Talk:Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home

Swearing in the future?

This part of the Trivia makes no sense. How many times during the original series did we hear "dammit" come out of Bones' mouth? I call that a swear. Swearing is clearly alive and well in the 23rd century. I'm thinking of deleting that paragraph from the trivia. (Even though the "double dumb ass on YOU!" line was hilarious) -Kasreyn 05:50, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

The only time anyone swore in the original series was Kirk's "Let's get the hell out of here" in "City on the Edge of Forever". McCoy's well-known "Dammit, Jim" didn't come into existence until the feature films.

I think that swearing is probably more the scatalogical and vulgar swearing of today, not such harsh epithets as hell and damnit WookMuff 05:13, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

"The film marks the first use of the word 'ass' in a Star Trek production." True, but isn't it more significant that the film marks the first use of the word shit in a Star Trek production? While Kirk and Spock are riding in Gillian Taylor's truck, she wants to know if they are with the military and if perhaps they want to teach aquatic mammals to "retrieve torpedoes or some dipshit stuff like that?" and Kirk replies, "No, ma'am, no dipshit." As far as I know, shit was not uttered in a Star Trek production again until Star Trek Generations, when Data, seeing the Enterprise-D's saucer section about to hit the atmosphere of Veridian III, says, "Oh, shit." I don't recall ass being used again until the premier episode of Enterprise ("Broken Bow"), when Captain Archer, fed up with T'Pol's prattling on about how humans can't control their emotions, asks her rhetorically if she has any idea how much he'd "like to knock [her] on [her] ass." User:24.168.150.118 00:52, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

• One thing Star Trek has always done is to inspire intellectual discourse. Like dis. Wahkeenah 01:05, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Um, just to point out, I think this needs to be removed. I distinctly remember both Kirk and Scotty calling Harry Mudd a jackass in "Mudd's Women". Who came up with this anyway? I say we either edit it to say that it is the first time the word is said in a movie or get rid of it altogether. - Defunctzombie 01:58, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
    • A jackass is a donkey, and maybe terms like "smartass" and "dumbass" have more to do with donkeys than with anatomy. In any case, it's kind of silly. Now, when Kirk told his crew in The City on the Edge of Forever, "Let's get the hell out of here!" that was something, by mid-1960s TV standards. Wahkeenah 02:19, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the animal is an ass- the male is a 'jack', the female is a 'jenny'. ("Donkey' is a relatively late invention and comes from 'dun', referring to the animal's color.) The anatomical word is unrelated to the animal; it's an American corruption of the British 'arse'. Terms like "you're an ass" refer to the animal's reputation for stubborness and have no origin in anatomy. 'Asshole' as an insult is probably a convergent term, not of direct origin. CFLeon 06:17, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

"Sounds like the goddamned Spanish Inquisition to me." -- McCoy to Kirk in the hospital elevator, on their way to save Chekov. -Radioflux 23:45, 18 May 2007 (UTC) - I just saw a Spanish-dubbed version of this film. Curiously (and disturbingly), the phrase "Spanish Inquisition" was changed to "African witchcraft" (brujería africana). Hmmm. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.66.220.40 (talk) 03:08, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

I find all this fuss over the question of swearing more than a bit ridiculous. All that was said about swearing was that Spock noted that Kirk's use of "colorful metaphors" had INCREASED. It was never stated or even implied that there was no swearing in the future or that Kirk himself never swore. It was NOTHING MORE THAN A JOKE, a dig at 20th century culture, that people swore so much and so often that Kirk believed he wouldn't be listened to unless his own speech reflected that of the times. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.131.128.243 (talk) 19:38, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Resources to use

British Film Institute

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• WORLEY, Alec: Top Travel Tips for Time Tourists #5, StarBurst (0955-114X) v.Spec. n.68, March 2005, p.58-59, English, illus, Part of a whole issue on time travel, this article looks at STAR TREK IV: THE VOYAGE HOME.
• [ME]: RWD, Empire n.170, August 2003, p.150, English, illus
• BASSOM, David: STAR TREK IV: 'Beam me up, Scotty!' StarBurst (0955-114X) v.Spec. n.58, July 2003, p.78-85, English, illus, Actors James Doohan and Walter Koenig each look back at the making of STAR TREK IV: THE VOYAGE HOME.
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• NAZZARO, Joe: Harve Bennett, StarBurst (0955-114X) v.Spec. n.No20, July 1994, p.17-22, English, illus, Interview with Harve Bennett, writer/producer, and the guiding hand behind the second, third, fourth and fifth STAR TREK films.
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• Voyage home, StarBurst (0955-114X) n.105, May 1987, p.8-12, English, illus
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• Cinefex n.29, February 1987, p.5-31, English, Article on the production of the special effects for the film.
• American Cinematographer (0002-7928) v.67 n.12, December 1986, p.42-48, English, Leonard Nimoy talks about the making of the film.
• American Cinematographer (0002-7928) v.67 n.12, December 1986, p.50-56, English, Don Peterman talks about his cinematography work.
• American Cinematographer (0002-7928) v.67 n.12, December 1986, p.57-60, English, Jack Cooperman talks about his work on the underwater sequences.
• American Cinematographer (0002-7928) v.67 n.12, December 1986, p.62-70; 72,74, English, Visual effects supervisor Ken Ralston, talks about the special effects on the film.
• Variety (0042-2738), 19 November 1986, p.16, English
• Hollywood Reporter (0018-3660) v.294 n.41, 17 November 1986, p.3,18, English
• Hollywood Reporter (0018-3660) v.291 n.21, April 1986, p.12, English, Credits.
• Screen International (0307-4617) n.538, 08 March 1986, p.19, English, Credits.
• Hollywood Reporter (0018-3660) v.291 n.1, 04 March 1986, p.16, English, Credits.
• Screen International (0307-4617) n.483, 09 February 1985, p.6, English, Note.

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• Magid, Ron. "Star Trek IV: the Voyage Home": matte painting. Cinefantastique 17 n3/4 (1987): 43.
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• Gire, Dan. Why "Star Trek IV" leaves Lt. Savik stranded on Vulcan. Cinefantastique 17 n1 (1987): 4.
• Magid, Ron. "Star Trek IV: the Voyage Home": miniature effects. Cinefantastique 17 n3/4 (1987): 46.
• Shay, Jody Duncan. Humpback to the future. Cinefex n29 Feb (1987): 4-31.
• Larson, Randall D. New music for Starfleet. Cinefantastique 17 n3/4 (1987): 30+ [3p].
• Lehti, Steven J. "Star Trek IV"/Leonard Rosenman. Soundtrack!: the Collector�s Quarterly 6 Mar (1987): 19.
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• Cunliffe, S. Howl! New Statesman 113 Apr 17 (1987): 23.
• Frumkes, R. "Star Trek IV". Films in Review 38 Feb (1987): 102-3.
• Hutchinson, T. "The Voyage Home: Star Trek IV". Photoplay Movies & Video 38 May (1987): 15.
• Johns, I. "Star Trek IV: the Voyage Home". Films and Filming n391 Apr (1987): 43-4.
• Newman, K. "The Voyage Home: Star Trek IV". Monthly Film Bulletin 54 Apr (1987): 124-5.
• Summers, J. "Star Trek IV: the Voyage Home". Boxoffice 123 Jan (1987): after p38 [pR1-2].
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• Granger, R. "Star Trek IV: the Voyage Home". The Film Journal 89 Dec (1986): 40.
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• Corliss, R. Cinema: sea shepherd from outer space. Time 128 Dec 8 (1986): 99.
• Galbraith, J. "Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home". Variety 325 Nov 19 (1986): 16.
• Ansen, D. The arts: movies: trekking back to the future. Newsweek 108 Dec 1 (1986): 89.
• McDonagh, M. Nimoy back behind the camera as "Star Trek" journeys to 1986. The Film Journal 89 Dec (1986): 8+ [2p].
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• Lee, Nora. The fourth "Trek": Leonard Nimoy recollects. American Cinematographer 67 Dec (1986): 42-8.
• Edelstein, D. Film: black gold. The Village Voice 31 Dec 9 (1986): 72+ [2p].
• others. and Charles Leerhsen. The arts: "Star Trek's" nine lives. Newsweek 108 Dec 22 (1986): 66-71.
• Selley, April and April Selley. "I have been, and ever shall be your friend": "Star Trek", "The Deerslayer" and the American romance. Journal of Popular Culture 20 n1 (1986): 89-104.
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• Turner, George. The fourth "Trek": Don Peterman on earth. American Cinematographer 67 Dec (1986): 50-56.
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• Cohn, Lawrence L. Par backs Nimoy, "Trek" to hilt; talks going re possible part IV. Variety 315 Jun 6 (1984): 5+ [2p].
• Simak, Steven. James Horner on scoring "Star Trek III: the Search for Spock". Cinemascore: the Film Music Journal n13/14 Winter/Summer (1984): 16-17.
• Anderson, Kay. "Star Trek III: the Search for Spock". Cinefantastique 14 n4/5 n/a (1984): 8-9.
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