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January 5: Twelfth Night (Western Christianity)

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New pages[edit]

Please, when you create a new page, don't use the "minor edit" option. Others want to see new pages, no matter how small!  :-) --LMS

Could somebody please check the spelling for "Jeane" Dixon. Does it nothave a double "n"?

It doesn't. Lkjhgfdsa 0 (talk) 10:00, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Twelfth Night query[edit]

Here is the debate from Twelfth night discussion page

Stupid question I know but is it the 5th or the 6th? In my culture i.e. that of a Nothern Britain (christian/agnostic), its the 6th, but please can we have some confirmation? Medscin 19:19, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

It's the 5th, which is the 12th day counting from Christmas, with Christmas as the first day. The Epiphany has its own Octave, and the day after that Octave begins a new season liturgy-wise (though Christmas as a part of the larger liturgical cycle and as a "spiritual season" doesn't end until Candlemas). This page explains things: http://www.fisheaters DOT com/customschristmas1.html (and these pages explain Twelfth Night and the Epiphany: http://www.fisheaters DOT com/epiphanyeve.html and http://www.fisheaters DOT com/customschristmas8.html ) TigerLille 21:28, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

I maintain (as I have maintained at the Twelve Days of Christmas discussion) that the Twelve Days are Dec 26 - Jan 6 inclusive and that Twelfth Night is January 6 and not the 5th, and should thus be removed from the link on January 5 which currently and confusingly says "The eleventh day of Christmas in Western Christianity, and the Twelfth Night of Christmas in Western Christianity", However, I will not do so as I believe some discussion is required first. As I see it, the solution depends on whether Twelfth Night celebrations were made on January 5th or 6th, and I note that celebrations were held on both Twelfth-Night Eve (Jan 5) and Twelfth Night (Jan 6), but the latter were the main ones. The best sources I know to quote are Sir James Frazer, William Hone and Robert Chambers, all expert 19th-century British folklorists. Frazer says "The last of the mystic twelve days is Epiphany or Twelfth Night", and Epiphany is January 6 -- I know some will say it began on the Eve but that was called Twelfth-Night Eve or Epiphany Eve and had different festivities. Hone says the Twelfth Night celebrations were on the night of January 6 (and the lesser ones on January 5 were called Twelfth-Night Eve) and Chambers also asserts that although there were some apparently minor "rustic" festivals in England on January 5 (Twelfth-Night Eve), the main Twelfth Night festivities were on the next night, ie, the night of Twelfth Day (January 6). I suggest that unless someone betters these sources within a reasonable amount of time, any Wikipedian should make the changes required on the various pages. With respect, TigerLille, I think fisheaters's statement "The Eve of the Feast of the Epiphany is the twelfth day of Christmas" is not correct, based on the three prominent folklorists I refer to above. Alpheus 01:23, 5 January 2006 (UTC) And I maintain that it's not "the 26th through the 6th", it's "the evening of the 25th through and/or including the evening of the 6th". Wahkeenah 01:54, 5 January 2006 (UTC) It's the fifth. D. Wo. 05:25, 5 January 2006 (UTC) What, exactly, is the 5th??? Wahkeenah 05:28, 5 January 2006 (UTC) Not to start a US/UK arguement, I think the American's "celebrate" twelfth night on the 5/1 hence the reasons its stated as this, Wikipedia AFAIK an American based website, while us Brits "celebrate" it on the 6/1, though thats just a guess, the Collins Dictionary states it as being "evening of the 6th Jan.: also of 5th Jan

and PS, I really didn't want to start a huge arguement, sorry! Medscin 17:44, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

360 days left?[edit]

If it's the fifth, shouldnt there be 356 days left? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.205.102.205 (talk)

Run your math again. There are 365, not 361, days in a normal year. Simplebutpowerful 15:30, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A link between this topic and one of.....[edit]

Guru Gobind Singh needs clarification, due to the published diary book by Letts--222.64.221.26 (talk) 12:55, 9 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please provide detailed information and an explanation of what you are requesting. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 12:56, 9 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here it is Talk:Guru Gobind Singh#The birthday clarification of the topic is required..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.64.221.26 (talk) 12:59, 9 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Adding a See Also section on this article is not acceptable without discussion. The sections of the date articles are static and any change to the sections must be decided by consensus at WT:DAYS. Please do not add the new section again without first establishing consensus for the new section. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 13:03, 9 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mismatching, inaccurate dates[edit]

The FM broadcasting article mentions that the demonstration of the FM broadcast in front of the FCC took place at January 5, 1940. This piece of information, which has also been copied to the January 5 calendar page and quoted by other sites, seems to be inaccurate as

(a) it doesn't cite any source

(b) it conflicts with the biography of Edwin_Howard_Armstrong, where this event is mentioned to have happened on the July 17, 1936, including more details AND citation (to which unfortunately I have no access).

(c) instead, in many sites it is mentioned that what actually happened at January 4-5 1940, was a successful testing of signal being multiply relayed from Yonkers to Boston according newspaper and magazine articles

If there is no objection, I would take the initiative to change this date in both sites and add the other date --Radiobuzzer (talk) 15:36, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am loathe to remove if it could revert[edit]

Perry Fenwick, born 1962, is also listed on the May 29 page (current article date).

Cleanup[edit]

Continuing cleanup of births and deaths. See Project talk pages for many discussions. Deb (talk) 15:38, 25 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Warmest day in the Antarctic Circle[edit]

I noticed this being an event on January 5:

1974 – The warmest reliably measured temperature within the Antarctic Circle, of +59 °F (+15 °C), is recorded at Vanda Station.[26]

Maybe that was a record for a while but there have been several higher temperatures since then ([1], [2]). What do we do with this one - strike it off the list entirely, or just say it was considered a high temperature for a while? The article I found for 2020 said the new high was 18.3°C (64.9°F). This might be a tough record to keep up with if we want to keep it on this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spacefem (talkcontribs) 17:19, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The recapture of El chapo's son[edit]

On Jan 5 of this year Mexican security forces recaptured El chapo's son Usertlax (talk) 17:24, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Who? Deb (talk) 18:40, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]