Talk:Eric Dolphy

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Stravinsky and Bartok[edit]

The second paragraph includes this line:

"his compositions and solos were often rooted in conventional (if highly abstracted) tonal bebop harmony and melodic lines that suggest the influences of modern classical composers Béla Bartók and Igor Stravinsky."

Why include comparisons to Bartok and Stravinsky? Was Dolphy known to be influenced by these composers? This statement needs a citation. If it's merely one editor's opinion, it should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:56A:F6E0:F900:A43A:13C6:7101:95B1 (talk) 05:10, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Density 21.5[edit]

It says he performed and 'recorded' Density 21.5. Where was it recorded?

I'm equally curious. Only found unspecified references similar to this article's (some of them probably are mirror sites), one website says he recorded another one of Varèse's Densities. Would really love to listen to this recording. ---Sluzzelin talk 03:04, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No recording is known to have surfaced, though an interesting story is that the composer Hale Smith took Dolphy to meet Varese where Dolphy performed "Density 21.5" for the composer. Varese was quite impressed, according to Smith. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.93.42.232 (talk) 03:04, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

This article has almost no references! It tells a good story. It just to be backed up. Life.temp (talk) 15:27, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah - the thing about Coltrane considering him his "only musical equal" seems a little unlikely, I thought Trane was much more modest than that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.57.45.91 (talk) 02:17, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dolphy's death is clearly a bit controversial. It would be helpful if the article specified which "documentary" cast doubt on the original French story. "..a later documentary"? Cite that source, please! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.162.145.150 (talk) 06:27, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Content[edit]

A little information in the article would be nice... :) Please see Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. --Brion

More work needed on his sideman work with Oliver Nelson, George Russell, Coltrane and Mingus.

Hello, I have just padded up the article with lots more information. I gathered some of it from random sources here and there such as liner notes but mostly the info is from Raymond Horricks' biography The Importance of Being Eric Dolphy and a tribute to Dolphy from the jazz issue of a magazine called Stop Smiling. Both sources have many fascinating anecdotes and quotes from many musicians associated with Dolphy. I can add more if need be (in fact, there are enough quotes by Dolphy about his musical philosophy and such and about Dolphy by other musicians to add an entire "Quotes" section). However, I do not know how to add in references so there are no citations but the information is accurate. If citations are absolutely necessary please do not delete the information; rather say so on this page and I will try my best to add in citations for all the information I added.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.93.42.232 (talkcontribs) 3:13 6 April (UTC)
Thank you for your contributions. Citations are necessary to verify the accuracy of the content. Since you are unfamiliar with formatting reference tags, I highly recommend using PROVEIT which makes it simple. Also, the quotes you referred to would better placed at the Eric Dolphy Wikiquote page, which could use more content, rather than in a "quotes" section in the article (per WP guidelines). Hope this is helpful. Again, thanks for your work to improve the article.--JayJasper (talk) 04:47, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Discography[edit]

It's quite a mess at the moment. I have started trying to bring it into line with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Discographies but there's quite abit of work to be done so may take some doing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cambial Yellowing (talkcontribs) 23:20, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]