Talk:Fritz Julius Kuhn

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Is Fritz Kuhn Jewish? He has a Hebrew name but, was the leader of American Nazi's...

Kuhn is German. Cohen is Hebrew. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.94.186.41 (talk) 09:08, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

shouldn't this be titled "Fritz Kuhn" instead of "Fritz Kuhn (Nazi)"

shouldn't this be titled "Fritz Kuhn" instead of "Fritz Kuhn (Nazi)"?

It is Fritz Kuhn (Nazi), because in today Germany a green politican and MP is also named Fritz Kuhn. Kuhn is German surname. Cohn or Cohen would be jewish.

The historical source of Kuhn could be Cohn —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.164.244.41 (talk) 09:37, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Wrong. "Kühn" is a German word meaning "bold." "Cohn" is a Hebrew word meaning "priestly."Lestrade (talk) 22:58, 14 March 2010 (UTC)Lestrade

Picture

There should be a picture that clearly shows which person is him. Or at least show how many people from the right or left is him. I have no idea from the picture which guy is him. Contralya 18:53, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

I have a better picture of him. It is a shot of Times Square on New Years' Eve and Fritz is in the center of the crowd.Lestrade (talk) 22:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)Lestrade

Re: Isadore Greenbaum

I tagged this sentence because it's not clear whether this refers to the (relatively) well-known incident of a protester being beaten by the Fascist security at the 1939 rally. Or is this passage even important enough to include? (Kuhn is a unpleasant enough character on his own terms; no need to add details of negligible importance.) -- llywrch (talk) 15:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

The American Fuhrer and meeting with Adolf Hitler

I cannot be exactly sure of which one is historically correct, but, the article about the German American Bund states that Kuhn never actually met Hitler, and that he self-declared himself as the "American Fuhrer".

Madison Square Garden Bund Rally

It says: Most shocking to American sensibilities was the outbreak of violence between protesters and Bund storm troopers. During his speech, a protester rushed the stage and had to be hauled off by security.

"Most shocking to American sensibilities" is an unsupported attribution, and seems suspicious considering that... according to this film clip description, , there were protesters outside holding signs and being pushed by police. There is no other mention of violence from protesters. The man who rushes the stage attempts to attack Kuhn. The film clip narrator does not refer to him as a protester or as being affiliated with the protesters outside. The man is then brought down and beaten by several Bund members, as is shown in this footage, Bund members were then pulled off of the man by police. The narrator of the film clip claimed that the man was carrying a pistol, but this is not affirmed by the youtube clip.

Tgrgy1107 (talk) 10:27, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

<"22,000 Nazis Hold Rally in Garden; Police Check Foes", The New York Times, February 21, 1939, page 1>== Madison Square Garden Rally - Monday, February 20, 1939 ==

    According to The New York Times article on the rally in the February 21, 1939 paper, there was no violence between the Bund and protesters.  A "record" deployment of 1,700 police was almost entirely successful.  The article says, "Potentially the most serious situation arose when the Bund followers began to stream out the doors when the meeting closed at 11:15.  As they passed through the police lines at Fifty-second Street some of the more violent anti-Nazis in the crowd began assaults on individuals.  Policemen quickly broke up those fights and by 12 o'clock Eighth Avenue was as quiet as it usually is at that hour on a midweek midnight."

    The article says that there were 13 arrests on minor charges, and eight people treated on-site for injuries, including four police.  A man named Peter Saunders who is described as "a Negro" was charged with disorderly conduct and cruelty to animals when his effort to break through police lines with about 500 others failed.  Mr. Saunders struck policeman Harold Lee in the jaw and grabbed the bridle of a horse, bruising its mouth.  Another protester named George Mason, skin color not identified, grabbed a policemen, then while running away, ran into a restaurant at 756 Eighth Avenue and smashed a plate-glass window.

    The article says about the man who went on-stage while Fritz Kuhn was speaking, "As Mr. Kuhn neared the end of his speech a young man in a blue suit made a single-handed attempt to scale the platform.  A dozen gray-shirted Bund members grabbed him as he reached the rostrum and threw him to the floor.  Several policemen took charge and carried  him struggling through an opening directly behind the stage.  His trousers were torn off in the process.  The man was taken to the West Forty-seventh Street station, where he gave his name as Isadore Greenbaum and his address as 93 Ten Eyck Walk, Brooklyn.  He was booked on a charge of disorderly conduct."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.7.48.33 (talk) 14:14, 18 October 2015 (UTC) 

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I noticed a "citation needed" note about Khun being anti-semitic. This speech he gave should suffice: https://anightatthegarden.com/?fbclid=IwAR1SdzvXCip3MmgDAPXvBaIv3Xspe3IOXSpQwS4GtSbGAI4ETFF5Vj4jZUM DrMattB (talk) 16:36, 20 February 2019 (UTC)