francis married? Proteus (Talk) 17:52, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Henry of Scotland[edit]

It seems well documented that Henry of Scotland (1114-1152), 3rd Earl of Huntingdon, got that title after taking an oath for king Stephen in 1136 (in place of his father David I of Scotland) as part of the first treaty of Durham. So this mean 1) his mother Maud was probably dead at that time and that there is a break between 1130 and 1136; OR 2) he already held that title which was confirmed in 1136. see: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/16760/16760-8.txt

Article brief[edit]

The start of the article is far too long, it needs to be shortened but I do not know the template, can someone put it on there, thanks.Wikisaver62 (talk) 15:52, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Introduction[edit]

"chiefly associated"?
I’d have thought this title would be chiefly associated with the throne of Scotland. I've added a piece about the 1065 creation to bring this out. Swanny18 (talk) 18:13, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Move Baron Hastings[edit]

There was detail here about the 1461 Hastings barony that was more or less the same as the Baron Hastings page, so I've merged it. I hope that's OK with everyone. Swanny18 (talk) 08:48, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the dormancy and restoration[edit]

I've downloaded and started reading this book, which is a detailed account of the restoration of the Huntingdon Earldom after it fell dormant for 30 years. Essentially, when the 10th Earl died, the title went dormant until the man who was confirmed as the 12th Earl, a distant relative, came forward with a comprehensive and persuasive proof that he was the leigimate claimant.

The book is meticulous in detail, but somewhat tedious in part, as it consists of long recitations of the documentation required to prove that all the other potential claimants were deceased. I was surprised to find that we don't even have an entry on the 12th Earl.

I'm interested in input as to what other sources I might look for in writing that entry from scratch.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 16:36, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bell is unquestionably the best source on the claim to the peerage, and apparently has "curious stories" about the family. He was Hastings' friend and took up the case in 1817; Hastings, a naval lieutenant and storekeeper, could not afford to pursue it.
Complete Peerage has the usual paragraph on the peer, largely his naval career; it also explains the peerage claim in a few sentences. (For his reluctance to go to the West Indies, which led to shore duty, see DNB.)
The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography has an article, which includes Hastings' arrest by the local authorities while in charge of a press gang; his distant cousin Lord Moira posted bail. After his peerage, he was promoted to command of a ship, and was appointed Governor of Dominica in 1822; resigned 1824.
The 19th-century DNB article is here; it contains much of the substance of ODNB, but not all.
There is an obituary in the United Services Magazine, and an article in Gentleman's Magazine of 1847.
Sources on his governorship should be findable by searching: Google Scholar has several; the article by Boromé notes that he asked to be transferred "anywhere in the world" rather than deal with the Dominican assembly. (This is the small island near Guadaloupe, not the Dominican Republic.)
Google Books provides links to several minor administrative reforms.
There are books by Patrick L. Baker and Lennox Honychurch on the history of the island. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 16:37, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've started an article here, but haven't added anything on the claim to the earldom yet. Opera hat (talk) 13:50, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Huntington or Huntingdon?[edit]

I'm confused, I've seen both been referred but which one is correct? --Vaati the Wind Demon (talk) 01:46, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tosti and Siward[edit]

Weren't both Tosti and Siward earls of Huntingdon in pre-conquest England? Greenshed (talk) 23:10, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

First established[edit]

The earldom was first established by Canute for his nephew Beorn Ulfsson/Estrithsson. After Beorns death it was given to earl Siward of Northumbria. It was felt his eldest son Osbjorn would acquire Norhumbria with his youngest son Waltheof being the third earl of Huntingdon in the first ascension. Lowell C Armstrong (talk) 11:48, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]