Talk:Morristown Line

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Route Guide[edit]

The route guide should be cleaned up, and portions probably moved into their own articles on various stations. --SPUI 23:56, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

This is true, mainly with stations such as Dover and Summit which have seen massive upgrades since 1983 and Newark Broad Street which is being rebuilt. --Ken S. 17:19, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
The Route guide originally looked like it was written by a railfan. Thats great if this was a railfan website. I've changed all the "You pass" to "The line passes". Basically I changed the section so it wasn't written to a 'you'. 3D jonny 00:15, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I did a quick pass through the route guide and updated it with information and a few minor corrections jis (talk) 21:28, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Freight Trains[edit]

Has anyone heard anything about Freight now running on this line? I have heard that folks are upset about it in Summit and there is growing concern in Madison. November 13, 2005

It has to do with the Rahway Valley and Lackawanna Cutoff restoration projects. Other than that, Norfolk Southern operates local freight service along the Morristown, Montclair-Boonton, and Gladstone Lines and Morristown & Erie moves its freight along the line. --172.172.221.133 17:13, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ampere Station[edit]

The Ampere Station was located in East Orange and was the next stop after and before Roseville Avenue. Should this station be added with the other abandoned stations in the list. Misterrick 00:27, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Ampere was on the Bay Street-Newark section of the Montclair-Boonton Line. I have removed it from the list after it was added as per the post below. The abandoned station between East Orange and Roseville Avenue is Grove Street. Both Grove Street & Ampere were abandoned in 1991. Ken S. 13:58, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(person who wrote this was wrong) Tlantanu (talk) 17:22, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me your wrong, the Ampere Station was not on the Montclair Branch it was in East Orange and ran on the Morristown line from Morristown, Newark Broad Street and Hoboken Terminal. I will be reinstating it and deleting it from the Montclair-Boonton line article. Just as a point of reference I have been riding these trains since I was five years old and when it was the old Erie Lackawanna service. 151.198.167.183 07:21, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As per a 1980 M&E timetable and This map;
Morristown Line
East Orange
Grove Street
Newark Broad Street
Montclair Branch
Watsessing Avenue
Ampere
Newark Broad Street

Ken S. 01:20, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Edits on May 8, 2007[edit]

I made several changes and edits/add-ons, First I added the Orange and West Orange Jitney to the connections for the Orange and South Orange stations, second I removed the paragraph under the Short Hills station where it says Springfield Jitney I removed "an NJT-owned community bus service" the Jitneys are not owned by NJT but instead are actually owned by the Township in which they service, i.e. Springfield, Orange, West Orange etc... and run by a financial grant from New Jersey Transit and the New Jersey Department of Transportation, Here in West Orange they use a Jitney bus that the township purchased but for the majority of time they use the Senior Citizens Department buses and I also added Ampere Station which is a former NJ Transit station in East Orange that is now abandoned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.160.106.24 (talk) 21:05, 8 May 2007(UTC)

New Providence[edit]

Two other stations were discontinued about 1906. Wyoming was on the east side of Wyoming Avenue, between Maplewood and Millburn, and Huntly was a block east of Springfield Avenue, between Short Hills and Summit. Millburn was re-sited about 0.2 miles east from its old location west of Old Short Hills Road. Taber books. Just now I'm not up to changing the diagram and finding the page references. JoeBrennan (talk) 18:27, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. It was on the pre-1905 alignment at New Providence Avenue in Summit. It was also called Elkwood. Reference is Taber's Delaware, Lackawanna & Western Railroad" 3-volume work.JoeBrennan (talk) 18:06, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There's an entry between Chatham and Summit for an abandoned New Providence station (not the one on the Gladstone branch). Is there a source for this? Radiocolin (talk) 23:51, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If there was one it would have disappeared by 1954. There is no such stop mentioned on the 1954 DL&W timetable for medium and long-distance service: http://viewoftheblue.com/photography/timetables/DLW042554.pdf Dogru144 (talk) 15:23, 21 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Electrification[edit]

There are two places where the power turns on and off because of changes in electrification. One is outside of Newark (I assume that is the Kearny connection) and the second is outside South Orange, on the way to Maplewood. I can find plenty of information about Kearny but not about the second power change. It's very distinct if you're traveling on the M&E because the lights all go out. Why does that happen at this particular place but not others? Liz Read! Talk! 15:32, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Name of route[edit]

At the present time (see signature) N J Transit issues one timetable called "Morris & Essex" for the combined Morristown and Gladstone services. On the map they are shown with different shades of green and the names Morristown Line and Gladstone Line, each with its own symbol, and as parallel green lines from Summit east. On the departure boards in New York Penn Station, in the column under "Line", they are called "Morristown" and "Gladstone Branch". I am inclined to use "Morris & Essex" as the name, based on the timetable, historical reasons, and simply a desire to have one name. But NJT is in such disarray about nomenclature that I am wary of proposing a change to the article title! JoeBrennan (talk) 18:19, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Frequent service?[edit]

From early days of electrification in the 1930s until the Midtown Direct service sixty years later, the base service from Hoboken was every 30 minutes as far as Morristown, with alternate trains continuing to Dover. By comparison the current service has diminished to where I would not consider it "frequent". JoeBrennan (talk) 18:34, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Missing references[edit]

There are citations to "Douglass" and "Platt" which do not correspond to entries in the bibliography. Can anyone shed light on these? Thanks, Mackensen (talk) 15:35, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]