Talk:Canadians of Japanese ancestry

Sorry, I meant "advise of not correct" - adno is an old airline acronym, the phrase should read of the islands of Honshu and Kyushu? I just realised this doesn't appear anywhere in any dictionaries. Strange that, because when I was in airlines, it was airline usage. Dieter Simon 23:54, 13 May 2004 (UTC)

I'm not sure whether this should be in Category:Canadian people, since I think that category is intended for individual Canadians. The same goes for Chinese Canadian. Any arguments either way? --Saforrest 05:13, Sep 2, 2004 (UTC)

Ryan O'Marra

This is a tricky one, I think. Did his being born in Japan confer Japanese citizenship, as being born in Canada would confer Canadian citizenship? Both his parents are Irish-Canadian....but is he officially Japanese-Canadian, which is to say, a Japanese-ethnic-inheritance Canadian? Does being born in Japan and having Japanese citizenship make one Japanese in the sense that "Japanese Canadian" is meant here? In Canadian multicultural terms it does, I'd gather, since being born in Canada means you're "ethnically Canadian" no matter what else you also are; but what's the Japanese viewpoint on this (I don't mean the Japanese-Canadian viewpoint so much)?Skookum1 03:07, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Prominent Japanese Canadians

what is the criteria for this? achievement in their respective field? public notoriety? There are an awful lot of Japanese Canadians with a wealth of achievements out there. For example, nominees or recipients of the Order of Canada (or their provinces), the first Japanese Canadians lawyers, people prominent in the media, etc... I'm just wondering what the criteria is. --nobuyuki 220.12.252.13 16:03, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

that's a very good point and applies to all ethnic group articles, or groups of any kind; what's to define "prominent"?? Typically notability is the Wiki criteria, and notability doesn't necessarly have to do with fame, as "prominence" does. Among the prominent obviously David Suzuki and Joy Kogawa and a few others (not as prominent, I suppose, or I'd remember them right off the bat...). Notability would include more obscure but significant people such as (if you'll forgive me) whatsisname that was the first Japanese here, the one the mountain up the coast is named for, and others like Masajiro Miyazaki who have a historically or socially signficant role of some kind. Prominence and notablity aren't the same thing; it might help simply to rename the section in question with "notable" instead of "prominent".Skookum1 (talk) 21:32, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Japanese Canadian vs Cdn of Japanese descent

Just commenting on the section change, and I haven't looked to see who's listed. This issue has come up on a merge discussion or is it a cat merge discussion about Canadian of English descent and English Canadian, although there the context is blurred because of the non-ethnic associations of English Canadian. But there's Irish Canadian/Canadians or Irish descent, Metis people/people of Metis descent etc (in categories anyway). Still not sure why but it would seem that someone that could/would be labelled Japanese Canadian is someone who identifies that way, e.g. David Suzuki, Joy Kogawa, and also including guys like that hockey player with the Irish name who plays Tsukuba (or Japan?) etc. But then there's somebody who's just" got a Japanese ancestor but otherwise identifies as a Canadian, or another "hyphenated Canadian". So maybe in the case of the hockey player, "japanese Canadian" and "CAnadians of Irish descent" (since he still has his p-port, otherwise he's, um, "Japanese of Irish descent". It's all very confusing, this hyphenation/descent business. And I a Norwegian Canadian, or a Canadian of Noregian, Irish, French and English descent? Or am I "just" a Canadian?Skookum1 17:43, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

--I think it really depends on how the individual chooses to identify them self. For example, David Suzuki may choose to be a Canadian of Japanese Descent... however if you listen to his radio interviews from the 70s, he may have reasons for choosing certain "titles". In the end, I think it comes down to personal choice... There is certainly a lot of disparity between post-war issei and nissei compared the pre-war immigrant nikkei communities and these different groups may very well identify themselves differently. nobuyuki 220.12.252.13 17:26, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Would you guys mind discussing this instead of unilaterally moving and redirecting? At very least, please read Wikipedia:Requested moves so you know how to do it properly, and avoid losing talk pages, etc. Thanks. - TheMightyQuill 02:52, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

In the main article's edit history: The reference to Japanese nationality law is mistaken - Japan allows most Nikkeijin to RESUME Japanese nationality. See Nikkeijin article.) - May 15, 2008. So the Japanese nationality law allows all Canadians of Japanese ancestry to claim dual-nationality with Japan? It's not widely popular nor was easy for many 2nd and 3rd generation Japanese-Canadians to ever adopted Japanese citizenship in addition to Canadian citizenship they are born with. Can this issue be clarified or better explained on the "Nikkejin" law? + 71.102.10.169 (talk) 20:30, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Southern Alberta

--Hi. I'm Nissei Japanese and from Southern Alberta. I believe that there is a significant Japanese population in the Southern Alberta region from the War internment and from farm immigration in the 1970s. I'm not sure if this population is significant enough to be mentioned, but I believe just from my experience of being Japanese, to be significant. Any thoughts? -Takuwan_199 14:23, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

New articles?

I've created two related stub-articles to accompany the one article which already exists about the Issei in the United States. These new article-stubs are Nisei and Sansei.

From my point of view, these two new generational articles will benefit from working with the bi-national range of books and scholarly articles which focus on Japanese-American communities and Canadian-American communities.

In due course, I have no doubt that it will make sense to separate these articles along national lines in 2009, but I would propose construing these subjects in terms of an unconventional non-national perspective for the next few months. At present, Issei is entirely US-focused, and I will work towards to diversifying its focus during the coming week.

At some convenient point in 2009, I would propose renaming these articles in the following manner:

• Issei becomes→ Issei Japanese Canadians + Issei Japanese Americans
• Nisei becomes→ Nisei Japanese Canadians + Nisei Japanese Americans
• Sansei becomes→ Sansei Japanese Canadians + Sansei Japanese Americans

In the meantime, any work done by whoever chooses to contribute will help establish a broader and possibly foundation than separate development would have produced ... or, at least, that's my tenative, open-ended plan ...?

I wonder if this non-standard proposal might provoke comments? Objections? Questions? --Tenmei (talk) 21:52, 16 September 2008 (UTC)