Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bellakar

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The result of the debate was - no consensus - SimonP 03:11, Mar 31, 2005 (UTC)

Bellakar

This stub reads as follows: Bellakar is a fictional location from J. R. R. Tolkien's Middle-earth. It is a large area south of Umbar, an ally of Gondor. Does this stub illustrate enough notability for even a redirect? How cheap are they, exactly? --GRider\^talk 22:27, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• Don't abuse VFD to make a point. Create something like Wikipedia:WikiProject Middle-earth as a child of Wikipedia:WikiProject Fictional Series if you wish to help remove the number of Middle-earth articles here in a productive way. Jordi·✆ 23:19, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• Delete. Middle-Earth-cruft. Probable fabrication. --Carnildo 00:11, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• WP:POINT. See also: Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Google test. —Korath (Talk) 02:03, Mar 19, 2005 (UTC)
• Merge or keep. Redirects are essentially free. Kappa 02:04, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• This nomination is not correctly formed. Please read the instructions. Chris 02:42, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Strong delete. nn, less than 10 google hits. ComCat 02:58, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Delete not notable on its own... barely a mention in the books... nuke it  ALKIVAR™ 03:26, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Merge as minor concept. And people who nominate this should already know the answer from precedent, and be bold and just merge it rather than putting it on VfD. Radiant_* 09:36, Mar 19, 2005 (UTC)
• Merge. Such geographical concepts mentioned in passing cannot be expanded on (since the original author only wrote a short description, and will not expand on it on account of the dead not being the most prolific of authors). But since it's Tolkein, merging them all into a decent length article is warranted. Average Earthman 12:18, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Ignore nomination as made made bad faith, otherwise keep or merge - SimonP 15:33, Mar 19, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, and expand. Megan1967 02:21, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Expand how? The article contains more information on this location than any Tolkein work I am aware of.

• Comment: Upon further research, I believe that the article is either a fabrication or only appears in fan works. No mention of the location is made in the Encyclopedia of Arda, the most complete online Tolkein reference, and a Google search only shows hits for a Middle-Earth role-playing game. --Carnildo 06:49, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • The Encyclopedia of Arda excludes the entire History of Middle-earth series of books for whatever reason, from where this reference comes. Jordi·✆ 12:03, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Ignore. WP:POINT. Jayjg ^(talk) 19:57, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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