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A fact from David and Lisa appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 11 February 2005. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the film David and Lisa, shot in black-and-white for just $183,000, was nominated for the 1962 Academy Award for Directing?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2005/February.

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Dissociative identity disorder[edit]

Please note that your own link to the definition of schizophrenia points out that it is often confused with multiple personality disorder. In your description of the character "Lisa", you appear to be describing the latter. Please correct your copy. Accuracy is very important. There is a great deal of misunderstanding about mental illness as it is. Please don't add to the confusion and misinformation that already exists. For further information, organizations such as local mental health associations or the National Alliance for the Mentally Ill (NAMI) would be good resources.

I saw the film a long time ago. Now I'm curious to see it again and see what I think of it.

My knowledge about mental illness is almost null, so you're probably right, but I initially used "schizophrenic" because that's what they call her in the film. Tropsy 16:21, Feb 11, 2005 (GMT+1)

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Removal of "needs infobox" tag[edit]

This article has had its infobox tag removed by a cleanup using AWB. Any concerns please leave me a message at my talk page. RWardy 19:39, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rentals?[edit]

How could a 1962 movie have made $1MM in rentals in its first week? Anchoress 19:45, 11 September 2007 (UTC) [new person writing] I second this... the movie probably was a financial success. Maybe it made the $1M in the first week, but that would be at the box office. The first home video machines weren't available until the 1970s, and video rentals didn't become much of a money maker until the 1980s. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.134.115.228 (talk) 22:30, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fascinating period piece[edit]

I was considering it for class, remembering the prestige it had. The photography is still beautiful, the music frightening. Da Silva has the great voice, Dullea is mannered but it works. Janet Margolin overacts but is still a NY boy's idea of beautiful, as Winona Ryder was later. Her brief poetic masturbation scene was so unlike anything anybody had ever dared put in an American film, one could barely believe what one had just seen. It was so far out, audience disbelief in what she was engaged in probably saved the scene from being cut. This film came out at a time when middle class people were first starting to see shrinks, though not openly, and there was great curiosity. Nobody should take it for a documentary about psychiatry, either then or now. Dr. Swinton solves problems by saying just the right question at the right time, and the insight instantly cures. That was the popular belief then. Far more significant is the way, in Kennedy era pre Vietnam 1962, the Fifties style parents already are being talked back to, even demonized. The oldest Baby Boomers, like myself, were in the senior year of high school and this suited us down to the ground. One can see the Sixties rebellions coming, and "communication," "freedom," and general mental health being used as a justification.Profhum (talk) 05:12, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ping-pong reverts[edit]

Are we batting these two versions back and forth for the sake of good writing — or as some kind of pissing contest? Because "his apparently caring mother" is not only unsupported POV, it's also pretty clunky writing. Why're we doing this? — HarringtonSmith (talk) 18:48, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What about the book?[edit]

I saw this movie when it came out, and my recollection it that the credits included something like 'based on "Lisa and David" by ...'

My research today shows that the author is Theodore Isaac Rubin. Shouldn't this original source be included in the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.45.200.48 (talk) 06:18, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The types of disorders[edit]

It occurs to me that if the film is mistaken in its identification of the disorders exemplified by the titular characters, it is original research on our part to correct it. That being said, we do not need to repeat the film's error either by calling either character "schizophrenic". I will therefore omit the specific identifications made by previous editors but leave the descriptions of the symptoms as they are. (The page does not get a lot of editorial traffic, so it seems pointless to wait for feedback.) ZarhanFastfire (talk) 05:07, 19 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

David Clemens and Alan Turing[edit]

Was the creation of the rare intelligent (although somewhat weird) personality of David Clemens inspired by the life and work of English computer-pioneer and mathematician Alan Turing? Both Keir Dullea (David Clemens) and Alan Turing could have been brothers (same looks), and above all there was this ingenious invention from David called the Radio-Controlled Clock (I have one of these radio-controlled clocks hanging on the wall). Was the real invention of the radio-controlled clock inspired by Frank Perry's David and Lisa? Or vice versa? Who was the real inventor of the radio-controlled clock? DannyJ.Caes (talk) 16:52, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

David Clemens and Herr Otto Flick (Allo Allo!)[edit]

The cold and stiff appearances of David Clemens (seen during the first minutes of Perry's David and Lisa) remind me the odd behaviour of Herr Otto Flick (Richard Gibson) from the British sitcom Allo Allo!. DannyJ.Caes (talk) 16:52, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]